Re: self-promotion [was: 198.32.64.12 -- Harmless mis-route or potential exploit?]

2008-09-02 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:40:38 -0400
Patrick W. Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [SNIP]
 
 Just so that I am clear on your issue here: You believe it is okay  
 for you to put your linkedin URL in your .sig, but Gadi must not be  
 allowed to put it at the top of a post? 

Yes, I think that's exactly right.  It's a statement of what the sender
perceives to be important about the email.  I read email for the
content; having the URL at the top is an assertion by the poster that
he thinks his resume is more important than what he says.  (Yes, I know
some of you are about to hit reply to say maybe it is from Gadi.
Don't bother -- what he says is often quite valuable.)


--Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb



Re: self-promotion [was: 198.32.64.12 -- Harmless mis-route or potential exploit?]

2008-09-02 Thread Gadi Evron

On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:

On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:40:38 -0400
Patrick W. Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


[SNIP]

Just so that I am clear on your issue here: You believe it is okay
for you to put your linkedin URL in your .sig, but Gadi must not be
allowed to put it at the top of a post?


Yes, I think that's exactly right.  It's a statement of what the sender
perceives to be important about the email.  I read email for the


I agree, which is why this fluke in not deleting the last line with ctrk+k 
as PINE appends signature lines at the top of the post by default--was 
awkward. Good thing I don't much get deterred by awkward.


Still, I bet this is going to be a huge thread yet again. No one 
appends any URL at the footer--not even me! ;) But folks with no content 
to contribute would naturally jump at it like they would at even just a 
typo.


I suppose it is only natural when you become a celebrity of any sort--you 
draw all sorts of attention. At first my thick skin helped, nowadays I 
just find it amusing.


Folks flooded mailing lists spoofing my name (creating ASCII art of Beavis 
or a swastika) using the subject lines. They flooded yet again, with furry 
porn pictures attached. They launched fan blogs, created an Encyclopedia 
Dramatica entry...


I've had a comic strip made about me, a song written about me, a fake 
craigslist entry... all of course, serving as a boost to my ego--knowing 
now I must have made it! ;-)


There was a blackhat presentation which in part was about how someone 
faked a social network account being me, and how he almost got an 
informationweek interview as me out of it--I was on to him.


Most recently, someone created a comic-strip in ASCII about me (very 
funny, but R rated, so don't go if you find that type of thing offensive).

It's from the now I know I've made it! department:

http://fr.pastebin.ca/raw/1094119

To wrap this up, I don't often (at all) use signature lines, but I do have 
them and out of habit delete them with almost every new posting from the 
footer.


I had two VERY self-depricating (and very funny) quotes, before, which 
also were not often used, anyone remember?


1.
beepbeep it, i leave work, stop reading sec lists and im still hearing 
gadi - HD Moore to Gadi Evron on IM, on Gadi's interview on npr, March 
2007.


2. 
*FART*

-- Avi Freedman to Gadi Evron in a Chinese restaurant, Boston 2007.

To even things out, my new barely ever used footer signature, is:

-
You don't need your firewalls! Gadi is Israel's firewall.
-- Itzik (Isaac) Cohen, Computers czar, Senior Deputy to the Accountant 
General,
   Israel's Ministry of Finance, at the government's CIO conference, 2005.

(after two very funny self-deprication quotes, time to even things up!)

My profile and resume:
http://www.linkedin.com/in/gadievron
--

So, I missed one line and it stuck at the footer and no one noticed it 
except the trolls. Now that the awkward moment is over and I made the 
unnecessary yet required explanation... can we move on?


I really should use the man page and see how I move the signature from the 
footer in PINE.


Thanks for the free advertisement of my resume, trolls! Appreciated.

Gadi.



content; having the URL at the top is an assertion by the poster that
he thinks his resume is more important than what he says.  (Yes, I know
some of you are about to hit reply to say maybe it is from Gadi.
Don't bother -- what he says is often quite valuable.)


--Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb