Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High Speed Internet is against Sharia

2014-09-02 Thread Alain Hebert
Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:
 see also:
 http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/09/iran-3g-phones-filter-unsanitary-water.html#


 restated slightly, video, the primary vehicle for porn, needs minders,
 text, the primary vehicle for ideas, does not.

What about ASCII porn?

It was the first thing I printed on a HP mini in the mid-80's. =D


 -e

 On 8/31/14 11:08 PM, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:
 well, looking at the ayatollah's website and invoking google
 translate there's this language:

 ... different mechanisms to secure and protect their users against
 the moral and psychological damage this type of service, including
 access to information, videos and photos from immoral and inhuman,
 rumors and seduction, spying and undermining the foundations of the
 family ...

 so, not a lot goofier than the objection to .xxx made by the usg, or
 available at most media outlets that sell the meme that the internet
 causes shit to happen.

 -e

  On 8/31/14 10:35 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
 Cause it's a long weekend, and why shouldn't it be whackier than
 normal.

 - Forwarded Message -
 From: PRIVACY Forum mailing list priv...@vortex.com
 To: privacy-l...@vortex.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 11:34:16 PM
 Subject: [ PRIVACY Forum ] An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa
 Stating High Speed Internet is against Sharia
 An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High Speed Internet is
 against Sharia

 (Iran Human Rights):
 http://www.iranhumanrights.org/2014/08/makarem-internet/

 A Grand Ayatollah in Iran has determined that access to high-speed and
 3G Internet is against Sharia and against moral standards. In
 answer to a question published on his website, Grand Ayatollah Nasser
 Makarem Shirazi, one of the country's highest clerical authorities,
 issued a fatwa, stating All third generation [3G] and high-speed
 internet services, prior to realization of the required conditions for
 the National Information Network [Iran's government-controlled and
 censored Internet which is under development], is against Sharia [and]
 against moral and human standards.

 - - -

 Comcast, Verizon, ATT, Time Warner Cable, and other dominant ISPs are
 now in a bidding war to hire him as a consultant and board member.
 RUN AWAY!!!

 Cheers,
 -- jra









Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High Speed Internet is against Sharia

2014-09-02 Thread Joe Hamelin
I'm guessing that he is upset at the price of new Sandvines or whatever
they use.  Maybe a ploy to bend the vendor on maintenance contract cost.

--
Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474


Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High Speed Internet is against Sharia

2014-09-01 Thread Larry Sheldon

On 9/1/2014 00:35, Jay Ashworth wrote:

Cause it's a long weekend, and why shouldn't it be whackier than normal.

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To: privacy-l...@vortex.com
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 11:34:16 PM
Subject: [ PRIVACY Forum ] An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High 
Speed Internet is against Sharia
An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High Speed Internet is
against Sharia

(Iran Human Rights):
http://www.iranhumanrights.org/2014/08/makarem-internet/

A Grand Ayatollah in Iran has determined that access to high-speed and
3G Internet is against Sharia and against moral standards. In
answer to a question published on his website, Grand Ayatollah Nasser

  ^^
Is that odd?
--
The unique Characteristics of System Administrators:

The fact that they are infallible; and,

The fact that they learn from their mistakes.


Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High Speed Internet is against Sharia

2014-09-01 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
well, looking at the ayatollah's website and invoking google translate 
there's this language:


... different mechanisms to secure and protect their users against the 
moral and psychological damage this type of service, including access to 
information, videos and photos from immoral and inhuman, rumors and 
seduction, spying and undermining the foundations of the family ...


so, not a lot goofier than the objection to .xxx made by the usg, or 
available at most media outlets that sell the meme that the internet 
causes shit to happen.


-e

 On 8/31/14 10:35 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:

Cause it's a long weekend, and why shouldn't it be whackier than normal.

- Forwarded Message -

From: PRIVACY Forum mailing list priv...@vortex.com
To: privacy-l...@vortex.com
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 11:34:16 PM
Subject: [ PRIVACY Forum ] An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High 
Speed Internet is against Sharia
An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High Speed Internet is
against Sharia

(Iran Human Rights):
http://www.iranhumanrights.org/2014/08/makarem-internet/

A Grand Ayatollah in Iran has determined that access to high-speed and
3G Internet is against Sharia and against moral standards. In
answer to a question published on his website, Grand Ayatollah Nasser
Makarem Shirazi, one of the country's highest clerical authorities,
issued a fatwa, stating All third generation [3G] and high-speed
internet services, prior to realization of the required conditions for
the National Information Network [Iran's government-controlled and
censored Internet which is under development], is against Sharia [and]
against moral and human standards.

- - -

Comcast, Verizon, ATT, Time Warner Cable, and other dominant ISPs are
now in a bidding war to hire him as a consultant and board member.

RUN AWAY!!!

Cheers,
-- jra





Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High Speed Internet is against Sharia

2014-09-01 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams

see also:
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/09/iran-3g-phones-filter-unsanitary-water.html#

restated slightly, video, the primary vehicle for porn, needs minders, 
text, the primary vehicle for ideas, does not.


