Re: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream

[Andrew Conrad]

Looks like the network diagram was updated and they ended up with just 2x 10Gb 
circuits from Wave. I guess the 100Gb connections and redundant carriers fell 
through?

--Andrew 


> On Jun 4, 2017, at 5:33 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Doesn't cost a lot to use the regional shelf spares stocked by Juniper for
> a couple of days...
> 
> On Jun 4, 2017 4:03 PM, "James Breeden" <ja...@arenalgroup.co> wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, I was wondering about that 4x100G. is that a necessity or a "because
>> we can" move?
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Dugas
>> Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 4:35 PM
>> To: Aaron Gould <aar...@gvtc.com>
>> Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
>> Subject: RE: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream
>> 
>> And the 4x100G. That's four times the capacity of the network I work for.
>> ~100k subs.
>> 
>>> On Jun 2, 2017 16:54, "Aaron Gould" <aar...@gvtc.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Btw
>>> 
>>> Wow, a ~2 million dollar boundary (dual PTX1000's) for the NANOG 70
>>> conference geez
>>> 
>>> -aaron
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
>>> Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:43 PM
>>> To: nanog@nanog.org list <nanog@nanog.org>
>>> Subject: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream
>>> 
>>> Just a small thing, but as one of the folks who used to work on the
>>> core network gear of AS11404, the network diagram has something in it
>>> that might confuse attendees as to who is really sponsoring the upstream:
>>> 
>>> https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog70/diagram
>>> 
>>> AS11404 was formerly known as Spectrum Networks, acquired in 2013 by
>>> Wavedivision Holdings LLC (Wave Broadband) and became the backbone of
>>> the Wave network. It's a totally different thing than the Charter
>>> service which is trademarked as as Spectrum.
>>> 
>>> https://www.peeringdb.com/asn/11404
>>> 
>>> The logo in the right side bubble there shouldn't be the
>>> Charter/Spectrum trademarked font, but rather should be Wave, who
>>> built the dark fiber into the hotel and are providing the upstream.
>>> The last mile fiber into the hotel is Wave.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Eric
>>> 
>>> 
>> 

Re: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream

[Dave Temkin]

Yes, frankly, it doesn't cost us (NANOG) anything - the sponsors like to do
it for the "cool" factor, and so long as it's not an undue burden on us,
they can throw as much bandwidth at us as they'd like.

-Dave

On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 4:02 PM, James Breeden <ja...@arenalgroup.co> wrote:

> Yeah, I was wondering about that 4x100G. is that a necessity or a "because
> we can" move?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Dugas
> Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 4:35 PM
> To: Aaron Gould <aar...@gvtc.com>
> Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
> Subject: RE: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream
>
> And the 4x100G. That's four times the capacity of the network I work for.
> ~100k subs.
>
> On Jun 2, 2017 16:54, "Aaron Gould" <aar...@gvtc.com> wrote:
>
> > Btw
> >
> > Wow, a ~2 million dollar boundary (dual PTX1000's) for the NANOG 70
> > conference geez
> >
> > -aaron
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
> > Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:43 PM
> > To: nanog@nanog.org list <nanog@nanog.org>
> > Subject: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream
> >
> > Just a small thing, but as one of the folks who used to work on the
> > core network gear of AS11404, the network diagram has something in it
> > that might confuse attendees as to who is really sponsoring the upstream:
> >
> > https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog70/diagram
> >
> > AS11404 was formerly known as Spectrum Networks, acquired in 2013 by
> > Wavedivision Holdings LLC (Wave Broadband) and became the backbone of
> > the Wave network. It's a totally different thing than the Charter
> > service which is trademarked as as Spectrum.
> >
> > https://www.peeringdb.com/asn/11404
> >
> > The logo in the right side bubble there shouldn't be the
> > Charter/Spectrum trademarked font, but rather should be Wave, who
> > built the dark fiber into the hotel and are providing the upstream.
> > The last mile fiber into the hotel is Wave.
> >
> >
> > -Eric
> >
> >
>

RE: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream

[Eric Kuhnke]

Doesn't cost a lot to use the regional shelf spares stocked by Juniper for
a couple of days...

On Jun 4, 2017 4:03 PM, "James Breeden" <ja...@arenalgroup.co> wrote:

> Yeah, I was wondering about that 4x100G. is that a necessity or a "because
> we can" move?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Dugas
> Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 4:35 PM
> To: Aaron Gould <aar...@gvtc.com>
> Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
> Subject: RE: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream
>
> And the 4x100G. That's four times the capacity of the network I work for.
> ~100k subs.
>
> On Jun 2, 2017 16:54, "Aaron Gould" <aar...@gvtc.com> wrote:
>
> > Btw
> >
> > Wow, a ~2 million dollar boundary (dual PTX1000's) for the NANOG 70
> > conference geez
> >
> > -aaron
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
> > Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:43 PM
> > To: nanog@nanog.org list <nanog@nanog.org>
> > Subject: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream
> >
> > Just a small thing, but as one of the folks who used to work on the
> > core network gear of AS11404, the network diagram has something in it
> > that might confuse attendees as to who is really sponsoring the upstream:
> >
> > https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog70/diagram
> >
> > AS11404 was formerly known as Spectrum Networks, acquired in 2013 by
> > Wavedivision Holdings LLC (Wave Broadband) and became the backbone of
> > the Wave network. It's a totally different thing than the Charter
> > service which is trademarked as as Spectrum.
> >
> > https://www.peeringdb.com/asn/11404
> >
> > The logo in the right side bubble there shouldn't be the
> > Charter/Spectrum trademarked font, but rather should be Wave, who
> > built the dark fiber into the hotel and are providing the upstream.
> > The last mile fiber into the hotel is Wave.
> >
> >
> > -Eric
> >
> >
>

RE: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream

[James Breeden]

Yeah, I was wondering about that 4x100G. is that a necessity or a "because we 
can" move?


