Re: FCC and FTC Demand Cut-Off Robercallers of Coronavirus Scams

2020-04-06 Thread Tom Beecher
I was watching one of Jim Browning's s Youtube series the other day, the
one where he got into a scam call center's network so completely that he
had access to their entire operation, including CCTV cameras, and
eventually got BBC Panorama involved, which got the place shut down.

He mentioned that with all the work he does in this area, he has thousands
of call recordings of scams taking place, and he's working with a
university to try and see if they can make an AI call bot, essentially
Lenny 2.0, that would be near impossible for scammers to detect.

Interested to see how that shakes out. :)

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 1:21 PM Dan Hollis  wrote:

> Sadly I've discovered that >95% of scammers have caught on to lenny by
> now, and hang up within the first few seconds of hearing him.
>
> I guess they've been thoroughly lenny'd already so he's no longer
> effective.
>
> -Dan
>
> On Fri, 3 Apr 2020, JASON BOTHE via NANOG wrote:
>
> > I just need my phone to have a warm transfer button with or without
> supervision to Lenny https://toao.net/595-lenny
> >
> >> On Apr 3, 2020, at 18:40, Grimes, Greg  wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >> I was thinking the EXACT same thing!!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Greg Grimes
> >> Senior Network Analyst
> >> Information Technology Services
> >> Mississippi State University
> >> 662-325-9311(w)
> >>
> >> From: NANOG  on behalf of Clayton Zekelman
> 
> >> Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 6:21:43 PM
> >> To: Sean Donelan ; nanog@nanog.org 
> >> Subject: Re: FCC and FTC Demand Cut-Off Robercallers of Coronavirus
> Scams
> >>
> >>
> >> Finally, but why did it take a pandemic to get them to do this?
> >>
> >> At 07:14 PM 03/04/2020, Sean Donelan wrote:
> >>
> >>> A sternly worded, finger-wagging press release.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1LWeqrXLGvJdEBzB1uFe8kj9AI4aQYKo58pr0a7HHabjzZjlUFhbYW9sw_3phNW8RRZcfh4T01zhFWJzwlT5koYKFBC0X9DhlUbUeWJCpcaJDWoGiw4jEvVGWiHMyWhb-DgXaHwKqs4DEaqsgXzJvXllUvcmj0hqGdV7dPWOJjhFPMUEnjT8Grl3W7MQ7A5v1nC1W9_K01pTSV8PsbPRjlTzYrA20dcqjx74JJSmlZDRnMsoPxJoZcH2jQ00PAsRaeGGdnA4EE5KwbCYlUu4M0UhYHkKmOkfjSJjZyBfAALCJQveH8qYnTfkSoI5OzVKm1aapZq23qJsbv8OReeHk8w/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fcc.gov%2Fdocument%2Ffcc-ftc-demand-gateway-providers-cut-covid-19-robocall-scammers
> >>>
> >>> [...]
> >>> The FCC¢s Enforcement Bureau and FTC¢s Bureau of
> >>> Consumer Protection wrote to three gateway
> >>> providers that are facilitating these scam
> >>> COVID-19-related robocalls: SIPJoin of Suffolk,
> >>> Virginia; Connexum of Orange, California; and
> >>> VoIP Terminator/BLMarketing of Lake Mary,
> >>> Florida. The companies have been identified by
> >>> the Traceback Group, a consortium of phone
> >>> companies that help officials track down suspect
> >>> calls, managed by the trade association
> >>> USTelecom. The Commissions also wrote to
> >>> USTelecom to ask its members to begin blocking
> >>> calls from these providers if the flood of
> >>> robocalls is  not cut off within 48 hours.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Clayton Zekelman
> >> Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi)
> >> 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E
> >> Windsor, Ontario
> >> N8W 1H4
> >>
> >> tel. 519-985-8410
> >> fax. 519-985-8409
> >>
> >>
> >
>


Re: FCC and FTC Demand Cut-Off Robercallers of Coronavirus Scams

2020-04-04 Thread Dan Hollis
Sadly I've discovered that >95% of scammers have caught on to lenny by 
now, and hang up within the first few seconds of hearing him.


I guess they've been thoroughly lenny'd already so he's no longer 
effective.


-Dan

On Fri, 3 Apr 2020, JASON BOTHE via NANOG wrote:


I just need my phone to have a warm transfer button with or without supervision 
to Lenny https://toao.net/595-lenny


On Apr 3, 2020, at 18:40, Grimes, Greg  wrote:

???
I was thinking the EXACT same thing!!

--
Greg Grimes
Senior Network Analyst
Information Technology Services
Mississippi State University
662-325-9311(w)

From: NANOG  on behalf of Clayton Zekelman 

Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 6:21:43 PM
To: Sean Donelan ; nanog@nanog.org 
Subject: Re: FCC and FTC Demand Cut-Off Robercallers of Coronavirus Scams


Finally, but why did it take a pandemic to get them to do this?

