Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)
Looks like it is still going on. you can make this stuff up: Obama always goes reckless in words and deeds like a monkey in a tropical forest, http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/12/north-korea-suffers-another-internet-outage-hurls-racial-slur-at-pres-obama/ On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Keith Medcalf kmedc...@dessus.com wrote: What would be the point in blocking them? They don't even have electricity in the country, what would I worry about coming out of their IP block that wouldn't be more interesting than dangerous. Pretty obvious if it was really them behind the Sony hack, it was outsourced. For the few elite that do have Internet in DPRK it would be 1) a big inconvenience which would annoy them a lot and 2) they have to transmit what they want attacked to the outsourced crew (whoever they might be) somehow. I doubt the outsourced group has a fax#. I am pretty sure that they have fax machines in Washington Dee Cee. --- Theory is when you know everything but nothing works. Practice is when everything works but no one knows why. Sometimes theory and practice are combined: nothing works and no one knows why.
Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)
CCC would not do anything pro-NK. On 27 December 2014 at 19:49, Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us wrote: Looks like it is still going on. you can make this stuff up: Obama always goes reckless in words and deeds like a monkey in a tropical forest, http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/12/north-korea-suffers-another-internet-outage-hurls-racial-slur-at-pres-obama/ On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Keith Medcalf kmedc...@dessus.com wrote: What would be the point in blocking them? They don't even have electricity in the country, what would I worry about coming out of their IP block that wouldn't be more interesting than dangerous. Pretty obvious if it was really them behind the Sony hack, it was outsourced. For the few elite that do have Internet in DPRK it would be 1) a big inconvenience which would annoy them a lot and 2) they have to transmit what they want attacked to the outsourced crew (whoever they might be) somehow. I doubt the outsourced group has a fax#. I am pretty sure that they have fax machines in Washington Dee Cee. --- Theory is when you know everything but nothing works. Practice is when everything works but no one knows why. Sometimes theory and practice are combined: nothing works and no one knows why. -- BaconZombie 55:55:44:44:4C:52:4C:52:42:41 LOAD *,8,1
Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)
You have listened Fox news for too long, being convinced that US are the good, and any others are evil. Dont you? Le 23 déc. 2014 à 21:00, Landon Stewart landonstew...@gmail.com a écrit : For the few elite that do have Internet in DPRK it would be 1) a big inconvenience which would annoy them a lot and 2) they have to transmit what they want attacked to the outsourced crew (whoever they might be) somehow. I doubt the outsourced group has a fax#.
Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)
On 12/22/14 20:16, Javier J wrote: But I can ping them. https://nknetobserver.github.io/ And what would it matter if its offline, they already block their population. What exactly is offline? I seem to recall that they also had some space on a Japanese network. I can't hit the Naenara website, which is the DPRK intranet-- that might be what they're talking about. -Sam
RE: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)
What would be the point in blocking them? They don't even have electricity in the country, what would I worry about coming out of their IP block that wouldn't be more interesting than dangerous. Pretty obvious if it was really them behind the Sony hack, it was outsourced. For the few elite that do have Internet in DPRK it would be 1) a big inconvenience which would annoy them a lot and 2) they have to transmit what they want attacked to the outsourced crew (whoever they might be) somehow. I doubt the outsourced group has a fax#. I am pretty sure that they have fax machines in Washington Dee Cee. --- Theory is when you know everything but nothing works. Practice is when everything works but no one knows why. Sometimes theory and practice are combined: nothing works and no one knows why.
Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:02 AM, Marshall Eubanks marshall.euba...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us wrote: But I can ping them. https://nknetobserver.github.io/ And what would it matter if its offline, they already block their population. What exactly is offline? The Kim of the moment, the elite, a few journalists, and the like. And, assuming they actually did the exploit in country and didn't outsource it to the Chaos Computer Club (or whomever), their crack team of Sony takedown hackers. There is a separate, inside DPRK only, network for the hoi polloi. Regards Marshall On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Valdis Kletnieks valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: Any of you guys want to fess up? :) http://www.msnbc.com/the-ed-show/watch/north-koreas-internet-goes-dark-376097859903 (Yes, I know, they're saying it's a DDoS, not a routing hack...) The DPRK Internet is apparently back. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30584093 I suspect its absence was much more interesting that its presence will be. I am reminded that the Chaos Computer Club has done a lot of good work for electronic freedom. I was remembering events (perhaps unfairly) from decades ago, did not mean to cast any aspersions on their current activities, and am sorry if that offended anyone. Regards Marshall Eubanks
Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Valdis Kletnieks valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: Any of you guys want to fess up? :) http://www.msnbc.com/the-ed-show/watch/north-koreas-internet-goes-dark-376097859903 (Yes, I know, they're saying it's a DDoS, not a routing hack...) I was hoping that everyone just put 175.45.176.0/22 in their bogon list. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474
Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)
Why you suggest it? On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Joe Hamelin j...@nethead.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Valdis Kletnieks valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: Any of you guys want to fess up? :) http://www.msnbc.com/the-ed-show/watch/north-koreas-internet-goes-dark-376097859903 (Yes, I know, they're saying it's a DDoS, not a routing hack...) I was hoping that everyone just put 175.45.176.0/22 in their bogon list. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474 -- Sincerely yours, Pavel Odintsov
Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)
What would be the point in blocking them? They don't even have electricity in the country, what would I worry about coming out of their IP block that wouldn't be more interesting than dangerous. Pretty obvious if it was really them behind the Sony hack, it was outsourced. http://www.standupamericaus.org/sua/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/North-Korea-at-night.jpg On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Joe Hamelin j...@nethead.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Valdis Kletnieks valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: Any of you guys want to fess up? :) http://www.msnbc.com/the-ed-show/watch/north-koreas-internet-goes-dark-376097859903 (Yes, I know, they're saying it's a DDoS, not a routing hack...) I was hoping that everyone just put 175.45.176.0/22 in their bogon list. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474
Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)
On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us wrote: What would be the point in blocking them? They don't even have electricity in the country, what would I worry about coming out of their IP block that wouldn't be more interesting than dangerous. Pretty obvious if it was really them behind the Sony hack, it was outsourced. For the few elite that do have Internet in DPRK it would be 1) a big inconvenience which would annoy them a lot and 2) they have to transmit what they want attacked to the outsourced crew (whoever they might be) somehow. I doubt the outsourced group has a fax#. signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)
I was hoping that everyone just put 175.45.176.0/22 in their bogon list. why? is it something despicable such as the dee cee propaganda engine? randy
Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)
On 12/23/14 12:40 PM, Randy Bush wrote: I was hoping that everyone just put 175.45.176.0/22 in their bogon list. why? is it something despicable such as the dee cee propaganda engine? Because poorly targeted prefix filtering works so well for spam and ddos... except that it doesn't. randy signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)
Any of you guys want to fess up? :) http://www.msnbc.com/the-ed-show/watch/north-koreas-internet-goes-dark-376097859903 (Yes, I know, they're saying it's a DDoS, not a routing hack...) pgpz1qIjaFxGM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)
But I can ping them. https://nknetobserver.github.io/ And what would it matter if its offline, they already block their population. What exactly is offline? On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Valdis Kletnieks valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: Any of you guys want to fess up? :) http://www.msnbc.com/the-ed-show/watch/north-koreas-internet-goes-dark-376097859903 (Yes, I know, they're saying it's a DDoS, not a routing hack...)
Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Javier J jav...@advancedmachines.us wrote: But I can ping them. https://nknetobserver.github.io/ And what would it matter if its offline, they already block their population. What exactly is offline? The Kim of the moment, the elite, a few journalists, and the like. And, assuming they actually did the exploit in country and didn't outsource it to the Chaos Computer Club (or whomever), their crack team of Sony takedown hackers. There is a separate, inside DPRK only, network for the hoi polloi. Regards Marshall On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Valdis Kletnieks valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: Any of you guys want to fess up? :) http://www.msnbc.com/the-ed-show/watch/north-koreas-internet-goes-dark-376097859903 (Yes, I know, they're saying it's a DDoS, not a routing hack...)
