Re: Bell Canada IP transit - NID required?

2018-09-11 Thread Alain Hebert

    Depending on the Colo...  It is generally a fiber for everyone.

    But Bell being Bell (wink wink) I'm sure they made this extra 
 and  for no reason at all.


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On 09/09/18 11:04, Clayton Zekelman wrote:


We used to have a GigE transit port terminated on CO connecting links 
inside one of their COs long ago.  No CPE.  They may have changed 
their policy since then.


At 07:25 PM 08/09/2018, JASON BOTHE via NANOG wrote:


All,

Just curious if anyone uses Bell Canada for IP transit in a colo 
environment and whether or not you were able to obtain a traditional 
cross-connect without having Bell place a managed CPE device in your 
cage. I can’t seem to find anyone intelligent enough to tell my any 
different other than “it’s never been done before” and “we 
need remote testing capabilities.”


J~






Re: Bell Canada IP transit - NID required?

2018-09-10 Thread Jeff Bilyk
+1 to using their wholesale platform to accomplish this, either via an
account rep or WSS portal.

On Sat, Sep 8, 2018, 10:04 PM Eric Dugas  wrote:

> I've requested many times 1G/10G EI circuits without CPEs and even had
> Settlement based peering from AS577 delivered on an EVC on a CPE-less ENNI
> so they definitely be flexible.
>
> This was with Bell wholesale thought. If you deal with retail, your
> experience may vary...
>
> On Sat, Sep 8, 2018, 19:25 JASON BOTHE via NANOG  wrote:
>
>>
>> All,
>>
>> Just curious if anyone uses Bell Canada for IP transit in a colo
>> environment and whether or not you were able to obtain a traditional
>> cross-connect without having Bell place a managed CPE device in your cage.
>> I can’t seem to find anyone intelligent enough to tell my any different
>> other than “it’s never been done before” and “we need remote testing
>> capabilities.”
>>
>> J~
>
>


Re: Bell Canada IP transit - NID required?

2018-09-10 Thread John Hurley
I'm fairly certain I was told if I was in bell Colo they would be passing
me Ethernet without a CPE/nid. I'm also pretty sure they said they normally
do that where possible in Colo. But I could be wrong.

My last discussions were with wholesale.
--john

On Sat, Sep 8, 2018, 7:26 PM JASON BOTHE via NANOG  wrote:

>
> All,
>
> Just curious if anyone uses Bell Canada for IP transit in a colo
> environment and whether or not you were able to obtain a traditional
> cross-connect without having Bell place a managed CPE device in your cage.
> I can’t seem to find anyone intelligent enough to tell my any different
> other than “it’s never been done before” and “we need remote testing
> capabilities.”
>
> J~


Re: Bell Canada IP transit - NID required?

2018-09-09 Thread Clayton Zekelman



We used to have a GigE transit port terminated on 
CO connecting links inside one of their COs long 
ago.  No CPE.  They may have changed their policy since then.


At 07:25 PM 08/09/2018, JASON BOTHE via NANOG wrote:


All,

Just curious if anyone uses Bell Canada for IP 
transit in a colo environment and whether or not 
you were able to obtain a traditional 
cross-connect without having Bell place a 
managed CPE device in your cage. I can’t seem 
to find anyone intelligent enough to tell my any 
different other than “it’s never been done 
before” and “we need remote testing capabilities.”


J~


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3363 Tecumseh Rd. E
Windsor, Ontario
N8W 1H4

tel. 519-985-8410
fax. 519-985-8409



Re: Bell Canada IP transit - NID required?

2018-09-08 Thread Eric Dugas
I've requested many times 1G/10G EI circuits without CPEs and even had
Settlement based peering from AS577 delivered on an EVC on a CPE-less ENNI
so they definitely be flexible.

This was with Bell wholesale thought. If you deal with retail, your
experience may vary...

On Sat, Sep 8, 2018, 19:25 JASON BOTHE via NANOG  wrote:

>
> All,
>
> Just curious if anyone uses Bell Canada for IP transit in a colo
> environment and whether or not you were able to obtain a traditional
> cross-connect without having Bell place a managed CPE device in your cage.
> I can’t seem to find anyone intelligent enough to tell my any different
> other than “it’s never been done before” and “we need remote testing
> capabilities.”
>
> J~


Bell Canada IP transit - NID required?

2018-09-08 Thread JASON BOTHE via NANOG


All,

Just curious if anyone uses Bell Canada for IP transit in a colo environment 
and whether or not you were able to obtain a traditional cross-connect without 
having Bell place a managed CPE device in your cage. I can’t seem to find 
anyone intelligent enough to tell my any different other than “it’s never been 
done before” and “we need remote testing capabilities.”

J~