Re: AT released DANOS code to Linux Foundation
The press release says Broadcom's Qumran AX silicon. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ip-infusion-announces-danos-vyatta-06099.html On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 5:59 AM Colton Conor wrote: > Robert, > > What ASICs are supported by DANOS? > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 7:52 PM Tim Jackson wrote: > >> Just curious what ASICs/platforms/NICs are supported? I didn't see any >> information about anything on the wiki. >> >> -- >> Tim >> >> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 7:31 PM Robert Bays wrote: >> >>> For the open source version we replaced our proprietary routing protocol >>> stack with FRR. >>> >>> Since the AT acquisition we have also added support for a few merchant >>> silicon platforms in a hybrid software/hardware forwarding plane. ONIE >>> images are available from the same link. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Robert. >>> >>> >>> On Nov 18, 2019, at 2:24 PM, Jared Geiger wrote: >>> >>> DANOS is using FRR in the opensource version at least. >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 1:15 PM Mike Hammett wrote: >>> >>>> Chances are, if there was a decision to be made, UBNT made the wrong >>>> choice. >>>> >>>> That said, I've heard a lot of good about ZebOS. *shrugs* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>> -- >>>> *From: *"Rubens Kuhl" >>>> *To: *"Nanog" >>>> *Sent: *Monday, November 18, 2019 3:10:39 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: AT released DANOS code to Linux Foundation >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 5:55 PM Brielle wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 11/18/2019 1:31 PM, Jared Geiger wrote: >>>>> > This past Friday, the code for DANOS was released as open source to >>>>> the >>>>> > Linux Foundation and published at https://github.com/danos >>>>> >>>>> This is pretty awesome news. >>>>> >>>>> From what I'm reading, it looks like the commercial support options >>>>> will be able to use ZebOS as the routing engine instead of quagga? >>>>> EdgeOS has been using it for a while, and was a huge step up in terms >>>>> of >>>>> stability and functionality. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Curiously, at the same time EdgeOS replaced Quagga with ZebOS I started >>>> reading more complaints and more people dropping UBNT altogether in the L3 >>>> world. >>>> So I wonder if it was a good decision or not... >>>> >>>> >>>> Rubens >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
Re: AT released DANOS code to Linux Foundation
Robert, What ASICs are supported by DANOS? On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 7:52 PM Tim Jackson wrote: > Just curious what ASICs/platforms/NICs are supported? I didn't see any > information about anything on the wiki. > > -- > Tim > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 7:31 PM Robert Bays wrote: > >> For the open source version we replaced our proprietary routing protocol >> stack with FRR. >> >> Since the AT acquisition we have also added support for a few merchant >> silicon platforms in a hybrid software/hardware forwarding plane. ONIE >> images are available from the same link. >> >> Cheers, >> Robert. >> >> >> On Nov 18, 2019, at 2:24 PM, Jared Geiger wrote: >> >> DANOS is using FRR in the opensource version at least. >> >> On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 1:15 PM Mike Hammett wrote: >> >>> Chances are, if there was a decision to be made, UBNT made the wrong >>> choice. >>> >>> That said, I've heard a lot of good about ZebOS. *shrugs* >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> -- >>> *From: *"Rubens Kuhl" >>> *To: *"Nanog" >>> *Sent: *Monday, November 18, 2019 3:10:39 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: AT released DANOS code to Linux Foundation >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 5:55 PM Brielle wrote: >>> >>>> On 11/18/2019 1:31 PM, Jared Geiger wrote: >>>> > This past Friday, the code for DANOS was released as open source to >>>> the >>>> > Linux Foundation and published at https://github.com/danos >>>> >>>> This is pretty awesome news. >>>> >>>> From what I'm reading, it looks like the commercial support options >>>> will be able to use ZebOS as the routing engine instead of quagga? >>>> EdgeOS has been using it for a while, and was a huge step up in terms >>>> of >>>> stability and functionality. >>>> >>>> >>> Curiously, at the same time EdgeOS replaced Quagga with ZebOS I started >>> reading more complaints and more people dropping UBNT altogether in the L3 >>> world. >>> So I wonder if it was a good decision or not... >>> >>> >>> Rubens >>> >>> >>> >>
Re: AT released DANOS code to Linux Foundation