-e

On 8/31/14 11:08 PM, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:
well, looking at the ayatollah's website and invoking google translate 
there's this language:


... different mechanisms to secure and protect their users against 
the moral and psychological damage this type of service, including 
access to information, videos and photos from immoral and inhuman, 
rumors and seduction, spying and undermining the foundations of the 
family ...


so, not a lot goofier than the objection to .xxx made by the usg, or 
available at most media outlets that sell the meme that the internet 
causes shit to happen.


-e

 On 8/31/14 10:35 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:

Cause it's a long weekend, and why shouldn't it be whackier than normal.

- Forwarded Message -

From: PRIVACY Forum mailing list priv...@vortex.com
To: privacy-l...@vortex.com
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 11:34:16 PM
Subject: [ PRIVACY Forum ] An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa 
Stating High Speed Internet is against Sharia

An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High Speed Internet is
against Sharia

(Iran Human Rights):
http://www.iranhumanrights.org/2014/08/makarem-internet/

A Grand Ayatollah in Iran has determined that access to high-speed and
3G Internet is against Sharia and against moral standards. In
answer to a question published on his website, Grand Ayatollah Nasser
Makarem Shirazi, one of the country's highest clerical authorities,
issued a fatwa, stating All third generation [3G] and high-speed
internet services, prior to realization of the required conditions for
the National Information Network [Iran's government-controlled and
censored Internet which is under development], is against Sharia [and]
against moral and human standards.

- - -

Comcast, Verizon, ATT, Time Warner Cable, and other dominant ISPs are
now in a bidding war to hire him as a consultant and board member.

RUN AWAY!!!

Cheers,
-- jra









Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High Speed Internet is against Sharia

2014-08-31 Thread Jay Ashworth
Cause it's a long weekend, and why shouldn't it be whackier than normal.

- Forwarded Message -
 From: PRIVACY Forum mailing list priv...@vortex.com
 To: privacy-l...@vortex.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 11:34:16 PM
 Subject: [ PRIVACY Forum ] An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating 
 High Speed Internet is against Sharia
 An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High Speed Internet is
 against Sharia
 
 (Iran Human Rights):
 http://www.iranhumanrights.org/2014/08/makarem-internet/
 
 A Grand Ayatollah in Iran has determined that access to high-speed and
 3G Internet is against Sharia and against moral standards. In
 answer to a question published on his website, Grand Ayatollah Nasser
 Makarem Shirazi, one of the country's highest clerical authorities,
 issued a fatwa, stating All third generation [3G] and high-speed
 internet services, prior to realization of the required conditions for
 the National Information Network [Iran's government-controlled and
 censored Internet which is under development], is against Sharia [and]
 against moral and human standards.
 
 - - -
 
 Comcast, Verizon, ATT, Time Warner Cable, and other dominant ISPs are
 now in a bidding war to hire him as a consultant and board member.

RUN AWAY!!!

Cheers,
-- jra

-- 
Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink   j...@baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth  Associates   http://www.bcp38.info  2000 Land Rover DII
St Petersburg FL USA  BCP38: Ask For It By Name!   +1 727 647 1274


Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High Speed Internet is against Sharia

2014-08-31 Thread mcfbbqroast .
Ladies and gentlemen, we have our mysterious backhoe driver.

Who would've known?
On 1 Sep 2014 17:37, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:

 Cause it's a long weekend, and why shouldn't it be whackier than normal.

 - Forwarded Message -
  From: PRIVACY Forum mailing list priv...@vortex.com
  To: privacy-l...@vortex.com
  Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 11:34:16 PM
  Subject: [ PRIVACY Forum ] An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa
 Stating High Speed Internet is against Sharia
  An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High Speed Internet is
  against Sharia
 
  (Iran Human Rights):
  http://www.iranhumanrights.org/2014/08/makarem-internet/
 
  A Grand Ayatollah in Iran has determined that access to high-speed and
  3G Internet is against Sharia and against moral standards. In
  answer to a question published on his website, Grand Ayatollah Nasser
  Makarem Shirazi, one of the country's highest clerical authorities,
  issued a fatwa, stating All third generation [3G] and high-speed
  internet services, prior to realization of the required conditions for
  the National Information Network [Iran's government-controlled and
  censored Internet which is under development], is against Sharia [and]
  against moral and human standards.
 
  - - -
 
  Comcast, Verizon, ATT, Time Warner Cable, and other dominant ISPs are
  now in a bidding war to hire him as a consultant and board member.

 RUN AWAY!!!

 Cheers,
 -- jra

 --
 Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink
 j...@baylink.com
 Designer The Things I Think   RFC
 2100
 Ashworth  Associates   http://www.bcp38.info  2000 Land
 Rover DII
 St Petersburg FL USA  BCP38: Ask For It By Name!   +1 727 647
 1274