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Dugas
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 4:35 PM
To: Aaron Gould <aar...@gvtc.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: RE: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream

And the 4x100G. That's four times the capacity of the network I work for.
~100k subs.

On Jun 2, 2017 16:54, "Aaron Gould" <aar...@gvtc.com> wrote:

> Btw
>
> Wow, a ~2 million dollar boundary (dual PTX1000's) for the NANOG 70 
> conference geez
>
> -aaron
>
> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
> Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:43 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org list <nanog@nanog.org>
> Subject: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream
>
> Just a small thing, but as one of the folks who used to work on the 
> core network gear of AS11404, the network diagram has something in it 
> that might confuse attendees as to who is really sponsoring the upstream:
>
> https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog70/diagram
>
> AS11404 was formerly known as Spectrum Networks, acquired in 2013 by 
> Wavedivision Holdings LLC (Wave Broadband) and became the backbone of 
> the Wave network. It's a totally different thing than the Charter 
> service which is trademarked as as Spectrum.
>
> https://www.peeringdb.com/asn/11404
>
> The logo in the right side bubble there shouldn't be the 
> Charter/Spectrum trademarked font, but rather should be Wave, who 
> built the dark fiber into the hotel and are providing the upstream. 
> The last mile fiber into the hotel is Wave.
>
>
> -Eric
>
>

Re: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream

[Jared Mauch]

> On Jun 2, 2017, at 5:34 PM, Eric Dugas  wrote:
> 
> And the 4x100G. That's four times the capacity of the network I work for.
> ~100k subs.

Disclaimer: Not an employee of NTT, but I was last Bellevue NANOG.

Last time in Bellevue with the Comcast (dark) and Wave (dim) fiber we had 220G 
with diverse building entrances.  Many people made fun of me for the overkill.  
It peaked at 1.1Gb/s as WWDC was at the same time and at least one person 
plugged in to the wired station to download the latest developer tools.

WWDC overlaps this time as well, and I believe there will be some additional 
wired ports available, so bring your thunderbolt and USB to Ethernet adapters. 
:-)

- Jared

RE: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream

[Eric Dugas]

And the 4x100G. That's four times the capacity of the network I work for.
~100k subs.

On Jun 2, 2017 16:54, "Aaron Gould" <aar...@gvtc.com> wrote:

> Btw
>
> Wow, a ~2 million dollar boundary (dual PTX1000's) for the NANOG 70
> conference geez
>
> -aaron
>
> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
> Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:43 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org list <nanog@nanog.org>
> Subject: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream
>
> Just a small thing, but as one of the folks who used to work on the core
> network gear of AS11404, the network diagram has something in it that might
> confuse attendees as to who is really sponsoring the upstream:
>
> https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog70/diagram
>
> AS11404 was formerly known as Spectrum Networks, acquired in 2013 by
> Wavedivision Holdings LLC (Wave Broadband) and became the backbone of the
> Wave network. It's a totally different thing than the Charter service which
> is trademarked as as Spectrum.
>
> https://www.peeringdb.com/asn/11404
>
> The logo in the right side bubble there shouldn't be the Charter/Spectrum
> trademarked font, but rather should be Wave, who built the dark fiber into
> the hotel and are providing the upstream. The last mile fiber into the
> hotel is Wave.
>
>
> -Eric
>
>

RE: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream

[Aaron Gould]

Btw

Wow, a ~2 million dollar boundary (dual PTX1000's) for the NANOG 70 
conference geez

-aaron

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:43 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org list <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream

Just a small thing, but as one of the folks who used to work on the core 
network gear of AS11404, the network diagram has something in it that might 
confuse attendees as to who is really sponsoring the upstream:

https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog70/diagram

AS11404 was formerly known as Spectrum Networks, acquired in 2013 by 
Wavedivision Holdings LLC (Wave Broadband) and became the backbone of the Wave 
network. It's a totally different thing than the Charter service which is 
trademarked as as Spectrum.

https://www.peeringdb.com/asn/11404

The logo in the right side bubble there shouldn't be the Charter/Spectrum 
trademarked font, but rather should be Wave, who built the dark fiber into the 
hotel and are providing the upstream. The last mile fiber into the hotel is 
Wave.


-Eric

NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream

[Eric Kuhnke]

Just a small thing, but as one of the folks who used to work on the core
network gear of AS11404, the network diagram has something in it that might
confuse attendees as to who is really sponsoring the upstream:

https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog70/diagram

AS11404 was formerly known as Spectrum Networks, acquired in 2013 by
Wavedivision Holdings LLC (Wave Broadband) and became the backbone of the
Wave network. It's a totally different thing than the Charter service which
is trademarked as as Spectrum.

https://www.peeringdb.com/asn/11404

The logo in the right side bubble there shouldn't be the Charter/Spectrum
trademarked font, but rather should be Wave, who built the dark fiber into
the hotel and are providing the upstream. The last mile fiber into the
hotel is Wave.


-Eric