Re: atmark trading

[Positively Optimistic]

This thread is equally spammish. No one cares.

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 16:54 Bryan Holloway  wrote:

> It's not sales; it's some dumb mailing list managed by "Soundest", which
>
> is now owned by "Omnisend", which sounds even less fun than its
> predecessor.
>
>
>
> Atmark's web-site has no contacts or management information listed other
>
> than "info@", otherwise I would do what you suggest.
>
>
>
> I don't have the patience to call their 800 number and talk to someone
>
> who has zero interest in getting me off of their mailing-list, assuming
>
> the drone has even an inkling of what I'm talking about.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 8/22/20 10:44 PM, Mike Hale wrote:
>
> > I've found it useful to email management if certain sales people refuse
>
> > to stop contacting you.
>
> >
>
> > On Sat, Aug 22, 2020, 1:34 PM Bryan Holloway 
> > <mailto:br...@shout.net>> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Tired of receiving spam from these jamokes.
>
> >
>
> > https://www.atmarktrade.com/
>
> >
>
> > Atmark Trading out of Chicago.
>
> >
>
> > Have tried unsubscribing numerous times; e-mailed their "info"
> accounts
>
> > to no avail.
>
> >
>
> > My only recourse, now, is to shame.
>
> >
>
> > Doubt it will do any good, but if anyone has a contact who can
> actually
>
> > get us off their ridiculous mailing-list -- 3 to 4 e-mails a day --,
>
> > well, I'm all ears.
>
> >
>
> > If not, well, don't do business with these bozos.
>
> >
>
> > /rant
>
> >
>
> > Happy Weekend ...
>
> >
>
>

RE: atmark trading

[Jerry Cloe]

Even better, bounce everything from them or even more severe null route their 
mail server. You're on nanog so I assume you have some control over your 
network. If they lose contact with other customers on your network, let them 
call you and beg forgiveness. This may sound cold, but its the only effective 
way I've found to deal with semi-legit spammers (assuming there is any legit 
business behind them).


 
-Original message-
From:Bryan Holloway 
Sent:Sat 08-22-2020 04:30 pm
Subject:Re: atmark trading
To:Mel Beckman ; 
CC:nanog@nanog.org; 
Indeed, Mel, and I agree wholeheartedly.

I suppose it's the optimist in me that people should behave according to 
their supposed attempts to allow things like, oh, I dunno ... 
"unsubscribe" links that actually do what they claim to do?

Meh. I'm done ranting ...

P.S.: Don't do business with Atmark.

Whe! Onwards.

EOThread


On 8/22/20 11:21 PM, Mel Beckman wrote:
> Bryan,
> 
> This is what inbound mail filters are for. Regex them to oblivion and get on 
> with your life. No reason to waste another millisecond on them.
> 

>   -mel
> 
>> On Aug 22, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Bryan Holloway  wrote:
>>
>> ?
>>
>> On 8/22/20 11:06 PM, Eric Tykwinski wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 22, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Bryan Holloway  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's not sales; it's some dumb mailing list managed by "Soundest", which 
>>>> is now owned by "Omnisend", which sounds even less fun than its 
>>>> predecessor.
>>>>
>>>> Atmark's web-site has no contacts or management information listed other 
>>>> than "info@", otherwise I would do what you suggest.
>>>>
>>>> I don't have the patience to call their 800 number and talk to someone who 
>>>> has zero interest in getting me off of their mailing-list, assuming the 
>>>> drone has even an inkling of what I'm talking about.
>>>>
>>> Dumb question, but if it’s a mailman or similiar list does it have 
>>> unsubscribe headers?
>>> List-Unsubscribe: <https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/options/nanog>
>>> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:nanog-requ...@nanog.org?subject=unsubscribe>
>>> List-Subscribe: <https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog>, 
>>> <mailto:nanog-requ...@nanog.org?subject=subscribe>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Eric Tykwinski
>>> TrueNet, Inc.
>>> P: 610-429-8300
>>
>> There's a link to "unsubscribe", which I've done several times. No joy.

Re: atmark trading

[Bryan Holloway]

Indeed, Mel, and I agree wholeheartedly.

I suppose it's the optimist in me that people should behave according to 
their supposed attempts to allow things like, oh, I dunno ... 
"unsubscribe" links that actually do what they claim to do?


Meh. I'm done ranting ...

P.S.: Don't do business with Atmark.

Whe! Onwards.

EOThread


On 8/22/20 11:21 PM, Mel Beckman wrote:

Bryan,

This is what inbound mail filters are for. Regex them to oblivion and get on 
with your life. No reason to waste another millisecond on them.

  -mel


On Aug 22, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Bryan Holloway  wrote:



On 8/22/20 11:06 PM, Eric Tykwinski wrote:

On Aug 22, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Bryan Holloway  wrote:


It's not sales; it's some dumb mailing list managed by "Soundest", which is now owned by 
"Omnisend", which sounds even less fun than its predecessor.

Atmark's web-site has no contacts or management information listed other than 
"info@", otherwise I would do what you suggest.

I don't have the patience to call their 800 number and talk to someone who has 
zero interest in getting me off of their mailing-list, assuming the drone has 
even an inkling of what I'm talking about.


Dumb question, but if it’s a mailman or similiar list does it have unsubscribe 
headers?
List-Unsubscribe: 
List-Unsubscribe: 
List-Subscribe: , 

Sincerely,
Eric Tykwinski
TrueNet, Inc.
P: 610-429-8300


There's a link to "unsubscribe", which I've done several times. No joy.

Re: atmark trading

[Mel Beckman]

Bryan,

This is what inbound mail filters are for. Regex them to oblivion and get on 
with your life. No reason to waste another millisecond on them.

