Re: qwest.net dropping packets... wife would like someone to pick them up please...

2012-11-04 Thread PC
For some more information, this previous document and presentation make
good resources:

Document:

http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog47/presentations/Sunday/RAS_Traceroute_N47_Sun.pdf

There's also a presentation here:

http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog45/presentations/Interpret_traceroutes.wmv




On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Randy randy_94...@yahoo.com wrote:

 --- On Sat, 11/3/12, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:

  From: Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: qwest.net dropping packets... wife would like someone to
 pick them up please...
  To: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com
  Cc: North American Network Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org
  Date: Saturday, November 3, 2012, 7:04 PM
  On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Randy
  Bush ra...@psg.com
  wrote:
   one router along the path showing loss that does
  not continue to
   affect the rest of the path simply means the cpu on
  that router
   is a bit too busy to respond to icmp messages
  
   trivial footnote: some folk configure some routers to
  rate limit
   icmp
 
  other trivial footnote, not all traceroute is icmp.
 
  True, wrt to destination. However all intermediate(including penultimate)
 hops reveal themselves via ICMP type 11 Code 0 (TTL exceeded in transit)
 ./Randy





Re: qwest.net dropping packets... wife would like someone to pick them up please...

2012-11-03 Thread Randy Bush
 one router along the path showing loss that does not continue to
 affect the rest of the path simply means the cpu on that router
 is a bit too busy to respond to icmp messages

trivial footnote: some folk configure some routers to rate limit
icmp

randy



Re: qwest.net dropping packets... wife would like someone to pick them up please...

2012-11-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
 one router along the path showing loss that does not continue to
 affect the rest of the path simply means the cpu on that router
 is a bit too busy to respond to icmp messages

 trivial footnote: some folk configure some routers to rate limit
 icmp

other trivial footnote, not all traceroute is icmp.



Re: qwest.net dropping packets... wife would like someone to pick them up please...

2012-11-03 Thread Randy
--- On Sat, 11/3/12, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: qwest.net dropping packets... wife would like someone to pick 
 them up please...
 To: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com
 Cc: North American Network Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org
 Date: Saturday, November 3, 2012, 7:04 PM
 On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Randy
 Bush ra...@psg.com
 wrote:
  one router along the path showing loss that does
 not continue to
  affect the rest of the path simply means the cpu on
 that router
  is a bit too busy to respond to icmp messages
 
  trivial footnote: some folk configure some routers to
 rate limit
  icmp
 
 other trivial footnote, not all traceroute is icmp.
 
 True, wrt to destination. However all intermediate(including penultimate) hops 
reveal themselves via ICMP type 11 Code 0 (TTL exceeded in transit)
./Randy




qwest.net dropping packets... wife would like someone to pick them up please...

2012-11-02 Thread Don Gould

Hi all,

Hope you're all getting on top of Sandy.

Trying to hit kajabi.com, I'm getting up to 60% packet loss off 
qwest.net - dca2-edge-02.inet.qwest.net


A bit of quick googleing and we assumed that they're on the west coast 
of US, so please excuse (and just ignore me) if you're on the east coast 
and this is being caused by all the Sandy issues (yes I've been 
following the Outage list and think you guys are just doing an amazing 
job right now!!!)


Re the subject - told the wife that her problem is likely being caused 
by packets being dropped by qwest, her response can someone pick them 
up for me plse :)



mx.8013.yournet.co.nz (0.0.0.0)Sat Nov  3 
16:43:18 2012

Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
   Packets   Pings
 HostLoss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best 
Wrst StDev
 1. router0.0%390.2   0.2   0.2 
0.3   0.0

 2. ???
 3. 218.101.61.1010.0%399.1  21.8   7.0 
173.6  33.4
 4. ie2-g-0-0-0.telstraclear.net  0.0%39   38.0  22.9  19.6 
38.0   3.5
 5. ge-0-2-0-1.xcore1.acld.telstracl  0.0%39   22.2  22.9  18.9 
38.5   3.9
 6. unknown.telstraglobal.net 0.0%39   23.4  22.1  17.6 
26.4   1.4
 7. i-0-6-1-0.tlot-core01.bx.telstra  0.0%39  153.4 153.3 151.2 
163.9   2.3
 8. i-4-2.eqla01.bi.telstraglobal.ne  0.0%39  147.0 154.8 143.5 
313.8  27.7
 9. lap-brdr-04.inet.qwest.net0.0%39  154.2 154.5 152.0 
159.2   1.6
10. dca2-edge-02.inet.qwest.net  10.5%39  221.0 223.1 217.1 
247.6   6.6
11. 67.133.224.1940.0%39  220.8 222.2 216.3 
268.6   8.1
12. 72.21.220.161 0.0%39  221.2 225.3 217.6 
268.2  10.8
13. 72.21.222.139 0.0%38  220.9 222.8 216.6 
266.6   7.5
14. 216.182.224.8 0.0%38  221.3 223.2 220.5 
243.9   4.1

15. ???

