RE: What's up at AOL?

2014-01-02 Thread Frank Bulk
We saw noticeable AOL email delivery issues on the 26th and 27th, but not
since then.  I saw nothing queued up New Year's Eve or New Year's Day.
Today we saw a very few delivery delays, but that cleared up by 2:45 pm
Central.  The message we get is:
Site aol.com () said after data sent: 421 4.2.1 "Service
unavailable. Please try again later."

Frank

P.S. I'd encourage folk to join the mailop listserv
(http://chilli.nosignal.org/mailman/listinfo/mailop) if they want to stay
abreast of such issues (note that the listserv tries its hardest to avoid
mail abuse issues, encouraging those folk to discuss those topics in avenues
that specialize in them).  I can't say that the mailop listserv has email
admins for all the major freemail providers (if they do, they're lurking),
but there's a reasonably sized community of ISPs and dotcom companies.

-Original Message-
From: Nick Olsen [mailto:n...@flhsi.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 12:24 PM
To: Barry Shein; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: re: What's up at AOL?

We're seeing mail backup toward AOL as well. All coming back Service 
Unavailable.

postmas...@aol.com has not responded to our inquiry yet.

Nick Olsen
 Network Operations 
(855) FLSPEED  x106


From: "Barry Shein" 
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 12:46 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: What's up at AOL?

They've been accepting email only occasionally for a few days now.

We're on FBL, check reputation is good/green.

Sometimes we get DYN:T2 (according to AOL that's their code for it's
our, AOL's, problem), sometimes just various forms of try later,
Service not available, deferred, etc. typically after the DATA is sent
so MAIL FROM and RCPT TO are ok or no error.

I did get one response from postmas...@aol.com which said it was all
fixed yesterday which it was for several hours and today thousands of
msgs backed up for them again.

I am just asking if anyone knows what's going on even in general
terms.

That is, should we stop fussing with this (everyone's hosed w/ AOL
this week?) or is it just us?

-- 
-Barry Shein

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Re: What's up at AOL?

2014-01-02 Thread Jay Moran
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Jay Ashworth  wrote:

> Any chance this is related to the NoVa fiber outage being discussed on
> Outages?
>

Not related. With the best non-answer I can muster right now: I decided not
to reply after Peter replied. -- Jay Moran


Re: What's up at AOL?

2014-01-02 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message -
> From: "Robert L Mathews" 

> > That is, should we stop fussing with this (everyone's hosed w/ AOL
> > this week?) or is it just us?
> 
> It's probably not just you. It's been happening intermittently to many
> people since December 26. See, for example:

Any chance this is related to the NoVa fiber outage being discussed on Outages?

Cheers,
-- jra
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Re: What's up at AOL?

2014-01-02 Thread Peter Baldridge
There was a note on the mailop list Dec 27 that mentioned they were
unofficially having a malware/virus issue but not much further.

On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Robert L Mathews  wrote:
> On 1/2/14, 9:40 AM, Barry Shein wrote:
>> They've been accepting email only occasionally for a few days now.
>>
>> We're on FBL, check reputation is good/green.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> I am just asking if anyone knows what's going on even in general
>> terms.
>>
>> That is, should we stop fussing with this (everyone's hosed w/ AOL
>> this week?) or is it just us?
>
> It's probably not just you. It's been happening intermittently to many
> people since December 26. See, for example:
>
>  http://sitedown.co/aol/aol-smtp-in-appears-to-be-down
>
> And lots of recent, not-too-helpful Twitter conversations like:
>
>  https://twitter.com/TboneRyan/status/416577803752984578
>
> We saw this problem on December 26, 27, and 28, and are now seeing it
> again for the last 3 hours.
>
> --
> Robert L Mathews, Tiger Technologies, http://www.tigertech.net/
>



Re: What's up at AOL?

2014-01-02 Thread Robert L Mathews
On 1/2/14, 9:40 AM, Barry Shein wrote:
> They've been accepting email only occasionally for a few days now.
> 
> We're on FBL, check reputation is good/green.
>
> [...]
>
> I am just asking if anyone knows what's going on even in general
> terms.
> 
> That is, should we stop fussing with this (everyone's hosed w/ AOL
> this week?) or is it just us?

It's probably not just you. It's been happening intermittently to many
people since December 26. See, for example:

 http://sitedown.co/aol/aol-smtp-in-appears-to-be-down

And lots of recent, not-too-helpful Twitter conversations like:

 https://twitter.com/TboneRyan/status/416577803752984578

We saw this problem on December 26, 27, and 28, and are now seeing it
again for the last 3 hours.

-- 
Robert L Mathews, Tiger Technologies, http://www.tigertech.net/



re: What's up at AOL?

2014-01-02 Thread Nick Olsen
We're seeing mail backup toward AOL as well. All coming back Service 
Unavailable.

postmas...@aol.com has not responded to our inquiry yet.

Nick Olsen
 Network Operations 
(855) FLSPEED  x106


From: "Barry Shein" 
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 12:46 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: What's up at AOL?

They've been accepting email only occasionally for a few days now.

We're on FBL, check reputation is good/green.

Sometimes we get DYN:T2 (according to AOL that's their code for it's
our, AOL's, problem), sometimes just various forms of try later,
Service not available, deferred, etc. typically after the DATA is sent
so MAIL FROM and RCPT TO are ok or no error.

I did get one response from postmas...@aol.com which said it was all
fixed yesterday which it was for several hours and today thousands of
msgs backed up for them again.

I am just asking if anyone knows what's going on even in general
terms.

That is, should we stop fussing with this (everyone's hosed w/ AOL
this week?) or is it just us?

-- 
-Barry Shein

The World  | b...@theworld.com   | 
http://www.TheWorld.com
Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD| Dial-Up: US, PR, 
Canada
Software Tool & Die| Public Access Internet | SINCE 1989 *oo*