Re: IPv6 address literals probably aren't SMTP either

2014-03-26 Thread John Levine
In article 5333970a.6070...@direcpath.com you write:

On 3/26/2014 10:16 PM, Franck Martin wrote:

 and user@2001:db8::1.25 with user@192.0.2.1:25. Who had the good idea to use 
 : for IPv6 addresses while this is the
separator for the port in IPv4? A few MTA are confused by it.
At the network level the IPv6 address is just a big number.  No 
confusion there.  At the plaintext level the naked IPv6 address should 
be wrapped in square brackets.

From:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-3.2.2

It's messier than that.  See RFC 5321 section 4.1.3.  I have no idea
whether anyone has actually implemented IPv6 address literals and if
so, how closely they followed the somewhat peculiar spec.

R's,
John



Re: IPv6 address literals probably aren't SMTP either

2014-03-26 Thread Robert Drake


On 3/26/2014 11:28 PM, John Levine wrote:


It's messier than that.  See RFC 5321 section 4.1.3.  I have no idea
whether anyone has actually implemented IPv6 address literals and if
so, how closely they followed the somewhat peculiar spec.

R's,
John

I'm not sure why the SMTP RFC defines IPv6-addr so thoroughly and in an 
incompatible way with the other RFCs.  It would make more sense to refer 
back to another RFC with authoritative definitions. They're completely 
missing the fun that's happening with Zone Identifiers in RFC6874 and 
the hacks to support them some have been doing with the IPvFuture 
definition.


I'm not saying John Klensin shouldn't have a say in how the IPv6 address 
is defined, but I do think it would be best for everyone to work it out 
in an official place somewhere so that email software isn't doing the 
complete opposite of everyone else.




Re: IPv6 address literals probably aren't SMTP either

2014-03-26 Thread John R. Levine
I'm not saying John Klensin shouldn't have a say in how the IPv6 address is 
defined, but I do think it would be best for everyone to work it out in an 
official place somewhere so that email software isn't doing the complete 
opposite of everyone else.


Too late.

Regards,
John Levine, jo...@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for Dummies,
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