Just curious what ASICs/platforms/NICs are supported? I didn't see any information about anything on the wiki. -- Tim On Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 7:31 PM Robert Bays wrote: > For the open source version we replaced our proprietary routing protocol > stack with FRR. > > Since the AT acquisition we have also added support for a few merchant > silicon platforms in a hybrid software/hardware forwarding plane. ONIE > images are available from the same link. > > Cheers, > Robert. > > > On Nov 18, 2019, at 2:24 PM, Jared Geiger wrote: > > DANOS is using FRR in the opensource version at least. > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 1:15 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > >> Chances are, if there was a decision to be made, UBNT made the wrong >> choice. >> >> That said, I've heard a lot of good about ZebOS. *shrugs* >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -- >> *From: *"Rubens Kuhl" >> *To: *"Nanog" >> *Sent: *Monday, November 18, 2019 3:10:39 PM >> *Subject: *Re: AT released DANOS code to Linux Foundation >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 5:55 PM Brielle wrote: >> >>> On 11/18/2019 1:31 PM, Jared Geiger wrote: >>> > This past Friday, the code for DANOS was released as open source to >>> the >>> > Linux Foundation and published at https://github.com/danos >>> >>> This is pretty awesome news. >>> >>> From what I'm reading, it looks like the commercial support options >>> will be able to use ZebOS as the routing engine instead of quagga? >>> EdgeOS has been using it for a while, and was a huge step up in terms of >>> stability and functionality. >>> >>> >> Curiously, at the same time EdgeOS replaced Quagga with ZebOS I started >> reading more complaints and more people dropping UBNT altogether in the L3 >> world. >> So I wonder if it was a good decision or not... >> >> >> Rubens >> >> >> >
Re: AT released DANOS code to Linux Foundation
For the open source version we replaced our proprietary routing protocol stack with FRR. Since the AT acquisition we have also added support for a few merchant silicon platforms in a hybrid software/hardware forwarding plane. ONIE images are available from the same link. Cheers, Robert. > On Nov 18, 2019, at 2:24 PM, Jared Geiger wrote: > > DANOS is using FRR in the opensource version at least. > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 1:15 PM Mike Hammett <mailto:na...@ics-il.net>> wrote: > Chances are, if there was a decision to be made, UBNT made the wrong choice. > > That said, I've heard a lot of good about ZebOS. *shrugs* > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > From: "Rubens Kuhl" mailto:rube...@gmail.com>> > To: "Nanog" mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 3:10:39 PM > Subject: Re: AT released DANOS code to Linux Foundation > > > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 5:55 PM Brielle <mailto:br...@2mbit.com>> wrote: > On 11/18/2019 1:31 PM, Jared Geiger wrote: > > This past Friday, the code for DANOS was released as open source to the > > Linux Foundation and published at https://github.com/danos > > <https://github.com/danos> > > This is pretty awesome news. > > From what I'm reading, it looks like the commercial support options > will be able to use ZebOS as the routing engine instead of quagga? > EdgeOS has been using it for a while, and was a huge step up in terms of > stability and functionality. > > > Curiously, at the same time EdgeOS replaced Quagga with ZebOS I started > reading more complaints and more people dropping UBNT altogether in the L3 > world. > So I wonder if it was a good decision or not... > > > Rubens > >
Re: AT released DANOS code to Linux Foundation
DANOS is using FRR in the opensource version at least. On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 1:15 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > Chances are, if there was a decision to be made, UBNT made the wrong > choice. > > That said, I've heard a lot of good about ZebOS. *shrugs* > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------ > *From: *"Rubens Kuhl" > *To: *"Nanog" > *Sent: *Monday, November 18, 2019 3:10:39 PM > *Subject: *Re: AT released DANOS code to Linux Foundation > > > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 5:55 PM Brielle wrote: > >> On 11/18/2019 1:31 PM, Jared Geiger wrote: >> > This past Friday, the code for DANOS was released as open source to the >> > Linux Foundation and published at https://github.com/danos >> >> This is pretty awesome news. >> >> From what I'm reading, it looks like the commercial support options >> will be able to use ZebOS as the routing engine instead of quagga? >> EdgeOS has been using it for a while, and was a huge step up in terms of >> stability and functionality. >> >> > Curiously, at the same time EdgeOS replaced Quagga with ZebOS I started > reading more complaints and more people dropping UBNT altogether in the L3 > world. > So I wonder if it was a good decision or not... > > > Rubens > > >
Re: AT released DANOS code to Linux Foundation
For an additional point of reference - I run two Edgerouter Pros with multiple full tables (v4 and v6). One of them is fine, but one of them crashes and reboots about once a week. I'm currently trying to replace them, possibly with DANOS now that it's out. On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 4:23 PM Brielle wrote: > On 11/18/2019 2:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Chances are, if there was a decision to be made, UBNT made the wrong > choice. > > > > That said, I've heard a lot of good about ZebOS. *shrugs* > > Well, early on during the switch there was a few issues with the change. > For example, I had to fix the support for various IPv6 bits like 6rd. > > It really should have been labeled as a major release (1.0 -> 2.0) > instead of an incremental (1.x to 1.x+1)... but hindsight and all. > > That being said, I do run a few EdgeRouter Infinities with OSPF and BGP > (taking full tables for v4 and v6) and they've not had glaring issues > for any of my uses. > > Some people just upgrade WAYY too quickly without doing proper bench > testing - and it always bites you in the ass in the end. > > -- > Brielle Bruns > The Summit Open Source Development Group > http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org >
