Re: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident

2010-06-28 Thread Randy Bush
you may find http://archive.psg.com/jsac-deag.pdf of interest

randy



Re: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident

2010-06-28 Thread Richard Barnes
So, as periodically happens to me, what started as an idle curiosity
turned into an experiment.  I took a look at a RIB snapshot from
Friday, from one of the RouteViews collectors, to see how common it is
that a block gets advertised by two different ASes, as a whole block
by one, and as a set of smaller blocks by the other.

It turns out there's a non-trivial amount out there -- 490 blocks
broken up, adding 1,815 prefixes announced, accounting for 19,623 RIB
entries.  More details below; let me know if you're interested in even
more.  Seems kind of interesting, as a form of deaggregation that
doesn't show up in things like the CIDR report (since it's not within
a single AS).

(Standard caveats apply: This is a quick pass, not controlled for
things like two ASes belonging to the same entity.)

--Richard


Total number of deaggregated prefixes: 490
Total additional prefixes advertised: 1815
Total additional RIB entries: 19623 (0.5% out of 3530845 total entries)
Total addresses affected: 78863360 (roughly 1,203 /16s)

Extremal points:

1. Largest deaggregated block: 17.0.0.0/8, advertised by AS7018
(AT&T), deaggregated into two /9s by AS714 (Apple Engineering)

2. Most fractured block: 58.140.0.0/14, advertised by AS3786 (LG
DACOM, KR), deaggregated into 69 prefixes (ranging from /17 to /24) by
AS10036 (C&M Communication, KR).


Distribution of the number of additional prefixes:
Prefixes   Count
   2343
   3 13
   4 80
   5  5
   6  1
   7  4
   8 17
   9  5
  10  1
  11  1
  14  1
  15  1
  16  6
  17  1
  20  2
  32  7
  34  1
  69  1

Distribution of prefix lengths deaggregated:
Len   Count
 8  1
11  1
12  3
13  9
14 17
15 22
16 47
17 25
18 29
19 65
20 52
21 56
22 69
23 92
24  2

Distribution of the number of addresses affected:
Addresses Count
 512 2
102492
204869
409656
819252
   1638465
   3276829
   6553625
  13107247
  26214422
  52428817
 1048576 9
 2097152 3
 4194304 1
33554432 1



Re: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident

2010-06-25 Thread joel jaeggli

just fyi,

identifying the prefix in question and the origin AS will likely result 
in a lot more potentially useful eyeballs looking at including those 
that can take action.


joel

On 2010-06-24 12:37, Eric Williams wrote:

AT&T is currently advertising my address space to the internet
accidentally via BGP which they should not be.  Since they are advertising
my address space on accident, we are dead in the water.  Does anybody out
there work for ATT or know of the number I can call in order to have them
stop advertising my /22 ASAP






Re: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident

2010-06-25 Thread Larry Blunk


  Looks like the prefix in question is 208.91.48.0/22
and it was briefly announced by 7018 yesterday, but
that announcement seems to be gone now.   I see 11734
is announcing 208.91.48.0/22 + 208.91.48.0/24 now,
but not 208.91.49.0/24 - 208.91.51.0/24.




On 06/25/2010 10:17 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Dennis Burgess
  wrote:
   

Have you found a contact at ATT to get this stopped?
 

I'm fairly certain JayB at least reads nanog... the OP didn't mention
if this was 7018, 7132 or the ATT_ENS AS with the route though :(

   

-Original Message-
From: Eric Williams [mailto:ewilli...@connectria.com]
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 8:56 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident

This issue has been resolved by breaking up the /22 into /24's.  Thanks
to all for the advise.

Maybe next time I will take someone's advise and advertise one of ATT's
/8's.





From:
Eric Williams/Connectria
To:
nanog@nanog.org
Date:
06/24/2010 02:37 PM
Subject:
ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident


AT&T is currently advertising my address space to the internet
accidentally via BGP which they should not be.  Since they are
advertising
my address space on accident, we are dead in the water.  Does anybody
out
there work for ATT or know of the number I can call in order to have
them
stop advertising my /22 ASAP



 
   





Re: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident

2010-06-25 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Dennis Burgess
 wrote:
> Have you found a contact at ATT to get this stopped?

I'm fairly certain JayB at least reads nanog... the OP didn't mention
if this was 7018, 7132 or the ATT_ENS AS with the route though :(

> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Williams [mailto:ewilli...@connectria.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 8:56 AM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident
>
> This issue has been resolved by breaking up the /22 into /24's.  Thanks
> to all for the advise.
>
> Maybe next time I will take someone's advise and advertise one of ATT's
> /8's.
>
>
>
>
>
> From:
> Eric Williams/Connectria
> To:
> nanog@nanog.org
> Date:
> 06/24/2010 02:37 PM
> Subject:
> ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident
>
>
> AT&T is currently advertising my address space to the internet
> accidentally via BGP which they should not be.  Since they are
> advertising
> my address space on accident, we are dead in the water.  Does anybody
> out
> there work for ATT or know of the number I can call in order to have
> them
> stop advertising my /22 ASAP
>
>
>



RE: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident

2010-06-25 Thread Dennis Burgess
Have you found a contact at ATT to get this stopped? 

---
Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer 
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of "Learn RouterOS"


-Original Message-
From: Eric Williams [mailto:ewilli...@connectria.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 8:56 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident

This issue has been resolved by breaking up the /22 into /24's.  Thanks
to all for the advise.

Maybe next time I will take someone's advise and advertise one of ATT's
/8's.





From:
Eric Williams/Connectria
To:
nanog@nanog.org
Date:
06/24/2010 02:37 PM
Subject:
ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident


AT&T is currently advertising my address space to the internet 
accidentally via BGP which they should not be.  Since they are
advertising 
my address space on accident, we are dead in the water.  Does anybody
out 
there work for ATT or know of the number I can call in order to have
them 
stop advertising my /22 ASAP




Re: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident

2010-06-25 Thread Richard Barnes
I wonder how much of the de-aggregation in the routing table is
attributable to issues like this?


On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Eric Williams  wrote:
> This issue has been resolved by breaking up the /22 into /24's.  Thanks to
> all for the advise.
>
> Maybe next time I will take someone's advise and advertise one of ATT's
> /8's.
>
>
>
>
>
> From:
> Eric Williams/Connectria
> To:
> nanog@nanog.org
> Date:
> 06/24/2010 02:37 PM
> Subject:
> ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident
>
>
> AT&T is currently advertising my address space to the internet
> accidentally via BGP which they should not be.  Since they are advertising
> my address space on accident, we are dead in the water.  Does anybody out
> there work for ATT or know of the number I can call in order to have them
> stop advertising my /22 ASAP
>
>



Re: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident

2010-06-25 Thread Eric Williams
This issue has been resolved by breaking up the /22 into /24's.  Thanks to 
all for the advise.

Maybe next time I will take someone's advise and advertise one of ATT's 
/8's.





From:
Eric Williams/Connectria
To:
nanog@nanog.org
Date:
06/24/2010 02:37 PM
Subject:
ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident


AT&T is currently advertising my address space to the internet 
accidentally via BGP which they should not be.  Since they are advertising 
my address space on accident, we are dead in the water.  Does anybody out 
there work for ATT or know of the number I can call in order to have them 
stop advertising my /22 ASAP