Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-16 Thread Owen DeLong

On Jun 15, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote:

 Seth Mattinen wrote:
 listen-on-v6 { any; };
 
 Yeah that's what I did. But I keep reading about how these big name companies 
 messed it up in some subtle or not so subtle way and I keep thinking I must 
 have missed something. Because surely those big companies can't find it that 
 difficult, can they? :-)
 

Well... You may also need to put IPv6 glue records into the upstream DNS 
servers, depending
on whether your nameservers live within the same zone or not.

Owen




Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-16 Thread Chris Grundemann
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 12:15, Schiller, Heather A
heather.schil...@verizonbusiness.com wrote:

 ...yes, there is a serious lack of v6 enabled eyeballs.  But it's also
 not clear to me from Akamai's stats just how many of the sites they host
 are v6 enabled. 2? 12? 500?

I remember it being stated that ~40 of their customers would
participate in Wv6 Day, but I obviously don't speak for Akamai and I
can't find a pointer to that info now...

~Chris


  --heather





-- 
@ChrisGrundemann
weblog.chrisgrundemann.com
www.burningwiththebush.com
www.theIPv6experts.net
www.coisoc.org



Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-15 Thread Jeroen van Aart

Octavio Alvarez wrote:

In fact. Although a website of mine worked flawlessly in a dual-stack
but it did NOT in an IPv6-only environment. Unfortunately, the problem
has to be fixed in the DNS provider, which though supporting 
records was enough to support IPv6.


Why not run your own nameserver if it is your website assuming you own 
the domain?


Out of curiosity, what are the options you need to use to properly 
enable bind for IPv6? To me it appears there isn't that much to it, it 
almost works out of the box with 1 or 2 things turned on. Then you just 
add the appropriate zone files or records. Am I missing something 
blatantly obvious that will break it?



dig -6 +trace is our friend here.


How would you apply this command to determine correct IPv6 resolving?

Thanks,
Jeroen

--
http://goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/plural-of-virus.html



Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-15 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 6/15/2011 12:14, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
 Octavio Alvarez wrote:
 In fact. Although a website of mine worked flawlessly in a dual-stack
 but it did NOT in an IPv6-only environment. Unfortunately, the problem
 has to be fixed in the DNS provider, which though supporting 
 records was enough to support IPv6.
 
 Why not run your own nameserver if it is your website assuming you own
 the domain?
 
 Out of curiosity, what are the options you need to use to properly
 enable bind for IPv6? To me it appears there isn't that much to it, it
 almost works out of the box with 1 or 2 things turned on. Then you just
 add the appropriate zone files or records. Am I missing something
 blatantly obvious that will break it?
 


listen-on-v6 { any; };

Simple as that. Indicate individual addresses, if preferred. Or switch
to a DNS provider that has made this monumental configuration effort.

~Seth



Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-15 Thread Jeroen van Aart

Seth Mattinen wrote:

listen-on-v6 { any; };


Yeah that's what I did. But I keep reading about how these big name 
companies messed it up in some subtle or not so subtle way and I keep 
thinking I must have missed something. Because surely those big 
companies can't find it that difficult, can they? :-)



Simple as that. Indicate individual addresses, if preferred. Or switch
to a DNS provider that has made this monumental configuration effort.


I'd rather have the fuzzy warm feeling of accomplishment of IPv6 
enabling my own nameserver.


Thanks,
Jeroen

--
http://goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/plural-of-virus.html



Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-15 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 6/15/2011 12:32, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
 Seth Mattinen wrote:
 listen-on-v6 { any; };
 
 Yeah that's what I did. But I keep reading about how these big name
 companies messed it up in some subtle or not so subtle way and I keep
 thinking I must have missed something. Because surely those big
 companies can't find it that difficult, can they? :-)
 
 Simple as that. Indicate individual addresses, if preferred. Or switch
 to a DNS provider that has made this monumental configuration effort.
 
 I'd rather have the fuzzy warm feeling of accomplishment of IPv6
 enabling my own nameserver.
 


I can send you a copy of my config offlist if you'd like; there's really
nothing to it and it's been going along fine for as long as I can
remember. In the simple case of answering on a v6 address I can't see
how that could go wrong unless the network it was on had other IPv6
failings.

~Seth



Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-15 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:32:09PM -0700, Jeroen van Aart 
wrote:
 Seth Mattinen wrote:
 listen-on-v6 { any; };
 
 Yeah that's what I did. But I keep reading about how these big name 
 companies messed it up in some subtle or not so subtle way and I keep 
 thinking I must have missed something. Because surely those big 
 companies can't find it that difficult, can they? :-)

But you see, those big companies didn't have a place in the Excel
spreadsheet for DNS changes to indicate an IPv6 address, so the DNS
team couldn't submit the right information to the Firewall team,
but it all doesn't matter because the network team hadn't actually
made IPv6 work yet as there was no business case.

No, I'm not cynical. :)

-- 
   Leo Bicknell - bickn...@ufp.org - CCIE 3440
PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/


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Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-15 Thread Jeroen van Aart

Leo Bicknell wrote:

but it all doesn't matter because the network team hadn't actually
made IPv6 work yet as there was no business case.


Ahhh, ok, well at least I know I did it right the first time.


No, I'm not cynical. :)


It probably reflects daily practice for many big organisations, sadly. 
Luckily I can configure dns, firewall/routing and (ipv6) networking 
myself, so no need of passing along spreadsheets (besides I really hate 
spreadsheets).


Seth Mattinen wrote:
 I can send you a copy of my config offlist if you'd like; there's really
 nothing to it and it's been going along fine for as long as I can

That won't be necessary, thanks. I think I have configured it correctly 
and created the correct IPv6 records. Just wanted to make sure.


Greetings,
Jeroen


--
http://goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/plural-of-virus.html



Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-15 Thread Mark Andrews

In message 4df91ab3.6020...@mompl.net, Jeroen van Aart writes:
 Leo Bicknell wrote:
  but it all doesn't matter because the network team hadn't actually
  made IPv6 work yet as there was no business case.
 
 Ahhh, ok, well at least I know I did it right the first time.
 
  No, I'm not cynical. :)
 
 It probably reflects daily practice for many big organisations, sadly. 
 Luckily I can configure dns, firewall/routing and (ipv6) networking 
 myself, so no need of passing along spreadsheets (besides I really hate 
 spreadsheets).
 
 Seth Mattinen wrote:
   I can send you a copy of my config offlist if you'd like; there's really
   nothing to it and it's been going along fine for as long as I can
 
 That won't be necessary, thanks. I think I have configured it correctly 
 and created the correct IPv6 records. Just wanted to make sure.
 
 Greetings,
 Jeroen
 
 
 -- 
 http://goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
 http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/plural-of-virus.html
 

You tell named to listen on IPv6 (listen-on-v6).  It already uses IPv6
to make queries unless you turned it off on the command line with named -4.
To go IPv6 only on a dual stack machine use named -6.
You add  records to the zones for the nameservers.
You update your glue records in the parent zone to include  records
as well as A records.
You add IPv6 address to resolv.conf or equivalent (DHCPv6, the new RA option).

You can mark non-local ula's as bogus and your one local ulas as good in
named.conf.

servers fc00::/7 {
bogus yes;
};
servers fdxx::::/48 {
bogus no;
};

If you are only using IPv6 internally

servers ::/0 {
bogus yes;
};
servers internal-range {
bogus no;
};

You should also be doing this at the routing level.
-- 
Mark Andrews, ISC
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org



Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-15 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 08:05:14AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote:
 You tell named to listen on IPv6 (listen-on-v6).  It already uses IPv6
 to make queries unless you turned it off on the command line with named -4.
 To go IPv6 only on a dual stack machine use named -6.
 You add  records to the zones for the nameservers.
 You update your glue records in the parent zone to include  records
 as well as A records.
 You add IPv6 address to resolv.conf or equivalent (DHCPv6, the new RA option).
 
 You can mark non-local ula's as bogus and your one local ulas as good in
 named.conf.

And you check all your ACLs and TSIG server definitions etc. because
suddenly zone transfers, DNS UPDATEs and other stuff (rndc!) might
magically use IPv6 and don't match your ACLs etc. anymore.

Best regards,
Daniel

-- 
CLUE-RIPE -- Jabber: d...@cluenet.de -- dr@IRCnet -- PGP: 0xA85C8AA0



Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-08 Thread Daniel Verlouw
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:28, Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org wrote:
 It is really nice that folks where able to put  records on their
 websites for only 24 hours, but they forgot to put in the glue on their
 nameservers.

agreed, but still better than juniper.net at the moment, glue seems to
be completely gone at ultradns :P

   --Daniel.



