RE: Good MPLS/VPLS book?

2011-01-20 Thread Brandon Kim

Wow thanks for the heads up! I went ahead and bought the other MPLS books, I 
guess I'll have to go get this one too now...

This is very early.I wonder why the rush?



> Subject: Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
> From: jeff.richm...@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:24:21 -0800
> CC: franc...@menards.ca; mounir.moha...@gmail.com; nanog@nanog.org
> To: brandon@brandontek.com
> 
> FYI, the 3rd edition was released early. Was delivered this morning from 
> Amazon. It has a whole new chapter on MPLS-TP (Ch. 17).
> 
> Hope this helps,
> -Jeff
> 
> On Dec 26, 2010, at 7:29 AM, Brandon Kim wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Decisions decisions, I do have other MPLS books I have not finished. I 
> > suppose I can finish them before
> > picking this up and then getting the 3rd edition.might be good timing. 
> > Good thing I didn't order the
> > 2nd edition the other day!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> Subject: Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
> >> From: franc...@menards.ca
> >> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 20:42:24 -0500
> >> To: mounir.moha...@gmail.com
> >> CC: nanog@nanog.org
> >> 
> >> Looks like a third edition is on the way slated for March 2011
> >> 
> >> http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470665459/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2
> >> 
> >> I would expect it to cover MPLS-TP and the struggling evolution of PBB-TE 
> >> ... anybody has any idea if this is in ?
> >> 
> >> F.
> >> 
> >> On 2010-12-24, at 7:47 AM, Mounir Mohamed wrote:
> >> 
> >>> The most comprehensive text is  MPLS Enabled Applications by Ina Minei
> >>> 
> >>> http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470986441/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293194786&sr=8-1
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Michael Helmeste  
> >>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all
> >>>> associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)?
> >>>> 
> >>>> I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from
> >>>> A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how
> >>>> someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this 
> >>>> subject
> >>>> would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the
> >>>> concepts are there.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>  Michael H.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> -- 
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>> Mounir Mohamed, CCIE#19573 (R&S/SP)
> >>> Senior Network Engineer, Core Team.
> >>> NOOR Data Networks, SAE
> >>> Mobile# +2-010-2345-956
> >>> http://mounirmohamed.wordpress.com
> >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/mounirmohamed
> >> 
> >> 
> >   
> 
  

Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?

2011-01-20 Thread Jeff Richmond
FYI, the 3rd edition was released early. Was delivered this morning from 
Amazon. It has a whole new chapter on MPLS-TP (Ch. 17).

Hope this helps,
-Jeff

On Dec 26, 2010, at 7:29 AM, Brandon Kim wrote:

> 
> Decisions decisions, I do have other MPLS books I have not finished. I 
> suppose I can finish them before
> picking this up and then getting the 3rd edition.might be good timing. 
> Good thing I didn't order the
> 2nd edition the other day!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Subject: Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
>> From: franc...@menards.ca
>> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 20:42:24 -0500
>> To: mounir.moha...@gmail.com
>> CC: nanog@nanog.org
>> 
>> Looks like a third edition is on the way slated for March 2011
>> 
>> http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470665459/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2
>> 
>> I would expect it to cover MPLS-TP and the struggling evolution of PBB-TE 
>> ... anybody has any idea if this is in ?
>> 
>> F.
>> 
>> On 2010-12-24, at 7:47 AM, Mounir Mohamed wrote:
>> 
>>> The most comprehensive text is  MPLS Enabled Applications by Ina Minei
>>> 
>>> http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470986441/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293194786&sr=8-1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Michael Helmeste  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all
>>>> associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)?
>>>> 
>>>> I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from
>>>> A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how
>>>> someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points.
>>>> 
>>>> Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject
>>>> would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the
>>>> concepts are there.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>>  Michael H.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Mounir Mohamed, CCIE#19573 (R&S/SP)
>>> Senior Network Engineer, Core Team.
>>> NOOR Data Networks, SAE
>>> Mobile# +2-010-2345-956
>>> http://mounirmohamed.wordpress.com
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/mounirmohamed
>> 
>> 
> 




RE: Good MPLS/VPLS book?

2010-12-26 Thread Brandon Kim

Decisions decisions, I do have other MPLS books I have not finished. I suppose 
I can finish them before
picking this up and then getting the 3rd edition.might be good timing. Good 
thing I didn't order the
2nd edition the other day!






