Re: ipv6 and geolocation
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Blair Trosper blair.tros...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone loves IPv6, and it's a fantastic technology. However, I've been pondering a few quirks of v6, including the low priority of PTR, but I have a question I want to throw out there: Do you think IPv6 geolocatoin (GeoIP) will ever be viable? You might find this interesting: https://ripe67.ripe.net/presentations/324-self-published-geo_RIPE67.pdf http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-google-self-published-geofeeds-02
ipv6 and geolocation
Everyone loves IPv6, and it's a fantastic technology. However, I've been pondering a few quirks of v6, including the low priority of PTR, but I have a question I want to throw out there: Do you think IPv6 geolocatoin (GeoIP) will ever be viable? If so, when do you think this will happen? If not, what's the superseding solution? (The W3C location technology fails miserably for me 100% of the time even on IPv4). Two of the big four GeoIP providers don't even catalog IPv6, and the other two's IPv6 database is unremarkable and usually only has the country. (Or, in my case, a block that's clearly in the United States is deemed as simply (somewhere in) Asia.) What I'm getting at is: IPv6 geolocation is presently rather hopeless and useless. Eager to hear thoughts from my fellow network thinkers! - Blair
Re: ipv6 and geolocation
On 2013-10-22, at 15:16, Blair Trosper blair.tros...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone loves IPv6, and it's a fantastic technology. However, I've been pondering a few quirks of v6, including the low priority of PTR, Not sure what that means, but... but I have a question I want to throw out there: Do you think IPv6 geolocatoin (GeoIP) will ever be viable? To me it seems like an easier problem to solve than IPv4. There's no historical assignment swamp. Subnets are of fixed size. Many/most organisations who receive a direct assignment will never need a second. If so, when do you think this will happen? As soon as enough people using geo-located services start doing so over v6. Joe
RE: ipv6 and geolocation
it seems like solving your first complaint is the same work as solving your second: 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.8.b.d.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa. 1h IN PTR host.example.com. 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.8.b.d.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa. 1h IN LOC 40 45 33 N 73 59 07 W 100m From: Blair Trosper [blair.tros...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:16 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: ipv6 and geolocation Everyone loves IPv6, and it's a fantastic technology. However, I've been pondering a few quirks of v6, including the low priority of PTR, but I have a question I want to throw out there: Do you think IPv6 geolocatoin (GeoIP) will ever be viable? If so, when do you think this will happen? If not, what's the superseding solution? (The W3C location technology fails miserably for me 100% of the time even on IPv4). Two of the big four GeoIP providers don't even catalog IPv6, and the other two's IPv6 database is unremarkable and usually only has the country. (Or, in my case, a block that's clearly in the United States is deemed as simply (somewhere in) Asia.) What I'm getting at is: IPv6 geolocation is presently rather hopeless and useless. Eager to hear thoughts from my fellow network thinkers! - Blair
Re: ipv6 and geolocation
I meant that PTR isn't a priority for ISPs. A la Comcast's rollout of IPv6 lacks PTR, as does Google in general for v4 and v6 (even though they have it internally). On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca wrote: On 2013-10-22, at 15:16, Blair Trosper blair.tros...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone loves IPv6, and it's a fantastic technology. However, I've been pondering a few quirks of v6, including the low priority of PTR, Not sure what that means, but... but I have a question I want to throw out there: Do you think IPv6 geolocatoin (GeoIP) will ever be viable? To me it seems like an easier problem to solve than IPv4. There's no historical assignment swamp. Subnets are of fixed size. Many/most organisations who receive a direct assignment will never need a second. If so, when do you think this will happen? As soon as enough people using geo-located services start doing so over v6. Joe
