Re: Network Simulators

2011-01-19 Thread Ryan Shea
You can do some switching by stuffing a virtual NM-16ESW into your
faketastic 3660 in Dynamips. Then there are the built-in frame-relay and
ethernet switches you could dump into the mix as well.

-Ryan

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Brandon Kim brandon@brandontek.comwrote:


 James:

 I've been resisting GNS3 for the longest time, because I like real
 equipment and to get my hands a little dirty.
 But for the purpose of simulation, GNS3 helped me identify a BGP issue last
 week. If it weren't for GNS3,
 I would not have been able to figure it out.

 I will be using GNS3 in the future now for as much I can. Remember it is
 more router oriented than switch.

 So you can't do any fancy L3 switching..



  Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:05:21 -0500
  From: ja...@freedomnet.co.nz
  To: nanog@nanog.org
  Subject: Re: Network Simulators
 
  So far GNS3 has won out so far. It seems to work on my Mac fairly well.
  trying it out now.
 
  On 17/01/11 9:37 AM, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote:
   I am currently researching virtual simulation environments for the
   Networking courses that I teach. I am now interested in user-mode
   linux emulators as they provide more real environments.
  
   The one that I am liking the most right now is this one:
   http://wiki.netkit.org/index.php/Main_Page
  
   regards
  
   Carlos
  
   On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Arturo Servin
 arturo.ser...@gmail.com  wrote:
   GNS3
   http://www.gns3.net/
  
   This is another network simulator, mainly for academic
 research.
  
   NS-2
   http://www.isi.edu/nsnam/ns/
  
   And you can always setup some virtual machines with DNSs,
 hosts and routers with open-source software.
  
   regards,
   -as
  
   On 17 Jan 2011, at 11:58, James Jones wrote:
  
   Are there any good Network Simulators/Trainers out there that support
 IPv6? I want play around with some IPv6 setup.
  
   --
   James Jones
   +1-413-667-9199 tel:+14136679199
   ja...@freedomnet.co.nz
  
  
  
  
 




RE: Network Simulators

2011-01-19 Thread Gary Gladney
If you looking for network simulator for Cisco equipment it's been my 
experience that Boson (www.boson.com) has best network simulator for Cisco 
equipment.  It behaves and process information the way real Cisco equipment 
does.  I've tried GS3, it great for routing situations but lacks in simulating 
switches.

Gary

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Shea [mailto:ryans...@google.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:37 AM
To: Brandon Kim
Cc: nanog group
Subject: Re: Network Simulators

You can do some switching by stuffing a virtual NM-16ESW into your faketastic 
3660 in Dynamips. Then there are the built-in frame-relay and ethernet switches 
you could dump into the mix as well.

-Ryan

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Brandon Kim brandon@brandontek.comwrote:


 James:

 I've been resisting GNS3 for the longest time, because I like real 
 equipment and to get my hands a little dirty.
 But for the purpose of simulation, GNS3 helped me identify a BGP issue 
 last week. If it weren't for GNS3, I would not have been able to 
 figure it out.

 I will be using GNS3 in the future now for as much I can. Remember it 
 is more router oriented than switch.

 So you can't do any fancy L3 switching..



  Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:05:21 -0500
  From: ja...@freedomnet.co.nz
  To: nanog@nanog.org
  Subject: Re: Network Simulators
 
  So far GNS3 has won out so far. It seems to work on my Mac fairly well.
  trying it out now.
 
  On 17/01/11 9:37 AM, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote:
   I am currently researching virtual simulation environments for the 
   Networking courses that I teach. I am now interested in user-mode 
   linux emulators as they provide more real environments.
  
   The one that I am liking the most right now is this one:
   http://wiki.netkit.org/index.php/Main_Page
  
   regards
  
   Carlos
  
   On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Arturo Servin
 arturo.ser...@gmail.com  wrote:
   GNS3
   http://www.gns3.net/
  
   This is another network simulator, mainly for academic
 research.
  
   NS-2
   http://www.isi.edu/nsnam/ns/
  
   And you can always setup some virtual machines with DNSs,
 hosts and routers with open-source software.
  
   regards,
   -as
  
   On 17 Jan 2011, at 11:58, James Jones wrote:
  
   Are there any good Network Simulators/Trainers out there that 
   support
 IPv6? I want play around with some IPv6 setup.
  
   --
   James Jones
   +1-413-667-9199 tel:+14136679199
   ja...@freedomnet.co.nz
  
  
  
  
 





Re: Network Simulators

2011-01-19 Thread Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo
Anything for Junipers ?