 -mel 

> On Aug 22, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Bryan Holloway  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/22/20 11:06 PM, Eric Tykwinski wrote:
 On Aug 22, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Bryan Holloway  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's not sales; it's some dumb mailing list managed by "Soundest", which is 
>>> now owned by "Omnisend", which sounds even less fun than its predecessor.
>>> 
>>> Atmark's web-site has no contacts or management information listed other 
>>> than "info@", otherwise I would do what you suggest.
>>> 
>>> I don't have the patience to call their 800 number and talk to someone who 
>>> has zero interest in getting me off of their mailing-list, assuming the 
>>> drone has even an inkling of what I'm talking about.
>>> 
>> Dumb question, but if it’s a mailman or similiar list does it have 
>> unsubscribe headers?
>> List-Unsubscribe: 
>> List-Unsubscribe: 
>> List-Subscribe: , 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Eric Tykwinski
>> TrueNet, Inc.
>> P: 610-429-8300
> 
> There's a link to "unsubscribe", which I've done several times. No joy.

Re: atmark trading

[Bryan Holloway]

On 8/22/20 11:06 PM, Eric Tykwinski wrote:



On Aug 22, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Bryan Holloway  wrote:

It's not sales; it's some dumb mailing list managed by "Soundest", which is now owned by 
"Omnisend", which sounds even less fun than its predecessor.

Atmark's web-site has no contacts or management information listed other than 
"info@", otherwise I would do what you suggest.

I don't have the patience to call their 800 number and talk to someone who has 
zero interest in getting me off of their mailing-list, assuming the drone has 
even an inkling of what I'm talking about.



Dumb question, but if it’s a mailman or similiar list does it have unsubscribe 
headers?
List-Unsubscribe: 
List-Unsubscribe: 
List-Subscribe: , 


Sincerely,

Eric Tykwinski
TrueNet, Inc.
P: 610-429-8300



There's a link to "unsubscribe", which I've done several times. No joy.

Re: atmark trading

[Eric Tykwinski]

> On Aug 22, 2020, at 4:53 PM, Bryan Holloway  wrote:
> 
> It's not sales; it's some dumb mailing list managed by "Soundest", which is 
> now owned by "Omnisend", which sounds even less fun than its predecessor.
> 
> Atmark's web-site has no contacts or management information listed other than 
> "info@", otherwise I would do what you suggest.
> 
> I don't have the patience to call their 800 number and talk to someone who 
> has zero interest in getting me off of their mailing-list, assuming the drone 
> has even an inkling of what I'm talking about.
> 

Dumb question, but if it’s a mailman or similiar list does it have unsubscribe 
headers?
List-Unsubscribe: 
List-Unsubscribe: 
List-Subscribe: , 


Sincerely,

Eric Tykwinski
TrueNet, Inc.
P: 610-429-8300

Re: atmark trading

[Bryan Holloway]

It's not sales; it's some dumb mailing list managed by "Soundest", which 
is now owned by "Omnisend", which sounds even less fun than its predecessor.


Atmark's web-site has no contacts or management information listed other 
than "info@", otherwise I would do what you suggest.


I don't have the patience to call their 800 number and talk to someone 
who has zero interest in getting me off of their mailing-list, assuming 
the drone has even an inkling of what I'm talking about.



On 8/22/20 10:44 PM, Mike Hale wrote:
I've found it useful to email management if certain sales people refuse 
to stop contacting you.


On Sat, Aug 22, 2020, 1:34 PM Bryan Holloway <mailto:br...@shout.net>> wrote:


Tired of receiving spam from these jamokes.

https://www.atmarktrade.com/

Atmark Trading out of Chicago.

Have tried unsubscribing numerous times; e-mailed their "info" accounts
to no avail.

My only recourse, now, is to shame.

Doubt it will do any good, but if anyone has a contact who can actually
get us off their ridiculous mailing-list -- 3 to 4 e-mails a day --,
well, I'm all ears.

If not, well, don't do business with these bozos.

/rant

Happy Weekend ...

Re: atmark trading

[Rubens Kuhl]

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 5:45 PM Mike Hale  wrote:
>
> I've found it useful to email management if certain sales people refuse to 
> stop contacting you.


My experience is that management of spammer companies tries arguing
it's not spam instead of changing practices.
And this includes so-called reputation providers.

Rubens

Re: atmark trading

[Mike Hale]

I've found it useful to email management if certain sales people refuse to
stop contacting you.

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020, 1:34 PM Bryan Holloway  wrote:

> Tired of receiving spam from these jamokes.
>
> https://www.atmarktrade.com/
>
> Atmark Trading out of Chicago.
>
> Have tried unsubscribing numerous times; e-mailed their "info" accounts
> to no avail.
>
> My only recourse, now, is to shame.
>
> Doubt it will do any good, but if anyone has a contact who can actually
> get us off their ridiculous mailing-list -- 3 to 4 e-mails a day --,
> well, I'm all ears.
>
> If not, well, don't do business with these bozos.
>
> /rant
>
> Happy Weekend ...
>

atmark trading

[Bryan Holloway]

Tired of receiving spam from these jamokes.

https://www.atmarktrade.com/

Atmark Trading out of Chicago.

Have tried unsubscribing numerous times; e-mailed their "info" accounts 
to no avail.


My only recourse, now, is to shame.

Doubt it will do any good, but if anyone has a contact who can actually 
get us off their ridiculous mailing-list -- 3 to 4 e-mails a day --, 
well, I'm all ears.


If not, well, don't do business with these bozos.

/rant

Happy Weekend ...