Is there list of IXPs (containing the information of the AS# of the IXP)

2014-12-22 Thread Song Li

Hi everyone,

I'm searching for a list of IXPS which contains the information of the 
ASN of the IXP. Some resources are good:


https://prefix.pch.net/applications/ixpdir/?show_active_only=0sort=trafficorder=desc
https://www.telegeography.com/products/internet-exchange-directory/profiles-by-name/index.html

but they do not contain the AS# of the IXP. Can anybody help me?

Thanks!

Best!

--
Song Li
Room 4-204, FIT Building,
Network Security,
Department of Electronic Engineering,
Tsinghua University, Beijing 100084, China
Tel:( +86) 010-62446440
E-mail: refresh.ls...@gmail.com


Re: Is there list of IXPs (containing the information of the AS# of the IXP)

2014-12-22 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2014-12-22 14:30, Song Li wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 I'm searching for a list of IXPS which contains the information of the
 ASN of the IXP. Some resources are good:
 
 https://prefix.pch.net/applications/ixpdir/?show_active_only=0sort=trafficorder=desc
 
 https://www.telegeography.com/products/internet-exchange-directory/profiles-by-name/index.html
 
 
 but they do not contain the AS# of the IXP. Can anybody help me?

IXs themselves do not have ASNs, as they are Layer 2 providers.

The prefixes used for the peering fabric might be part of some ASN
though (eg AMS-IX uses 1200).

Check http://www.peeringdb.com for most likely the info you are really
looking for.

Greets,
 Jeroen



Re: Is there list of IXPs (containing the information of the AS# of the IXP)

2014-12-22 Thread Randy Bush
 I'm searching for a list of IXPS which contains the information of the 
 ASN of the IXP.

the best source is https://www.peeringdb.com/

[ i was amused to find CIX (http://www.cix.org/, the one which used to be
  in the bay) still in my ix bookmarks. ]

randy


Re: Is there list of IXPs (containing the information of the AS# of the IXP)

2014-12-22 Thread Niels Bakker
I'm searching for a list of IXPS which contains the information of 
the ASN of the IXP.


* ra...@psg.com (Randy Bush) [Mon 22 Dec 2014, 14:54 CET]:

the best source is https://www.peeringdb.com/


It's not.  Let's take an example, AMS-IX: 
https://www.peeringdb.com/private/exchange_view.php?id=26
That record doesn't say AS1200 anywhere.  You'll have to search for 
Amsterdam Internet Exchange to find AS1200; a search for AMS-IX 
will lead you only to its route server ASN.  There is no way to filter 
participants by IXP as Network Type doesn't offer that option.


Euro-IX will give you most serious IXPs globally.  For example, 
https://www.euro-ix.net/ixps/2-AMS-IX#network is AMS-IX's entry 
and it lists all pertinent information.



-- Niels.


Re: Is there list of IXPs (containing the information of the AS# of the IXP)

2014-12-22 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 22/12/2014 13:50, Jeroen Massar wrote:
 IXs themselves do not have ASNs, as they are Layer 2 providers.

most modern IXPs will have an ASN for their route server, and possibly a
separate asn for their mgmt infrastructure.

Not sure how useful the mgmt ASN is, although most IXPs will paradoxically
include this on their list of members.

Nick




Re: Is there list of IXPs (containing the information of the AS# of the IXP)

2014-12-22 Thread Song Li

在 2014/12/22 22:26, Nick Hilliard 写道:

On 22/12/2014 13:50, Jeroen Massar wrote:

IXs themselves do not have ASNs, as they are Layer 2 providers.


most modern IXPs will have an ASN for their route server, and possibly a
separate asn for their mgmt infrastructure.

Not sure how useful the mgmt ASN is, although most IXPs will paradoxically
include this on their list of members.

Nick



Thanks for your help!

I studied all the AS-Path in the routing table (from routeviews and 
RIPE), and found that some ASN of IXPs were included in some AS-Path. I 
think that under normal circumstances they should not appear in the 
AS-Path, hence i want to filter out them.


Best!
--
Song Li
Room 4-204, FIT Building,
Network Security,
Department of Electronic Engineering,
Tsinghua University, Beijing 100084, China
Tel:( +86) 010-62446440
E-mail: refresh.ls...@gmail.com


Re: Is there list of IXPs (containing the information of the AS# of the IXP)

2014-12-22 Thread Niels Bakker

* n...@foobar.org (Nick Hilliard) [Mon 22 Dec 2014, 15:28 CET]:
Not sure how useful the mgmt ASN is, although most IXPs will 
paradoxically include this on their list of members.


As long as they don't count it for their total connected parties
statistics, I'm good with it being included in the list, to help
people find missing or since-disconnected peers at the IXP in an
automated fashion.


-- Niels.


Re: Is there list of IXPs (containing the information of the AS# of the IXP)

2014-12-22 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2014-12-22 15:45, Song Li wrote:
 在 2014/12/22 22:26, Nick Hilliard 写道:
 On 22/12/2014 13:50, Jeroen Massar wrote:
 IXs themselves do not have ASNs, as they are Layer 2 providers.

 most modern IXPs will have an ASN for their route server, and possibly a
 separate asn for their mgmt infrastructure.

 Not sure how useful the mgmt ASN is, although most IXPs will
 paradoxically
 include this on their list of members.

 Nick


 Thanks for your help!
 
 I studied all the AS-Path in the routing table (from routeviews and
 RIPE), and found that some ASN of IXPs were included in some AS-Path.

You are likely seeing IP addresses from the peering LAN, which typically
have addresses that are under the ASN from an IX.

Quite a few IXes state that the peering prefixes should not be announced
world-wide.

 I think that under normal circumstances they should not appear in the
 AS-Path, hence i want to filter out them.

Filtering them out will have fun results when a valid ICMP is being
returned. Something about Packet Too Big...

What is the reason for thinking you need to filter these?

Greets,
 Jeroen