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Gary Gladney glad...@stsci.edu wrote:
 If you looking for network simulator for Cisco equipment it's been my 
 experience that Boson (www.boson.com) has best network simulator for Cisco 
 equipment.  It behaves and process information the way real Cisco equipment 
 does.  I've tried GS3, it great for routing situations but lacks in 
 simulating switches.

 Gary

 -Original Message-
 From: Ryan Shea [mailto:ryans...@google.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:37 AM
 To: Brandon Kim
 Cc: nanog group
 Subject: Re: Network Simulators

 You can do some switching by stuffing a virtual NM-16ESW into your faketastic 
 3660 in Dynamips. Then there are the built-in frame-relay and ethernet 
 switches you could dump into the mix as well.

 -Ryan

 On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Brandon Kim 
 brandon@brandontek.comwrote:


 James:

 I've been resisting GNS3 for the longest time, because I like real
 equipment and to get my hands a little dirty.
 But for the purpose of simulation, GNS3 helped me identify a BGP issue
 last week. If it weren't for GNS3, I would not have been able to
 figure it out.

 I will be using GNS3 in the future now for as much I can. Remember it
 is more router oriented than switch.

 So you can't do any fancy L3 switching..



  Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:05:21 -0500
  From: ja...@freedomnet.co.nz
  To: nanog@nanog.org
  Subject: Re: Network Simulators
 
  So far GNS3 has won out so far. It seems to work on my Mac fairly well.
  trying it out now.
 
  On 17/01/11 9:37 AM, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote:
   I am currently researching virtual simulation environments for the
   Networking courses that I teach. I am now interested in user-mode
   linux emulators as they provide more real environments.
  
   The one that I am liking the most right now is this one:
   http://wiki.netkit.org/index.php/Main_Page
  
   regards
  
   Carlos
  
   On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Arturo Servin
 arturo.ser...@gmail.com  wrote:
   GNS3
   http://www.gns3.net/
  
           This is another network simulator, mainly for academic
 research.
  
   NS-2
   http://www.isi.edu/nsnam/ns/
  
           And you can always setup some virtual machines with DNSs,
 hosts and routers with open-source software.
  
   regards,
   -as
  
   On 17 Jan 2011, at 11:58, James Jones wrote:
  
   Are there any good Network Simulators/Trainers out there that
   support
 IPv6? I want play around with some IPv6 setup.
  
   --
   James Jones
   +1-413-667-9199 tel:+14136679199
   ja...@freedomnet.co.nz
  
  
  
  
 







-- 
--
=
Carlos M. Martinez-Cagnazzo
http://www.labs.lacnic.net
=



Re: Network Simulators

2011-01-19 Thread Jack Bates



On 1/19/2011 8:27 AM, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote:

Anything for Junipers ?



Olive? Do you dare?


On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Gary Gladneyglad...@stsci.edu  wrote:

If you looking for network simulator for Cisco equipment it's been my 
experience that Boson (www.boson.com) has best network simulator for Cisco 
equipment.  It behaves and process information the way real Cisco equipment 
does.  I've tried GS3, it great for routing situations but lacks in simulating 
switches.





Re: Network Simulators

2011-01-17 Thread Arturo Servin

GNS3
http://www.gns3.net/

This is another network simulator, mainly for academic research.

NS-2
http://www.isi.edu/nsnam/ns/

And you can always setup some virtual machines with DNSs, hosts and 
routers with open-source software.

regards,
-as

On 17 Jan 2011, at 11:58, James Jones wrote:

 Are there any good Network Simulators/Trainers out there that support IPv6? I 
 want play around with some IPv6 setup.
 
 -- 
 James Jones
 +1-413-667-9199
 ja...@freedomnet.co.nz
 



Re: Network Simulators

2011-01-17 Thread Jan-Philipp Warmers
James Jones ja...@freedomnet.co.nz Tippte am 2011-01-17T08:58-0500:
 Are there any good Network Simulators/Trainers out there that support  
 IPv6? I want play around with some IPv6 setup.

im using KVM with briged interfaces and JunOS Olive or vyatta

Jan



Re: Network Simulators

2011-01-17 Thread Rémy Sanchez
On 01/17/2011 02:58 PM, James Jones wrote:
 Are there any good Network Simulators/Trainers out there that support
 IPv6? I want play around with some IPv6 setup.

I like Cloonix [1]. It still has some rough edges, but is quite easy to
hack into. Used it for testing IPv6 configurations =)

[1] http://clownix.net/

-- 
Rémy Sanchez



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Re: Network Simulators

2011-01-17 Thread Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo
I am currently researching virtual simulation environments for the
Networking courses that I teach. I am now interested in user-mode
linux emulators as they provide more real environments.