> Subject: Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
> From: franc...@menards.ca
> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 20:42:24 -0500
> To: mounir.moha...@gmail.com
> CC: nanog@nanog.org
> 
> Looks like a third edition is on the way slated for March 2011
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470665459/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2
> 
> I would expect it to cover MPLS-TP and the struggling evolution of PBB-TE ... 
> anybody has any idea if this is in ?
> 
> F.
> 
> On 2010-12-24, at 7:47 AM, Mounir Mohamed wrote:
> 
> > The most comprehensive text is  MPLS Enabled Applications by Ina Minei
> > 
> > http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470986441/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293194786&sr=8-1
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Michael Helmeste  wrote:
> > 
> >> Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all
> >> associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)?
> >> 
> >> I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from
> >> A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how
> >> someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points.
> >> 
> >> Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject
> >> would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the
> >> concepts are there.
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >>   Michael H.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Best Regards,
> > Mounir Mohamed, CCIE#19573 (R&S/SP)
> > Senior Network Engineer, Core Team.
> > NOOR Data Networks, SAE
> > Mobile# +2-010-2345-956
> > http://mounirmohamed.wordpress.com
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mounirmohamed
> 
> 
  

Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?

2010-12-25 Thread Shahid Shafi
Amazon has detailed TOC and couple of chapters online so you should get all
the info. MPLS-TP gets a decent coverage in this book.

thanks,
Shahid

On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Francois Menard wrote:

> Looks like a third edition is on the way slated for March 2011
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470665459/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2
>
> I would expect it to cover MPLS-TP and the struggling evolution of PBB-TE
> ... anybody has any idea if this is in ?
>
> F.
>
> On 2010-12-24, at 7:47 AM, Mounir Mohamed wrote:
>
> > The most comprehensive text is  MPLS Enabled Applications by Ina Minei
> >
> >
> http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470986441/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293194786&sr=8-1
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Michael Helmeste 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all
> >> associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)?
> >>
> >> I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit
> from
> >> A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how
> >> someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points.
> >>
> >> Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this
> subject
> >> would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the
> >> concepts are there.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>   Michael H.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> > Mounir Mohamed, CCIE#19573 (R&S/SP)
> > Senior Network Engineer, Core Team.
> > NOOR Data Networks, SAE
> > Mobile# +2-010-2345-956
> > http://mounirmohamed.wordpress.com
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mounirmohamed
>
>
>


Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?

2010-12-25 Thread Francois Menard
Looks like a third edition is on the way slated for March 2011

http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470665459/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2

I would expect it to cover MPLS-TP and the struggling evolution of PBB-TE ... 
anybody has any idea if this is in ?

F.

On 2010-12-24, at 7:47 AM, Mounir Mohamed wrote:

> The most comprehensive text is  MPLS Enabled Applications by Ina Minei
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470986441/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293194786&sr=8-1
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Michael Helmeste  wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all
>> associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)?
>> 
>> I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from
>> A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how
>> someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points.
>> 
>> Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject
>> would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the
>> concepts are there.
>> 
>> Regards,
>>   Michael H.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best Regards,
> Mounir Mohamed, CCIE#19573 (R&S/SP)
> Senior Network Engineer, Core Team.
> NOOR Data Networks, SAE
> Mobile# +2-010-2345-956
> http://mounirmohamed.wordpress.com
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/mounirmohamed




Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?

2010-12-24 Thread Mounir Mohamed
The most comprehensive text is  MPLS Enabled Applications by Ina Minei

http://www.amazon.com/MPLS-Enabled-Applications-Developments-Technologies-Communications/dp/0470986441/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293194786&sr=8-1


On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Michael Helmeste  wrote:

>  Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all
> associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)?
>
>  I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from
> A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how
> someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points.
>
>  Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject
> would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the
> concepts are there.
>
>  Regards,
>Michael H.
>
>
>


-- 
Best Regards,
Mounir Mohamed, CCIE#19573 (R&S/SP)
Senior Network Engineer, Core Team.
NOOR Data Networks, SAE
Mobile# +2-010-2345-956
http://mounirmohamed.wordpress.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/mounirmohamed


Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?

2010-12-23 Thread Michael Helmeste
Thanks for the suggestions, all! Looks like I have some reading to do.