RE: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-08 Thread Frank Bulk
Ah...I saw the same thing at 6:01 Central.  Lost DNS resolution of
ipv6.juniper.net, and couldn't get A or NS records of juniper.net.  Had to
flush the cache on my DNS servers.

Frank

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Verlouw [mailto:dan...@shunoshu.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:10 AM
To: nanog
Subject: Re:  on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on
their nameservers

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:28, Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org wrote:
 It is really nice that folks where able to put  records on their
 websites for only 24 hours, but they forgot to put in the glue on their
 nameservers.

agreed, but still better than juniper.net at the moment, glue seems to
be completely gone at ultradns :P

   --Daniel.





Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-08 Thread Daniel Espejel
Hi.

The main objective for today is to access the web services, that's why you
can't reach a  record for a DNS query for a given NS server.


;  DiG 9.5.1-P3  www.google.com 
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 40029
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 4

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.google.com.IN

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.google.com.532907INCNAMEwww.l.google.com.
www.l.google.com.150IN2001:4860:4002:802::1010

;  DiG 9.5.1-P3  www.yahoo.com 
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 60816
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 7, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.yahoo.com.IN

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.yahoo.com.284INCNAMEfpfd.wa1.b.yahoo.com.
fpfd.wa1.b.yahoo.com.6IN2001:4998:f00c:1fe::3001
fpfd.wa1.b.yahoo.com.6IN2001:4998:f011:1fe::3001
fpfd.wa1.b.yahoo.com.6IN2001:4998:f011:1fe::3000
fpfd.wa1.b.yahoo.com.6IN2001:4998:f00d:1fe::3001
fpfd.wa1.b.yahoo.com.6IN2001:4998:f00d:1fe::3000
fpfd.wa1.b.yahoo.com.6IN2001:4998:f00c:1fe::3000
;  DiG 9.5.1-P3  www.facebook.com 
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 12079
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.facebook.com.IN

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.facebook.com.8IN2620:0:1c00:0:face:b00c:0:1



;  DiG 9.5.1-P3  www.unam.mx 
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 42381
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 5, ADDITIONAL: 5

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.unam.mx.IN

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.unam.mx.6031IN2001:1218:1:6:d685:64ff:fec4:720b

You see? there's a lot of IPv6 activity since a few weeks ago. xD




--

 Message: 1
 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:28:40 +0200
 From: Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org
 Subject:  on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them
on theirnameservers
 To: nanog nanog@nanog.org
 Message-ID: 4def40c8.3020...@unfix.org
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 It is really nice that folks where able to put  records on their
 websites for only 24 hours, but they forgot to put in the glue on their
 nameservers.

 As such, for the folks testing IPv6-only, a lot of sites will fail
 unless they use a recursor that does the IPv4 for them.

 The root is there, .com does it mostly too (well, a+b have IPv6), but
 most sites don't. Thus maybe that can be done next year on the next IPv6
 day? :)

 At least one step closer, now lets hope that sites also keep that IPv6
 address there.

 Greets,
  Jeroen

 --

 $ dig @d.gtld-servers.net ns1.google.com 

 ;  DiG 9.7.3  @d.gtld-servers.net ns1.google.com 
 ; (1 server found)
 ;; global options: +cmd
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 16030
 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 4
 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;ns1.google.com.IN  

 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
 google.com. 172800  IN  NS  ns2.google.com.
 google.com. 172800  IN  NS  ns1.google.com.
 google.com. 172800  IN  NS  ns3.google.com.
 google.com. 172800  IN  NS  ns4.google.com.

 ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
 ns2.google.com. 172800  IN  A   216.239.34.10
 ns1.google.com. 172800  IN  A   216.239.32.10
 ns3.google.com. 172800  IN  A   216.239.36.10
 ns4.google.com. 172800  IN  A   216.239.38.10

 ;; Query time: 123 msec
 ;; SERVER: 192.31.80.30#53(192.31.80.30)
 ;; WHEN: Wed Jun  8 11:26:35 2011
 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 164

 $ dig @d.gtld-servers.net ns1.cisco.com 

 ;  DiG 9.7.3  @d.gtld-servers.net ns1.cisco.com 
 ; (1 server found)
 ;; global options: +cmd
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 55271
 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;ns1.cisco.com. IN  

 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
 cisco.com.  172800  IN  NS  ns1.cisco.com.
 cisco.com.  172800  IN  NS  ns2.cisco.com.

 ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
 ns1.cisco.com.  172800  IN  A   128.107.241.185
 ns2.cisco.com.  172800  IN  A   64.102.255.44

 ;; Query time: 126 msec
 ;; SERVER: 192.31.80.30#53(192.31.80.30)
 ;; WHEN: Wed Jun  8 11:28:14 2011
 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 95



 

Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-08 Thread Jorge Amodio
 The main objective for today is to access the web services, that's why you
 can't reach a  record for a DNS query for a given NS server.

So if there are no  records from where we ftp6 the HOSTSV6.TXT file ?

-J



Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-08 Thread Lucy Lynch

On Wed, 8 Jun 2011, Daniel Espejel wrote:


Hi.

The main objective for today is to access the web services, that's why you
can't reach a  record for a DNS query for a given NS server.


exactly - this site provides a nice service snapshot:

http://www.mrp.net/IPv6Day.html



;  DiG 9.5.1-P3  www.google.com 
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 40029
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 4

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.google.com.IN

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.google.com.532907INCNAMEwww.l.google.com.
www.l.google.com.150IN2001:4860:4002:802::1010

;  DiG 9.5.1-P3  www.yahoo.com 
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 60816
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 7, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.yahoo.com.IN

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.yahoo.com.284INCNAMEfpfd.wa1.b.yahoo.com.
fpfd.wa1.b.yahoo.com.6IN2001:4998:f00c:1fe::3001
fpfd.wa1.b.yahoo.com.6IN2001:4998:f011:1fe::3001
fpfd.wa1.b.yahoo.com.6IN2001:4998:f011:1fe::3000
fpfd.wa1.b.yahoo.com.6IN2001:4998:f00d:1fe::3001
fpfd.wa1.b.yahoo.com.6IN2001:4998:f00d:1fe::3000
fpfd.wa1.b.yahoo.com.6IN2001:4998:f00c:1fe::3000
;  DiG 9.5.1-P3  www.facebook.com 
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 12079
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.facebook.com.IN

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.facebook.com.8IN2620:0:1c00:0:face:b00c:0:1



;  DiG 9.5.1-P3  www.unam.mx 
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 42381
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 5, ADDITIONAL: 5

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.unam.mx.IN

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.unam.mx.6031IN2001:1218:1:6:d685:64ff:fec4:720b

You see? there's a lot of IPv6 activity since a few weeks ago. xD




--


Message: 1
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:28:40 +0200
From: Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org
Subject:  on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them
   on theirnameservers
To: nanog nanog@nanog.org
Message-ID: 4def40c8.3020...@unfix.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

It is really nice that folks where able to put  records on their
websites for only 24 hours, but they forgot to put in the glue on their
nameservers.

As such, for the folks testing IPv6-only, a lot of sites will fail
unless they use a recursor that does the IPv4 for them.

The root is there, .com does it mostly too (well, a+b have IPv6), but
most sites don't. Thus maybe that can be done next year on the next IPv6
day? :)

At least one step closer, now lets hope that sites also keep that IPv6
address there.

Greets,
 Jeroen

--

$ dig @d.gtld-servers.net ns1.google.com 

;  DiG 9.7.3  @d.gtld-servers.net ns1.google.com 
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 16030
;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 4
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;ns1.google.com.IN  

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
google.com. 172800  IN  NS  ns2.google.com.
google.com. 172800  IN  NS  ns1.google.com.
google.com. 172800  IN  NS  ns3.google.com.
google.com. 172800  IN  NS  ns4.google.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns2.google.com. 172800  IN  A   216.239.34.10
ns1.google.com. 172800  IN  A   216.239.32.10
ns3.google.com. 172800  IN  A   216.239.36.10
ns4.google.com. 172800  IN  A   216.239.38.10

;; Query time: 123 msec
;; SERVER: 192.31.80.30#53(192.31.80.30)
;; WHEN: Wed Jun  8 11:26:35 2011
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 164

$ dig @d.gtld-servers.net ns1.cisco.com 

;  DiG 9.7.3  @d.gtld-servers.net ns1.cisco.com 
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 55271
;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;ns1.cisco.com. IN  

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
cisco.com.  172800  IN  NS  ns1.cisco.com.
cisco.com.  172800  IN  NS  ns2.cisco.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.cisco.com.  172800  IN  A   128.107.241.185
ns2.cisco.com.  172800  IN  A   64.102.255.44

;; Query time: 126 msec
;; SERVER: 

Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-08 Thread Jorge Amodio
 http://www.mrp.net/IPv6Day.html

The web access column reflects access to internal content or just the
home page ?

