Re: IPv6 resolvers

2012-01-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
does pfsense need real dns hosting maybe?

I hear: http://puck.nether.net/dns ... works.

On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Chris Adams  wrote:
> registrar-servers.com.



Re: IPv6 resolvers

2012-01-04 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Ryan Rawdon  said:
> Try .pfsense.org (see below) to avoid caching, since the 
> problem in question does not rely on the name existing.  I am able to 
> reproduce it roughly every 3rd random string I try, definitely not every 
> time.  I am unable to reproduce it with other domains so far, only 
> pfsense.org and when it does occur I see a 1500-2200ms query time:

This appears to be a problem with the authoritative servers for
pfsense.org.  They are dns[1-5].registrar-servers.com (which each have
multiple IP addresses).  If I try each IP, I get no response from
38.101.213.194 and 2+ second response time from 69.16.244.25.  Both of
those IPs are listed for dns1.registrar-servers.com.

-- 
Chris Adams 
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.



Re: IPv6 resolvers

2012-01-04 Thread Ryan Rawdon

On Jan 4, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Mark Kamichoff wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 09:39:39PM +0100, Seth Mos wrote:
>> And a similar mistake I see others respond too as well, this is
>> another domain with just a IPv4 record. That was not really what I was
>> complaining about but I was not specific enough in my email
>> 
>> When requesting the DNS for the hostname with a Quad A the story is
>> entirely different!
>> 
>> Try www.pfsense.com or www.didi.nl
> 
> Still not seeing additional latency from here:



Try .pfsense.org (see below) to avoid caching, since the problem 
in question does not rely on the name existing.  I am able to reproduce it 
roughly every 3rd random string I try, definitely not every time.  I am unable 
to reproduce it with other domains so far, only pfsense.org and when it does 
occur I see a 1500-2200ms query time:

nova-dhcp-host111:~ ryan$ dig @ordns.he.net awegawregwaefg.pfsense.org

; <<>> DiG 9.6.0-APPLE-P2 <<>> @ordns.he.net awegawregwaefg.pfsense.org
; (2 servers found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 24807
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;awegawregwaefg.pfsense.org.IN  A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
pfsense.org.3600IN  SOA dns1.registrar-servers.com. 
hostmaster.registrar-servers.com. 2012010200 10001 1801 604801 3601

;; Query time: 1695 msec
;; SERVER: 2001:470:20::2#53(2001:470:20::2)
;; WHEN: Wed Jan  4 18:34:17 2012
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 117

nova-dhcp-host111:~ ryan$




> 
> (neodymium:15:44)% dig @2001:470:20::2 www.didi.nl.    
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.7.3 <<>> @2001:470:20::2 www.didi.nl. 
> ; (1 server found)
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 33979
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
> 
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;www.didi.nl. IN  
> 
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> www.didi.nl.  3520IN  2001:888:2087:33::132
> 
> ;; Query time: 20 msec
> ;; SERVER: 2001:470:20::2#53(2001:470:20::2)
> ;; WHEN: Wed Jan  4 15:44:06 2012
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 57
> 
> And if that is already cached, let's try something that should require a
> fresh lookup:
> 
> (neodymium:15:44)% dig @2001:470:20::2 tengigabitethernet.com. 
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.7.3 <<>> @2001:470:20::2 tengigabitethernet.com. 
> ; (1 server found)
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41662
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
> 
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;tengigabitethernet.com.  IN  
> 
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> tengigabitethernet.com.   3600IN  2001:48c8:1:104::e
> 
> ;; Query time: 84 msec
> ;; SERVER: 2001:470:20::2#53(2001:470:20::2)
> ;; WHEN: Wed Jan  4 15:44:41 2012
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 68
> 
> Again, not too bad.. 
> 
> - Mark
> 
> -- 
> Mark Kamichoff
> p...@prolixium.com
> http://www.prolixium.com/




Re: IPv6 resolvers

2012-01-04 Thread Mark Kamichoff
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 09:39:39PM +0100, Seth Mos wrote:
> And a similar mistake I see others respond too as well, this is
> another domain with just a IPv4 record. That was not really what I was
> complaining about but I was not specific enough in my email
> 
> When requesting the DNS for the hostname with a Quad A the story is
> entirely different!
> 
> Try www.pfsense.com or www.didi.nl

Still not seeing additional latency from here:

(neodymium:15:44)% dig @2001:470:20::2 www.didi.nl.    

; <<>> DiG 9.7.3 <<>> @2001:470:20::2 www.didi.nl. 
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 33979
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.didi.nl.   IN  

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.didi.nl.3520IN  2001:888:2087:33::132

;; Query time: 20 msec
;; SERVER: 2001:470:20::2#53(2001:470:20::2)
;; WHEN: Wed Jan  4 15:44:06 2012
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 57

And if that is already cached, let's try something that should require a
fresh lookup:

(neodymium:15:44)% dig @2001:470:20::2 tengigabitethernet.com. 