On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 18:49:46 -0500
Dan Snyder  wrote:

> 
> 
> On Dec 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Michael Helmeste  wrote:
> 
> >  Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all 
> > associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)?
> > 
> >  I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from
> > A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how 
> > someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points.
> > 
> >  Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject 
> > would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the 
> > concepts are there.
> > 
> >  Regards,
> >Michael H.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Designing and Implementing IP/MPLS-Based Ethernet Layer 2 VPN Services: An 
> Advanced Guide for VPLS and VLL (Paperback)
> Zhuo Xu
> 
> I thought was pretty good.




RE: Good MPLS/VPLS book?

2010-12-23 Thread Brandon Kim

Looks like a good book to add to my bookshelf. Cisco's MPLS fundamentals is 
also a good book although I'm only halfway through it






> From: sfou...@shortestpathfirst.net
> To: mhelm...@uvic.ca; nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: RE: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 18:06:03 -0500
> 
> IMO the best book on the market is 'MPLS-Enabled Applications' by Ina Minei,
> Julian Lucek.  It has the best coverage all the things you mentioned plus
> VPLS, P2MP LSP, draft-rosen and NG-VPN multicast architectures and the
> explanations are clear and concise.
> 
> I wrote a review of this book a while back:
> 
> http://www.shortestpathfirst.net/2009/11/30/book-review-mpls-aplications/
> 
> This book is awesome.  You won't regret buying it.
> 
> Stefan Fouant
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael Helmeste [mailto:mhelm...@uvic.ca]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 5:49 PM
> > To: nanog@nanog.org
> > Subject: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
> > 
> >Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all
> > associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)?
> > 
> >I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit
> > from
> > A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how
> > someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points.
> > 
> >Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this
> > subject would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as
> > long
> > as the concepts are there.
> > 
> >Regards,
> >  Michael H.
> > 
> 
> 
> 
  

Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?

2010-12-23 Thread Dan Snyder


On Dec 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Michael Helmeste  wrote:

>  Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all 
> associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)?
> 
>  I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from
> A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how 
> someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points.
> 
>  Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject 
> would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the 
> concepts are there.
> 
>  Regards,
>Michael H.
> 
> 

Designing and Implementing IP/MPLS-Based Ethernet Layer 2 VPN Services: An 
Advanced Guide for VPLS and VLL (Paperback)
Zhuo Xu

I thought was pretty good.

RE: Good MPLS/VPLS book?

2010-12-23 Thread Stefan Fouant
IMO the best book on the market is 'MPLS-Enabled Applications' by Ina Minei,
Julian Lucek.  It has the best coverage all the things you mentioned plus
VPLS, P2MP LSP, draft-rosen and NG-VPN multicast architectures and the
explanations are clear and concise.

I wrote a review of this book a while back:

http://www.shortestpathfirst.net/2009/11/30/book-review-mpls-aplications/

This book is awesome.  You won't regret buying it.

Stefan Fouant

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Helmeste [mailto:mhelm...@uvic.ca]
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 5:49 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
> 
>Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all
> associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)?
> 
>I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit
> from
> A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how
> someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points.
> 
>Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this
> subject would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as
> long
> as the concepts are there.
> 
>Regards,
>  Michael H.
> 





Re: Good MPLS/VPLS book?

2010-12-23 Thread Jason Lixfeld
While on a MPLS related TAC case recently, I was speaking to an engineer who 
helped vet portions of Cisco Press' MPLS Fundamentals 
(http://www.ciscopress.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=1587051974).  He said 
it's one of the best he's come across, but there may perhaps be some bias there 
;)  Not knowing any better, I picked it up and I'm learning quite a bit.  It's 
also seems to be a great reference manual to keep around too.  The Kindle 
version is handy for quick reference from mobile devices too.

On 2010-12-23, at 5:49 PM, Michael Helmeste wrote:

>  Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all 
> associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)?
> 
>  I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from
> A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how 
> someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points.
> 
>  Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this subject 
> would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long as the 
> concepts are there.
> 
>  Regards,
>Michael H.
> 
> 




Good MPLS/VPLS book?

2010-12-23 Thread Michael Helmeste
  Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all 
associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)?


  I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from
A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how 
someone would, say, create a multicast capable VPN with 5 edge points.


  Any pointers to a good way to reduce my level of ignorance on this 
subject would be appreciated. Vendor literature doesn't bother me as long 
as the concepts are there.


  Regards,
Michael H.