-J



Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-08 Thread Lucy Lynch

On Wed, 8 Jun 2011, Jorge Amodio wrote:


http://www.mrp.net/IPv6Day.html


The web access column reflects access to internal content or just the
home page ?


Mark's notes explain what he tested and clicking on any link shows
the result of his diagnostics:

http://www.mrp.net//IPv6Day_files/diagnostics/aol.com.html

guessing he didn't do depth probes. Maybe you want to set something up?

- Lucy


-J





Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-08 Thread Jorge Amodio
 http://www.mrp.net/IPv6Day.html

 The web access column reflects access to internal content or just the
 home page ?

 Mark's notes explain what he tested and clicking on any link shows
 the result of his diagnostics:

 http://www.mrp.net//IPv6Day_files/diagnostics/aol.com.html

 guessing he didn't do depth probes. Maybe you want to set something up?

Thanks for the follow up. I noticed that the test only looks for the
html survey file. Just curious since other folks reported that some
content providers are serving the home page via IPv6 but other content
goes via IPv4. Still surprised that Akamai's numbers feel very low,
300+ hits per sec (worldwide) for one of the major CDN is not that
much IHMO, we really need more IPv6 eye-balls connecting.

-J



RE: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-08 Thread Schiller, Heather A
 

-Original Message-
From: Jorge Amodio [mailto:jmamo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 1:01 PM
To: Lucy Lynch
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re:  on various websites, but they all forgot to enable
them on their nameservers

 http://www.mrp.net/IPv6Day.html

 The web access column reflects access to internal content or just the

 home page ?

 Mark's notes explain what he tested and clicking on any link shows the

 result of his diagnostics:

 http://www.mrp.net//IPv6Day_files/diagnostics/aol.com.html

 guessing he didn't do depth probes. Maybe you want to set something
up?

Thanks for the follow up. I noticed that the test only looks for the
html survey file. Just curious since other folks reported that some
content providers are serving the home page via IPv6 but other content
goes via IPv4. Still surprised that Akamai's numbers feel very low,
300+ hits per sec (worldwide) for one of the major CDN is not that
much IHMO, we really need more IPv6 eye-balls connecting.

-J


...yes, there is a serious lack of v6 enabled eyeballs.  But it's also
not clear to me from Akamai's stats just how many of the sites they host
are v6 enabled. 2? 12? 500?

 --heather



Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-08 Thread Jorge Amodio
 ...yes, there is a serious lack of v6 enabled eyeballs.  But it's also
 not clear to me from Akamai's stats just how many of the sites they host
 are v6 enabled. 2? 12? 500?

True. I'll go back to their site and dig for more detailed info about
what those hits are actually hitting.

Regards
Jorge



Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-08 Thread Igor Gashinsky
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011, Jeroen Massar wrote:

:: It is really nice that folks where able to put  records on their
:: websites for only 24 hours, but they forgot to put in the glue on their
:: nameservers.
:: 
:: As such, for the folks testing IPv6-only, a lot of sites will fail
:: unless they use a recursor that does the IPv4 for them.

Speaking strictly for myself, we didn't forget. First of all, 
that's not what World IPv6 Day was supposed to be about -- it's not about 
ipv6-only users, it's about dual-stacking content (if your ISP doesn't 
have enough ip's to dual-stack their recursive resolvers, you have 
bigger problems right now :) ).. 

Also, and more importantly, our data shows that 0.5% of the users can't 
resolve hostnames if we enabled  glue on all resolvers... And, before 
somebody asks, I don't have any data on what happends if you enable 
v6-glue to only 1 of your NS's though :)

-igor



Re: AAAA on various websites, but they all forgot to enable them on their nameservers....

2011-06-08 Thread Octavio Alvarez

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 02:28:40 -0700, Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org wrote:


It is really nice that folks where able to put  records on their
websites for only 24 hours, but they forgot to put in the glue on their
nameservers.

As such, for the folks testing IPv6-only, a lot of sites will fail
unless they use a recursor that does the IPv4 for them.


In fact. Although a website of mine worked flawlessly in a dual-stack
but it did NOT in an IPv6-only environment. Unfortunately, the problem
has to be fixed in the DNS provider, which though supporting 
records was enough to support IPv6.

dig -6 +trace is our friend here.

--
Octavio.