Re: question about bgp incremental updates

2014-08-04 Thread arbor.net

On Aug 4, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Song Li refresh.ls...@gmail.com wrote:

 According to this principle, if an AS suddenly announced a lot of updates (as 
 below), can it be regarded as an anomaly such as BGP session reset?

Yes.  It's wise to monitor BGP announcements received from peers, and to 
investigate when large numbers of announcements or withdrawals take place 
simultaneously.

 I wish to know if there are other reasons can result in this anomaly.

Human error, deliberate disaggregation for traffic-engineering purposes, 
accidental or deliberate hijacking, turning up new peering links, et. al. can 
result in sudden flurries of route announcements/withdrawals.

--
Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net // http://www.arbornetworks.com

   Equo ne credite, Teucri.

  -- Laocoön



Re: question about bgp incremental updates

2014-08-04 Thread Mateusz Viste

Hi,

I can think of two reasons for such behavior:

- one of the attributes of these routes changed suddenly, so they have 
been reannounced by your peer,
- you sent a 'route refresh' request to this peer, asking him to 
reannounce all his table.


Other than that, I don't see why a peer would resend lots of 
already-announced prefixes..


cheers,
Mateusz




On 08/04/2014 04:29 AM, Song Li wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have a question about bgp updates:

BGP uses an incremental update strategy to conserve bandwidth and
processing power.  That is, after initial exchange of complete routing
information, a pair of BGP routers exchanges only the changes to that
information. ( from RFC4274)

According to this principle, if an AS suddenly announced a lot of
updates (as below), can it be regarded as an anomaly such as BGP session
reset? I wish to know if there are other reasons can result in this
anomaly.

Thanks!

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BGP4MP|04/23/14 

question about bgp incremental updates

2014-08-03 Thread Song Li

Hi everyone,

I have a question about bgp updates:

BGP uses an incremental update strategy to conserve bandwidth and 
processing power.  That is, after initial exchange of complete routing 
information, a pair of BGP routers exchanges only the changes to that 
information. ( from RFC4274)


According to this principle, if an AS suddenly announced a lot of 
updates (as below), can it be regarded as an anomaly such as BGP session 
reset? I wish to know if there are other reasons can result in this anomaly.


Thanks!

BGP4MP|04/23/14 13:05:12|A|216.218.252.164|6939|218.189.24.0/24|6939 
15412 9304|IGP
BGP4MP|04/23/14 13:05:12|A|216.218.252.164|6939|218.189.28.0/24|6939 
15412 9304|IGP
BGP4MP|04/23/14 13:05:12|A|216.218.252.164|6939|218.189.16.0/24|6939 
15412 9304|IGP
BGP4MP|04/23/14 13:05:12|A|216.218.252.164|6939|218.189.20.0/24|6939 
15412 9304|IGP
BGP4MP|04/23/14 13:05:12|A|216.218.252.164|6939|218.189.16.0/20|6939 
15412 9304|IGP
BGP4MP|04/23/14 13:05:12|A|216.218.252.164|6939|218.189.12.0/24|6939 
15412 9304|IGP
BGP4MP|04/23/14 13:05:12|A|216.218.252.164|6939|218.189.12.0/22|6939 
15412 9304|IGP
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4436 25973 9304|IGP
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