At 07:14 PM 03/04/2020, Sean Donelan wrote:


A sternly worded, finger-wagging press release.


https://secure-web.cisco.com/1LWeqrXLGvJdEBzB1uFe8kj9AI4aQYKo58pr0a7HHabjzZjlUFhbYW9sw_3phNW8RRZcfh4T01zhFWJzwlT5koYKFBC0X9DhlUbUeWJCpcaJDWoGiw4jEvVGWiHMyWhb-DgXaHwKqs4DEaqsgXzJvXllUvcmj0hqGdV7dPWOJjhFPMUEnjT8Grl3W7MQ7A5v1nC1W9_K01pTSV8PsbPRjlTzYrA20dcqjx74JJSmlZDRnMsoPxJoZcH2jQ00PAsRaeGGdnA4EE5KwbCYlUu4M0UhYHkKmOkfjSJjZyBfAALCJQveH8qYnTfkSoI5OzVKm1aapZq23qJsbv8OReeHk8w/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fcc.gov%2Fdocument%2Ffcc-ftc-demand-gateway-providers-cut-covid-19-robocall-scammers

[...]
The FCC??s Enforcement Bureau and FTC??s Bureau of
Consumer Protection wrote to three gateway
providers that are facilitating these scam
COVID-19-related robocalls: SIPJoin of Suffolk,
Virginia; Connexum of Orange, California; and
VoIP Terminator/BLMarketing of Lake Mary,
Florida. The companies have been identified by
the Traceback Group, a consortium of phone
companies that help officials track down suspect
calls, managed by the trade association
USTelecom. The Commissions also wrote to
USTelecom to ask its members to begin blocking
calls from these providers if the flood of
robocalls is  not cut off within 48 hours.


--

Clayton Zekelman
Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi)
3363 Tecumseh Rd. E
Windsor, Ontario
N8W 1H4

tel. 519-985-8410
fax. 519-985-8409






Re: FCC and FTC Demand Cut-Off Robercallers of Coronavirus Scams

2020-04-03 Thread JASON BOTHE via NANOG
I just need my phone to have a warm transfer button with or without supervision 
to Lenny https://toao.net/595-lenny

> On Apr 3, 2020, at 18:40, Grimes, Greg  wrote:
> 
> 
> I was thinking the EXACT same thing!!
> 
> --
> Greg Grimes
> Senior Network Analyst 
> Information Technology Services 
> Mississippi State University 
> 662-325-9311(w)
> 
> From: NANOG  on behalf of Clayton Zekelman 
> 
> Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 6:21:43 PM
> To: Sean Donelan ; nanog@nanog.org 
> Subject: Re: FCC and FTC Demand Cut-Off Robercallers of Coronavirus Scams
>  
> 
> Finally, but why did it take a pandemic to get them to do this?
> 
> At 07:14 PM 03/04/2020, Sean Donelan wrote:
> 
> >A sternly worded, finger-wagging press release.
> >
> >
> >https://secure-web.cisco.com/1LWeqrXLGvJdEBzB1uFe8kj9AI4aQYKo58pr0a7HHabjzZjlUFhbYW9sw_3phNW8RRZcfh4T01zhFWJzwlT5koYKFBC0X9DhlUbUeWJCpcaJDWoGiw4jEvVGWiHMyWhb-DgXaHwKqs4DEaqsgXzJvXllUvcmj0hqGdV7dPWOJjhFPMUEnjT8Grl3W7MQ7A5v1nC1W9_K01pTSV8PsbPRjlTzYrA20dcqjx74JJSmlZDRnMsoPxJoZcH2jQ00PAsRaeGGdnA4EE5KwbCYlUu4M0UhYHkKmOkfjSJjZyBfAALCJQveH8qYnTfkSoI5OzVKm1aapZq23qJsbv8OReeHk8w/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fcc.gov%2Fdocument%2Ffcc-ftc-demand-gateway-providers-cut-covid-19-robocall-scammers
> >
> >[...]
> >The FCC¢s Enforcement Bureau and FTC¢s Bureau of 
> >Consumer Protection wrote to three gateway 
> >providers that are facilitating these scam 
> >COVID-19-related robocalls: SIPJoin of Suffolk, 
> >Virginia; Connexum of Orange, California; and 
> >VoIP Terminator/BLMarketing of Lake Mary, 
> >Florida. The companies have been identified by 
> >the Traceback Group, a consortium of phone 
> >companies that help officials track down suspect 
> >calls, managed by the trade association 
> >USTelecom. The Commissions also wrote to 
> >USTelecom to ask its members to begin blocking
> >calls from these providers if the flood of 
> >robocalls is  not cut off within 48 hours.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Clayton Zekelman
> Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi)
> 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E
> Windsor, Ontario
> N8W 1H4
> 
> tel. 519-985-8410
> fax. 519-985-8409
> 
> 


Re: FCC and FTC Demand Cut-Off Robercallers of Coronavirus Scams

2020-04-03 Thread Grimes, Greg
I was thinking the EXACT same thing!!