; <<>> DiG 9.7.3 <<>> @2001:470:20::2 tengigabitethernet.com. 
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41662
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;tengigabitethernet.com.IN  

;; ANSWER SECTION:
tengigabitethernet.com. 3600IN  2001:48c8:1:104::e

;; Query time: 84 msec
;; SERVER: 2001:470:20::2#53(2001:470:20::2)
;; WHEN: Wed Jan  4 15:44:41 2012
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 68

Again, not too bad.. 

- Mark

-- 
Mark Kamichoff
p...@prolixium.com
http://www.prolixium.com/


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Re: IPv6 resolvers

2012-01-04 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn

Hi!


So please stop responding with ping response times already :-)

No, pfSense does not set these per default, they are in wide use 
because these are part of the Google DNS whitelist for V6 records.


And a similar mistake I see others respond too as well, this is another 
domain with just a IPv4 record. That was not really what I was 
complaining about but I was not specific enough in my email


When requesting the DNS for the hostname with a Quad A the story is 
entirely different!


Try www.pfsense.com or www.didi.nl


Tried those three for you and prolocation.net. All fine? This should not 
be on nanog i guess. Check with their support, or something :-)


[root@ipv6proxy ~]# time host www.prolocation.net 2001:470:20::2
Using domain server:
Name: 2001:470:20::2
Address: 2001:470:20::2#53
Aliases:

www.prolocation.net has address 94.228.129.19
www.prolocation.net has IPv6 address 2a00:d00:ff:131:94:228:131:131

real0m0.011s
user0m0.001s
sys 0m0.008s
[root@ipv6proxy ~]#

[root@ipv6proxy ~]# time host pfsense.com 2001:470:20::2
Using domain server:
Name: 2001:470:20::2
Address: 2001:470:20::2#53
Aliases:

pfsense.com is an alias for pfsense.org.
pfsense.org has address 69.64.6.21
pfsense.org has IPv6 address 2605:8000:d:1::167
pfsense.org mail is handled by 10 mail.pfsense.org.

real0m0.011s
user0m0.001s
sys 0m0.007s

[root@ipv6proxy ~]# time host www.didi.nl 2001:470:20::2
Using domain server:
Name: 2001:470:20::2
Address: 2001:470:20::2#53
Aliases:

www.didi.nl has address 82.94.161.132
www.didi.nl has IPv6 address 2001:888:2087:33::132

real0m0.523s
user0m0.001s
sys 0m0.006s

Bye,
Raymond.




Re: IPv6 resolvers

2012-01-04 Thread Seth Mos
Hi,

Just pointing out to other responding to this thread that I was referring to 
the *query* response times, I said nothing about ICMP which is perfectly fine.

So please stop responding with ping response times already :-)

No, pfSense does not set these per default, they are in wide use because these 
are part of the Google DNS whitelist for V6 records.

Op 4 jan 2012, om 21:33 heeft Mark Kamichoff het volgende geschreven:

> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> cnn.com.  299 IN  A   157.166.226.26
> cnn.com.  299 IN  A   157.166.255.19
> cnn.com.  299 IN  A   157.166.255.18
> cnn.com.  299 IN  A   157.166.226.25

And a similar mistake I see others respond too as well, this is another domain 
with just a IPv4 record. That was not really what I was complaining about but I 
was not specific enough in my email

When requesting the DNS for the hostname with a Quad A the story is entirely 
different!

Try www.pfsense.com or www.didi.nl

Those will definitely hit the issue, otherwise one can always use Nanog.org 
like below.

 74.82.42.42 2204 msec 
 2001:4860:4860::884417 msec 
 2001:470:20::2  2890 msec
   
Best regards,

Seth

> 
> ;; Query time: 38 msec
> ;; SERVER: 74.82.42.42#53(74.82.42.42)
> ;; WHEN: Wed Jan  4 15:27:17 2012
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 89
> 
> (neodymium:15:32)% dig @2001:470:20::2 cnn.com. A
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.7.3 <<>> @2001:470:20::2 cnn.com. A
> ; (1 server found)
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41382
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
> 
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;cnn.com. IN  A
> 
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> cnn.com.  295 IN  A   157.166.226.25
> cnn.com.  295 IN  A   157.166.255.18
> cnn.com.  295 IN  A   157.166.255.19
> cnn.com.  295 IN  A   157.166.226.26
> 
> ;; Query time: 20 msec
> ;; SERVER: 2001:470:20::2#53(2001:470:20::2)
> ;; WHEN: Wed Jan  4 15:32:27 2012
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 89
> 
> That being said, keep in mind these are anycasted.  I'm using
> 216.66.22.2 [tserv13.ash1.ipv6.he.net] for IPv4 and 209.51.161.14
> [tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net] according to the A record returned by
> whoami.akamai.net.  I might not be hitting the same server you are.
> 
> - Mark
> 
> -- 
> Mark Kamichoff
> p...@prolixium.com
> http://www.prolixium.com/