D
--
Don Gould
31 Acheson Ave
Mairehau
Christchurch, New Zealand
Ph: + 64 3 348 7235
Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699




Re: qwest.net dropping packets... wife would like someone to pick them up please...

2012-11-02 Thread Matthew Petach
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Don Gould d...@bowenvale.co.nz wrote:
 Hi all,

 Hope you're all getting on top of Sandy.

 Trying to hit kajabi.com, I'm getting up to 60% packet loss off qwest.net -
 dca2-edge-02.inet.qwest.net

 A bit of quick googleing and we assumed that they're on the west coast of
 US, so please excuse (and just ignore me) if you're on the east coast and
 this is being caused by all the Sandy issues (yes I've been following the
 Outage list and think you guys are just doing an amazing job right now!!!)

 Re the subject - told the wife that her problem is likely being caused by
 packets being dropped by qwest, her response can someone pick them up for
 me plse :)


 mx.8013.yournet.co.nz (0.0.0.0)Sat Nov  3 16:43:18
 2012
 Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
Packets   Pings
  HostLoss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best Wrst
 StDev
  1. router0.0%390.2   0.2   0.2 0.3
 0.0
  2. ???
  3. 218.101.61.1010.0%399.1  21.8   7.0 173.6
 33.4
  4. ie2-g-0-0-0.telstraclear.net  0.0%39   38.0  22.9  19.6 38.0
 3.5
  5. ge-0-2-0-1.xcore1.acld.telstracl  0.0%39   22.2  22.9  18.9 38.5
 3.9
  6. unknown.telstraglobal.net 0.0%39   23.4  22.1  17.6 26.4
 1.4
  7. i-0-6-1-0.tlot-core01.bx.telstra  0.0%39  153.4 153.3 151.2 163.9
 2.3
  8. i-4-2.eqla01.bi.telstraglobal.ne  0.0%39  147.0 154.8 143.5 313.8
 27.7
  9. lap-brdr-04.inet.qwest.net0.0%39  154.2 154.5 152.0 159.2
 1.6
 10. dca2-edge-02.inet.qwest.net  10.5%39  221.0 223.1 217.1 247.6
 6.6
 11. 67.133.224.1940.0%39  220.8 222.2 216.3 268.6
 8.1
 12. 72.21.220.161 0.0%39  221.2 225.3 217.6 268.2
 10.8
 13. 72.21.222.139 0.0%38  220.9 222.8 216.6 266.6
 7.5
 14. 216.182.224.8 0.0%38  221.3 223.2 220.5 243.9
 4.1
 15. ???

 D
 --
 Don Gould
 31 Acheson Ave
 Mairehau
 Christchurch, New Zealand
 Ph: + 64 3 348 7235
 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699




Hi Don,

based on your mtr output, there's no loss to the
end destination; one router along the path showing
loss that does not continue to affect the rest of the
path simply means the cpu on that router is a bit
too busy to respond to icmp messages; but there's
0% loss beyond it, which means it's doing its primary
job of forwarding packets just fine.

Thanks, and have a wonderful weekend!

Matt



Re: qwest.net dropping packets... wife would like someone to pick them up please...

2012-11-02 Thread Don Gould

Hi Matt (and other helpful posters off list),

Yes, makes sense.

I'm told this pops up twice a month, so opps, clearly I need to spend 
more time reading and learning! :)


Thanks to the person who pointed out the PTR rec suggests that the 
impacted resource might be more west than I realised.  I confess I don't 
know the .us very well at all.


D

On 3/11/2012 6:43 p.m., Matthew Petach wrote:
Hi Don, based on your mtr output, there's no loss to the end 
destination; one router along the path showing loss that does not 
continue to affect the rest of the path simply means the cpu on that 
router is a bit too busy to respond to icmp messages; but there's 0% 
loss beyond it, which means it's doing its primary job of forwarding 
packets just fine. Thanks, and have a wonderful weekend! Matt 



--
Don Gould
31 Acheson Ave
Mairehau
Christchurch, New Zealand
Ph: + 64 3 348 7235
Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699