pls help about mtu setting again

2010-06-23 Thread Deric Kwok
Hi

Thank you for your reply about DSL mtu

Now I have question about internet cable connection. ls it same as DSL?

I tested it in my friend cable connection.

1470 is fine but 1480 is problem. Why it needs header in cable connection also?

C:\Documents and Settings\dericping yahoo.com -f -l 1470

Pinging yahoo.com [98.137.149.56] with 1470 bytes of data:

Reply from 98.137.149.56: bytes=1470 time=96ms TTL=50
Reply from 98.137.149.56: bytes=1470 time=91ms TTL=50
Reply from 98.137.149.56: bytes=1470 time=92ms TTL=50
Reply from 98.137.149.56: bytes=1470 time=89ms TTL=50

Ping statistics for 98.137.149.56:
  Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
  Minimum = 89ms, Maximum = 96ms, Average = 92ms

C:\Documents and Settings\dericping yahoo.com -f -l 1480

Pinging yahoo.com [98.137.149.56] with 1480 bytes of data:

Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.

Ping statistics for 98.137.149.56:
  Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

Thank you for your help



RE: pls help about mtu setting again

2010-06-23 Thread kmedc...@dessus.com

1472 is the maximum ICMP payload size for standard Ethernet.  1480 fails 
because, well, it is  1472.

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-Original Message-
From: Deric Kwok [mailto:deric.kwok2...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June, 2010 12:53
To: nanog list
Subject: pls help about mtu setting again

Hi

Thank you for your reply about DSL mtu

Now I have question about internet cable connection. ls it same as DSL?

I tested it in my friend cable connection.

1470 is fine but 1480 is problem. Why it needs header in cable connection
also?

C:\Documents and Settings\dericping yahoo.com -f -l 1470

Pinging yahoo.com [98.137.149.56] with 1470 bytes of data:

Reply from 98.137.149.56: bytes=1470 time=96ms TTL=50
Reply from 98.137.149.56: bytes=1470 time=91ms TTL=50
Reply from 98.137.149.56: bytes=1470 time=92ms TTL=50
Reply from 98.137.149.56: bytes=1470 time=89ms TTL=50

Ping statistics for 98.137.149.56:
  Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
  Minimum = 89ms, Maximum = 96ms, Average = 92ms

C:\Documents and Settings\dericping yahoo.com -f -l 1480

Pinging yahoo.com [98.137.149.56] with 1480 bytes of data:

Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.

Ping statistics for 98.137.149.56:
  Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

Thank you for your help







pls help about mtu setting

2010-06-17 Thread Deric Kwok
Hi

My DSL company asks me to set the modem 146 2 and my old company used 14 92

What is the different?

Why it is not standard 1 500?

Thank you



Re: pls help about mtu setting

2010-06-17 Thread Bret Clark

google (or any search engine) is your friend.

http://www.google.com/search?aq=fsourceid=chromeie=UTF-8q=mtu+1492+dsl 
http://www.google.com/search?aq=fsourceid=chromeie=UTF-8q=mtu+1492+dsl

On 06/17/2010 08:19 AM, Deric Kwok wrote:

Hi

My DSL company asks me to set the modem 146 2 and my old company used 14 92

What is the different?

Why it is not standard 1 500?

Thank you

   




Re: pls help about mtu setting

2010-06-17 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Deric Kwok deric.kwok2...@gmail.com wrote:
 My DSL company asks me to set the modem 146 2 and my old company used 14 92
 Why it is not standard 1 500?

Because they're wrapping your packet inside another packet that they
then transmit on a line with a 1500 byte MTU. The header on their
packet needs a few bytes, so you can't have them.

Regards,
Bill Herrin




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Re: pls help about mtu setting

2010-06-17 Thread Tom Pipes
Are you authenticating with PPPoE?  If so, it has a maximum MTU size of 1492 
due to the encapsulation overhead. 

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Essex Telcom Inc 
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- Original Message - 
From: William Herrin b...@herrin.us 
To: Deric Kwok deric.kwok2...@gmail.com 
Cc: nanog list nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:36:00 AM 
Subject: Re: pls help about mtu setting 

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Deric Kwok deric.kwok2...@gmail.com wrote: 
 My DSL company asks me to set the modem 146 2 and my old company used 14 92 
 Why it is not standard 1 500? 

Because they're wrapping your packet inside another packet that they 
then transmit on a line with a 1500 byte MTU. The header on their 
packet needs a few bytes, so you can't have them. 

Regards, 
Bill Herrin 




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William D. Herrin  her...@dirtside.com  b...@herrin.us 
3005 Crane Dr. .. Web: http://bill.herrin.us/ 
Falls Church, VA 22042-3004