Re: IPv6 resolvers

2012-01-04 Thread Mark Kamichoff
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 09:00:26PM +0100, Seth Mos wrote:
> I was wondering if many people are seeing horrendous latency on the
> free Hurricane Electric resolvers?

Looks fine to me:

(neodymium:15:27)% dig @74.82.42.42 cnn.com. A

; <<>> DiG 9.7.3 <<>> @74.82.42.42 cnn.com. A
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 53277
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;cnn.com.   IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
cnn.com.299 IN  A   157.166.226.26
cnn.com.299 IN  A   157.166.255.19
cnn.com.299 IN  A   157.166.255.18
cnn.com.299 IN  A   157.166.226.25

;; Query time: 38 msec
;; SERVER: 74.82.42.42#53(74.82.42.42)
;; WHEN: Wed Jan  4 15:27:17 2012
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 89

(neodymium:15:32)% dig @2001:470:20::2 cnn.com. A

; <<>> DiG 9.7.3 <<>> @2001:470:20::2 cnn.com. A
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41382
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;cnn.com.   IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
cnn.com.295 IN  A   157.166.226.25
cnn.com.295 IN  A   157.166.255.18
cnn.com.295 IN  A   157.166.255.19
cnn.com.295 IN  A   157.166.226.26

;; Query time: 20 msec
;; SERVER: 2001:470:20::2#53(2001:470:20::2)
;; WHEN: Wed Jan  4 15:32:27 2012
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 89

That being said, keep in mind these are anycasted.  I'm using
216.66.22.2 [tserv13.ash1.ipv6.he.net] for IPv4 and 209.51.161.14
[tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net] according to the A record returned by
whoami.akamai.net.  I might not be hitting the same server you are.

- Mark

-- 
Mark Kamichoff
p...@prolixium.com
http://www.prolixium.com/


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Re: IPv6 resolvers

2012-01-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Seth Mos  wrote:
> Hi Nanog, Owen,
>
> I was wondering if many people are seeing horrendous latency on the free 
> Hurricane Electric resolvers?
>
> Both accessing the v4 or v6 resolvers have horrendous latency. This could 
> well be coupled to their free nature and popularity.
>
> So far when contacting Hurricane Electric they restart the resolver on their 
> end and all is well again, but now other pfSense users in the US were 
> noticing these latency issues as well, leading me to believe it is a larger 
> issue.

err, are all pfsense people automatically configured to use he's
servers? that seems sorta rude if so...

>
> But I was wondering if a more permanent solution for these resolvers exist.
>
>
>  74.82.42.42     2373 msec
>  2001:470:20::2  2592 msec
>
> The google DNS server I'm using is doing swimmingly so far, OpenDNS seems ok 
> too.
>  2001:4860:4860::8844    16 msec
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Seth Mos



Re: IPv6 resolvers

2012-01-04 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn

Hi!


But I was wondering if a more permanent solution for these resolvers exist.

74.82.42.42  2373 msec
2001:470:20::2   2592 msec

The google DNS server I'm using is doing swimmingly so far, OpenDNS seems ok 
too.
2001:4860:4860::8844 16 msec


[root@ipv6proxy ~]# ping 74.82.42.42
PING 74.82.42.42 (74.82.42.42) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 74.82.42.42: icmp_seq=1 ttl=61 time=0.664 ms
64 bytes from 74.82.42.42: icmp_seq=2 ttl=61 time=0.640 ms
64 bytes from 74.82.42.42: icmp_seq=3 ttl=61 time=0.551 ms
64 bytes from 74.82.42.42: icmp_seq=4 ttl=61 time=0.614 ms

[root@ipv6proxy ~]# ping6 2001:470:20::2
PING 2001:470:20::2(2001:470:20::2) 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 2001:470:20::2: icmp_seq=1 ttl=61 time=0.488 ms
64 bytes from 2001:470:20::2: icmp_seq=2 ttl=61 time=0.478 ms
64 bytes from 2001:470:20::2: icmp_seq=3 ttl=61 time=0.739 ms
64 bytes from 2001:470:20::2: icmp_seq=4 ttl=61 time=0.515 ms

Looks pretty normal here.

Bye,
Raymond.