Re: AT released DANOS code to Linux Foundation
On 11/18/2019 2:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Chances are, if there was a decision to be made, UBNT made the wrong choice. That said, I've heard a lot of good about ZebOS. *shrugs* Well, early on during the switch there was a few issues with the change. For example, I had to fix the support for various IPv6 bits like 6rd. It really should have been labeled as a major release (1.0 -> 2.0) instead of an incremental (1.x to 1.x+1)... but hindsight and all. That being said, I do run a few EdgeRouter Infinities with OSPF and BGP (taking full tables for v4 and v6) and they've not had glaring issues for any of my uses. Some people just upgrade WAYY too quickly without doing proper bench testing - and it always bites you in the ass in the end. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org
Re: AT released DANOS code to Linux Foundation
Chances are, if there was a decision to be made, UBNT made the wrong choice. That said, I've heard a lot of good about ZebOS. *shrugs* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Rubens Kuhl" To: "Nanog" Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 3:10:39 PM Subject: Re: AT released DANOS code to Linux Foundation On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 5:55 PM Brielle < br...@2mbit.com > wrote: On 11/18/2019 1:31 PM, Jared Geiger wrote: > This past Friday, the code for DANOS was released as open source to the > Linux Foundation and published at https://github.com/danos This is pretty awesome news. >From what I'm reading, it looks like the commercial support options will be able to use ZebOS as the routing engine instead of quagga? EdgeOS has been using it for a while, and was a huge step up in terms of stability and functionality. Curiously, at the same time EdgeOS replaced Quagga with ZebOS I started reading more complaints and more people dropping UBNT altogether in the L3 world. So I wonder if it was a good decision or not... Rubens
Re: AT released DANOS code to Linux Foundation
On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 5:55 PM Brielle wrote: > On 11/18/2019 1:31 PM, Jared Geiger wrote: > > This past Friday, the code for DANOS was released as open source to the > > Linux Foundation and published at https://github.com/danos > > This is pretty awesome news. > > From what I'm reading, it looks like the commercial support options > will be able to use ZebOS as the routing engine instead of quagga? > EdgeOS has been using it for a while, and was a huge step up in terms of > stability and functionality. > > Curiously, at the same time EdgeOS replaced Quagga with ZebOS I started reading more complaints and more people dropping UBNT altogether in the L3 world. So I wonder if it was a good decision or not... Rubens
Re: AT released DANOS code to Linux Foundation
On 11/18/2019 1:31 PM, Jared Geiger wrote: This past Friday, the code for DANOS was released as open source to the Linux Foundation and published at https://github.com/danos This is pretty awesome news. From what I'm reading, it looks like the commercial support options will be able to use ZebOS as the routing engine instead of quagga? EdgeOS has been using it for a while, and was a huge step up in terms of stability and functionality. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org
AT released DANOS code to Linux Foundation
This past Friday, the code for DANOS was released as open source to the Linux Foundation and published at https://github.com/danos AT bought the Vyatta product from Brocade and developed on the DPDK Brocade Vyatta 5600 version. The software was renamed DANOS. So if it performs like other DPDK routers, you can expect about 10 Gbps of throughput per XEON 2600v4 or newer core you allocate to it. Other closed source DPDK router products are able to do 100+ Gbps with appropriate CPU and network interface resources. This would make it the first opensource fully functioning DPDK based router. The CLI configuration is slightly different even from the last vyatta 5600 version released but easy to adapt to if familiar with vyos or ubiquiti edgeos. AT is using it in production in various locations and roles. News articles reference IP Infusion as the vendor offering commercial support but it seems they may only support the cellsite gateway router. https://www.fiercetelecom.com/telecom/at-t-sets-a-date-to-drop-danos-into-linux-foundation-names-ip-infusion-as-reseller The project's site is https://www.danosproject.org/ A bootable ISO is at https://danosproject.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/DAN/pages/753667/DANOS+1908 I'm only an enthusiast and not affiliated with the project. Regards, Jared Geiger
