Re: Earthlink Contact - DNS cache poisoning

2011-09-24 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Will Dean  wrote:
>
> On Sep 24, 2011, at 9:07 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Jimmy Hess  wrote:
>> I think actually.. earthlink uses barefruit? (or they did when ...
>> kaminsky was off doing his destruction of the dns liars gangs...)
>> Maybe the same backend is used though for the advertizer side?
>> (barefruit provides the appliance, some third-party is the
>> advertiser/website-host... same for paxfire?)
>>
>
> Barefruit was just for returning a search engine result for a NXDOMAIN 
> response.

ah, paxfire does the same...

>
> It appears Earthlink is now using Paxfire to sniff and proxy a users traffic 
> to at least one popular website. Besides the obvious privacy implications, it 
> introduces a nice captcha on Google.

hrm, they could simply use the appliances to answer: "www.google.com
-> jomax.net-ns-answer" which is a frontend simply 30[24]'ing off to
the jomax-esque site... Oh, you get the captcha though via earthlink?
that sucks :(

-chris



Re: Earthlink Contact - DNS cache poisoning

2011-09-24 Thread Will Dean

On Sep 24, 2011, at 9:07 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Jimmy Hess  wrote:
> I think actually.. earthlink uses barefruit? (or they did when ...
> kaminsky was off doing his destruction of the dns liars gangs...)
> Maybe the same backend is used though for the advertizer side?
> (barefruit provides the appliance, some third-party is the
> advertiser/website-host... same for paxfire?)
> 

Barefruit was just for returning a search engine result for a NXDOMAIN response.

It appears Earthlink is now using Paxfire to sniff and proxy a users traffic to 
at least one popular website. Besides the obvious privacy implications, it 
introduces a nice captcha on Google.

- Will


Re: Earthlink Contact - DNS cache poisoning

2011-09-24 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Jimmy Hess  wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Will Dean  wrote:
>
> The  "JOMAX.NET"  response is  indicative that there's a  Paxfire box
> in the mix,
> intercepting the DNS query  (probably installed by the ISP).
>

I think actually.. earthlink uses barefruit? (or they did when ...
kaminsky was off doing his destruction of the dns liars gangs...)
Maybe the same backend is used though for the advertizer side?
(barefruit provides the appliance, some third-party is the
advertiser/website-host... same for paxfire?)

>
>> Anyone out there in Earthlink land? I am seeing what looks to be a cache 
>> poisoning attack on ns1.mindspring.com.
>
>> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
>> www.google.com.         65535   IN      NS      WSC2.JOMAX.NET.
>> www.google.com.         65535   IN      NS      WSC1.JOMAX.NET.
>
>
> --
> -JH
>
>



Re: Earthlink Contact - DNS cache poisoning

2011-09-24 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Will Dean  wrote:

The  "JOMAX.NET"  response is  indicative that there's a  Paxfire box
in the mix,
intercepting the DNS query  (probably installed by the ISP).


> Anyone out there in Earthlink land? I am seeing what looks to be a cache 
> poisoning attack on ns1.mindspring.com.

> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> www.google.com.         65535   IN      NS      WSC2.JOMAX.NET.
> www.google.com.         65535   IN      NS      WSC1.JOMAX.NET.


--
-JH