--
Greg Grimes
Senior Network Analyst
Information Technology Services
Mississippi State University
662-325-9311(w)


From: NANOG  on behalf of Clayton Zekelman 

Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 6:21:43 PM
To: Sean Donelan ; nanog@nanog.org 
Subject: Re: FCC and FTC Demand Cut-Off Robercallers of Coronavirus Scams


Finally, but why did it take a pandemic to get them to do this?

At 07:14 PM 03/04/2020, Sean Donelan wrote:

>A sternly worded, finger-wagging press release.
>
>
>https://secure-web.cisco.com/1LWeqrXLGvJdEBzB1uFe8kj9AI4aQYKo58pr0a7HHabjzZjlUFhbYW9sw_3phNW8RRZcfh4T01zhFWJzwlT5koYKFBC0X9DhlUbUeWJCpcaJDWoGiw4jEvVGWiHMyWhb-DgXaHwKqs4DEaqsgXzJvXllUvcmj0hqGdV7dPWOJjhFPMUEnjT8Grl3W7MQ7A5v1nC1W9_K01pTSV8PsbPRjlTzYrA20dcqjx74JJSmlZDRnMsoPxJoZcH2jQ00PAsRaeGGdnA4EE5KwbCYlUu4M0UhYHkKmOkfjSJjZyBfAALCJQveH8qYnTfkSoI5OzVKm1aapZq23qJsbv8OReeHk8w/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fcc.gov%2Fdocument%2Ffcc-ftc-demand-gateway-providers-cut-covid-19-robocall-scammers
>
>[...]
>The FCC¢s Enforcement Bureau and FTC¢s Bureau of
>Consumer Protection wrote to three gateway
>providers that are facilitating these scam
>COVID-19-related robocalls: SIPJoin of Suffolk,
>Virginia; Connexum of Orange, California; and
>VoIP Terminator/BLMarketing of Lake Mary,
>Florida. The companies have been identified by
>the Traceback Group, a consortium of phone
>companies that help officials track down suspect
>calls, managed by the trade association
>USTelecom. The Commissions also wrote to
>USTelecom to ask its members to begin blocking
>calls from these providers if the flood of
>robocalls is  not cut off within 48 hours.

--

Clayton Zekelman
Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi)
3363 Tecumseh Rd. E
Windsor, Ontario
N8W 1H4

tel. 519-985-8410
fax. 519-985-8409




Re: FCC and FTC Demand Cut-Off Robercallers of Coronavirus Scams

2020-04-03 Thread Clayton Zekelman



Finally, but why did it take a pandemic to get them to do this?

At 07:14 PM 03/04/2020, Sean Donelan wrote:


A sternly worded, finger-wagging press release.


https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-ftc-demand-gateway-providers-cut-covid-19-robocall-scammers

[...]
The FCC¢s Enforcement Bureau and FTC¢s Bureau of 
Consumer Protection wrote to three gateway 
providers that are facilitating these scam 
COVID-19-related robocalls: SIPJoin of Suffolk, 
Virginia; Connexum of Orange, California; and 
VoIP Terminator/BLMarketing of Lake Mary, 
Florida. The companies have been identified by 
the Traceback Group, a consortium of phone 
companies that help officials track down suspect 
calls, managed by the trade association 
USTelecom. The Commissions also wrote to 
USTelecom to ask its members to begin blocking 
calls from these providers if the flood of 
robocalls is  not cut off within 48 hours.


--

Clayton Zekelman
Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi)
3363 Tecumseh Rd. E
Windsor, Ontario
N8W 1H4

tel. 519-985-8410
fax. 519-985-8409



FCC and FTC Demand Cut-Off Robercallers of Coronavirus Scams

2020-04-03 Thread Sean Donelan



A sternly worded, finger-wagging press release.


https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-ftc-demand-gateway-providers-cut-covid-19-robocall-scammers

[...]
The FCC’s Enforcement Bureau and FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection wrote 
to three gateway providers that are facilitating these scam 
COVID-19-related robocalls: SIPJoin of Suffolk, Virginia; Connexum of 
Orange, California; and VoIP Terminator/BLMarketing of Lake Mary, Florida. 
The companies have been identified by the Traceback Group, a consortium 
of phone companies that help officials track down suspect calls, managed 
by the trade association USTelecom. The Commissions also wrote to 
USTelecom to ask its members to begin blocking calls from these providers 
if the flood of robocalls is  not cut off within 48 hours.