Re: GPS rollover

2019-04-06 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
oops, I guess I was wrong,  missed the drama somehow.   Ignore my previous
comment.

On Sat, Apr 6, 2019, 6:17 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Still being maintained. .. https://www.apneaboard.com/sleepyhead/
>
> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019, 5:30 AM Jared Mauch  wrote:
>
>> I keep mine in airplane mode and use SleepyHead to read the SD card.  (I
>> see it was shut down by the developer, but it should still work for you).
>>
>> - jared
>>
>> > On Apr 5, 2019, at 7:47 PM, Eric Parsonage  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > I personally fell foul of this last night. My CPAP machine switched
>> itself off. It has an internal cellular modem which it uses to exchange
>> usage data but since I never have to set the date and time I assume it gets
>> this from my cellular network. Its hardly a graceful fail  when the air
>> supply turns itself off.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>


Re: GPS rollover

2019-04-06 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Still being maintained. .. https://www.apneaboard.com/sleepyhead/

On Sat, Apr 6, 2019, 5:30 AM Jared Mauch  wrote:

> I keep mine in airplane mode and use SleepyHead to read the SD card.  (I
> see it was shut down by the developer, but it should still work for you).
>
> - jared
>
> > On Apr 5, 2019, at 7:47 PM, Eric Parsonage  wrote:
> >
> >
> > I personally fell foul of this last night. My CPAP machine switched
> itself off. It has an internal cellular modem which it uses to exchange
> usage data but since I never have to set the date and time I assume it gets
> this from my cellular network. Its hardly a graceful fail  when the air
> supply turns itself off.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>


Re: GPS rollover

2019-04-06 Thread Jared Mauch
I keep mine in airplane mode and use SleepyHead to read the SD card.  (I see it 
was shut down by the developer, but it should still work for you).

- jared

> On Apr 5, 2019, at 7:47 PM, Eric Parsonage  wrote:
> 
> 
> I personally fell foul of this last night. My CPAP machine switched itself 
> off. It has an internal cellular modem which it uses to exchange usage data 
> but since I never have to set the date and time I assume it gets this from my 
> cellular network. Its hardly a graceful fail  when the air supply turns 
> itself off. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



Re: GPS rollover

2019-04-05 Thread Mark Andrews
Sounds like something that should be reported to the FDA.

-- 
Mark Andrews

> On 6 Apr 2019, at 10:47, Eric Parsonage  wrote:
> 
> 
> I personally fell foul of this last night. My CPAP machine switched itself 
> off. It has an internal cellular modem which it uses to exchange usage data 
> but since I never have to set the date and time I assume it gets this from my 
> cellular network. Its hardly a graceful fail  when the air supply turns 
> itself off. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



GPS rollover

2019-04-05 Thread Eric Parsonage


I personally fell foul of this last night. My CPAP machine switched itself off. 
It has an internal cellular modem which it uses to exchange usage data but 
since I never have to set the date and time I assume it gets this from my 
cellular network. Its hardly a graceful fail  when the air supply turns itself 
off. 

 






Re: GPS rollover

2019-03-11 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Matthew Petach :
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 8:04 PM Stephen Satchell  wrote:
> 
> > So far as I can tell with NTP, there was no issue with time sources
> > becoming false-tickers, including my local GPS appliance.  FWIW.
> >
> >
> I believe the rollover is *next* month, in April.   :)
> https://ics-cert.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Memorandum_on_GPS_2019.pdf
> 
> "This paper is intended to provide an understanding of the possible effects
> of the April 6, 2019 GPS Week Number Rollover on Coordinated Universal Time
> derived from GPS devices."

I'm a domain expert in this area - lead of NTPsec and GPSD.

Everything said in that memo is correct.  I would add only that it is
more normal now than not for GPSes to have a hidden pivot date. "For
example, a particular GPS device may interpret the WN parameter
relative to a firmware creation date and would experience a similar
rollover event 1024 weeks after that firmware creation date." Yes,
exactly.

It is therefore unlikely that your GPSes will become falsetickers on 6
April.  That's the good news.  The bad news is that they *will* go
poof some unpredictable number of weeks later.
-- 
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Re: GPS rollover

2019-03-11 Thread Matthew Petach
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 8:04 PM Stephen Satchell  wrote:

> So far as I can tell with NTP, there was no issue with time sources
> becoming false-tickers, including my local GPS appliance.  FWIW.
>
>
I believe the rollover is *next* month, in April.   :)
https://ics-cert.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Memorandum_on_GPS_2019.pdf

"This paper is intended to provide an understanding of the possible effects
of the April 6, 2019 GPS Week Number Rollover on Coordinated Universal Time
derived from GPS devices."

Matt


GPS rollover

2019-03-10 Thread Stephen Satchell
So far as I can tell with NTP, there was no issue with time sources
becoming false-tickers, including my local GPS appliance.  FWIW.