The one that I am liking the most right now is this one:
http://wiki.netkit.org/index.php/Main_Page

regards

Carlos

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Arturo Servin arturo.ser...@gmail.com wrote:

 GNS3
 http://www.gns3.net/

        This is another network simulator, mainly for academic research.

 NS-2
 http://www.isi.edu/nsnam/ns/

        And you can always setup some virtual machines with DNSs, hosts and 
 routers with open-source software.

 regards,
 -as

 On 17 Jan 2011, at 11:58, James Jones wrote:

 Are there any good Network Simulators/Trainers out there that support IPv6? 
 I want play around with some IPv6 setup.

 --
 James Jones
 +1-413-667-9199
 ja...@freedomnet.co.nz






-- 
--
=
Carlos M. Martinez-Cagnazzo
http://www.labs.lacnic.net
=



Re: Network Simulators

2011-01-17 Thread James Jones
So far GNS3 has won out so far. It seems to work on my Mac fairly well. 
trying it out now.


On 17/01/11 9:37 AM, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote:

I am currently researching virtual simulation environments for the
Networking courses that I teach. I am now interested in user-mode
linux emulators as they provide more real environments.

The one that I am liking the most right now is this one:
http://wiki.netkit.org/index.php/Main_Page

regards

Carlos

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Arturo Servinarturo.ser...@gmail.com  wrote:

GNS3
http://www.gns3.net/

This is another network simulator, mainly for academic research.

NS-2
http://www.isi.edu/nsnam/ns/

And you can always setup some virtual machines with DNSs, hosts and 
routers with open-source software.

regards,
-as

On 17 Jan 2011, at 11:58, James Jones wrote:


Are there any good Network Simulators/Trainers out there that support IPv6? I 
want play around with some IPv6 setup.

--
James Jones
+1-413-667-9199
ja...@freedomnet.co.nz










RE: Network Simulators

2011-01-17 Thread Brandon Kim

James:

I've been resisting GNS3 for the longest time, because I like real equipment 
and to get my hands a little dirty.
But for the purpose of simulation, GNS3 helped me identify a BGP issue last 
week. If it weren't for GNS3,
I would not have been able to figure it out.

I will be using GNS3 in the future now for as much I can. Remember it is more 
router oriented than switch.

So you can't do any fancy L3 switching..



 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:05:21 -0500
 From: ja...@freedomnet.co.nz
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: Network Simulators
 
 So far GNS3 has won out so far. It seems to work on my Mac fairly well. 
 trying it out now.
 
 On 17/01/11 9:37 AM, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote:
  I am currently researching virtual simulation environments for the
  Networking courses that I teach. I am now interested in user-mode
  linux emulators as they provide more real environments.
 
  The one that I am liking the most right now is this one:
  http://wiki.netkit.org/index.php/Main_Page
 
  regards
 
  Carlos
 
  On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Arturo Servinarturo.ser...@gmail.com  
  wrote:
  GNS3
  http://www.gns3.net/
 
  This is another network simulator, mainly for academic research.
 
  NS-2
  http://www.isi.edu/nsnam/ns/
 
  And you can always setup some virtual machines with DNSs, hosts 
  and routers with open-source software.
 
  regards,
  -as
 
  On 17 Jan 2011, at 11:58, James Jones wrote:
 
  Are there any good Network Simulators/Trainers out there that support 
  IPv6? I want play around with some IPv6 setup.
 
  --
  James Jones
  +1-413-667-9199
  ja...@freedomnet.co.nz
 
 
 
 
 
  

Re: Network Simulators

2011-01-17 Thread Randy Bush
 Are there any good Network Simulators/Trainers out there that support 
 IPv6? I want play around with some IPv6 setup.

what are you trying to simulate?
  o control plane?
  o traffic?
  o interfaces and layers 1-3?
  o ...

makes a big difference

randy



Re: Network Simulators

2011-01-17 Thread Joel Jaeggli

On 1/17/11 12:12 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
 Are there any good Network Simulators/Trainers out there that support 
 IPv6? I want play around with some IPv6 setup.
 
 what are you trying to simulate?
   o control plane?
   o traffic?
   o interfaces and layers 1-3?
   o ...

products which I've recently evaluated for use in network simulation
with relevance to ipv6.

shunra - latency simulator nework property simulator.
ixia - traffic generation, protocol simulation, control plane traffic
spirent - see above.

all three have v6 support.

 makes a big difference
 
 randy
 




Re: Network Simulators

2011-01-17 Thread Dave Edelman
If you have access to IOS images, look at GNS3

-Dave