C/D[WDM]

2010-12-22 Thread Drew Weaver
Anyone have any opinion on a user friendly and low-to-mid-priced CWDM or DWDM 
system?

We need to take one pair of dark fiber and get about 5-6 10G ports on both 
sides.

This is the info that the DF provider has given us on the route:

Operating Wavelength:   1310/1550nm
Maximum Attenuation:0.35 dB/km for 1310 wavelength
0.25 dB/km for 1550 wavelength

Any suggestions would be tremendously helpful.

thanks,
-Drew



Re: C/D[WDM]

2010-12-22 Thread Danijel
This should fit the pricerange:
http://www.cubeoptics.com/passive_components.php
Haven't used them yet but know of one local operator that is using them and
is very satisfied...

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On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 15:14, Drew Weaver drew.wea...@thenap.com wrote:

 Anyone have any opinion on a user friendly and low-to-mid-priced CWDM or
 DWDM system?

 We need to take one pair of dark fiber and get about 5-6 10G ports on both
 sides.

 This is the info that the DF provider has given us on the route:

 Operating Wavelength:   1310/1550nm
 Maximum Attenuation:0.35 dB/km for 1310 wavelength
0.25 dB/km for 1550 wavelength

 Any suggestions would be tremendously helpful.

 thanks,
 -Drew




Re: C/D[WDM]

2010-12-22 Thread Arnold Nipper
On 22.12.2010 15:31 Danijel wrote

 This should fit the pricerange:
 http://www.cubeoptics.com/passive_components.php
 Haven't used them yet but know of one local operator that is using them and
 is very satisfied...
 

We are using a couple of CUBO's passive DWDM muxes @ DE-CIX. Work like a
charm.




Arnold
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email: arn...@nipper.de   phone: +49 6224 9259 299
mobile: +49 152 53717690  fax:   +49 6224 9259 333



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Re: C/D[WDM]

2010-12-22 Thread Raphael Maunier
+1

All our dwdm backbone is CubeOptics powered. We have about 30 pairs of DWDM 
band-spliiters and muxes.
The attenuation is the lowest we have seen on all the wdm muxes we have tested.

The tech guys @Cube optics are really smart. You can also ask for a specific 
mux if you have a want THE MUX.

You can buy CubeOptics muxes your eyes closed

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Raphaël Maunier
NEO TELECOMS
CTO / Responsable Ingénierie
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On Dec 22, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Arnold Nipper wrote:

 On 22.12.2010 15:31 Danijel wrote
 
 This should fit the pricerange:
 http://www.cubeoptics.com/passive_components.php
 Haven't used them yet but know of one local operator that is using them and
 is very satisfied...
 
 
 We are using a couple of CUBO's passive DWDM muxes @ DE-CIX. Work like a
 charm.
 
 
 
 
 Arnold
 -- 
 Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany
 email: arn...@nipper.de   phone: +49 6224 9259 299
 mobile: +49 152 53717690  fax:   +49 6224 9259 333
 





Re: C/D[WDM]

2010-12-22 Thread Adam Rothschild
+1 on the CUBO recommendation.  In addition to muxes, we've worked
with them as a supplier of (Finisar) colored optics; our dealings have
been extremely favorable on all fronts.

-a



Re: C/D[WDM]

2010-12-22 Thread Randy Bush
 Anyone have any opinion on a user friendly and low-to-mid-priced CWDM
 or DWDM system?
 
 We need to take one pair of dark fiber and get about 5-6 10G ports on
 both sides.

what kind of 10G ports?  10gige?  if so, i do not see how the cubo
stuff helps.

will http://xkl.com/ do it for you (if short range)?

randy



RE: C/D[WDM]

2010-12-22 Thread Drew Weaver
Yes, sorry I should've specified 10Gig-E and I would like to avoid using 
CWDM/DWDM optics if possible I would just like to use regular LR optics.

thanks,
-Drew


-Original Message-
From: Randy Bush [mailto:ra...@psg.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 6:35 PM
To: Drew Weaver
Cc: 'nanog@nanog.org'
Subject: Re: C/D[WDM]

 Anyone have any opinion on a user friendly and low-to-mid-priced CWDM
 or DWDM system?
 
 We need to take one pair of dark fiber and get about 5-6 10G ports on
 both sides.

what kind of 10G ports?  10gige?  if so, i do not see how the cubo
stuff helps.

will http://xkl.com/ do it for you (if short range)?

randy



Re: C/D[WDM]

2010-12-22 Thread Adam Rothschild
On 2010-12-22-19:44:31, Drew Weaver drew.wea...@thenap.com wrote:
 Yes, sorry I should've specified 10Gig-E and I would like to avoid
 using CWDM/DWDM optics if possible I would just like to use regular LR
 optics.

The common misconception is that, just because you're not installing
colored optics directly in your router, something similar doesn't live
elsewhere in your system, mingled with a number of OEO conversions.
Neat packaging and pretty GUI is orthogonal to cheap, and you stated
both as initial requirements, so you're probably best choosing one or
the other.  We may differ on levels of frugality, however I can't
think of any active system I'd classify as cheap; at the base,
you're looking at a 2x multiplier from something assembled with cubes,
however you slice it...

If you find yourself stuck with SFP+ interfaces, or partners who don't
grok this stuff and require a conventional LR hand-off, perhaps a
2xXFP transponder is really what you're after -- feed your mux with
the colored optics, and the other end with some LR (or SR, CX4, ...).
MRV has some good products in this space.

HTH,
-a