Re: mail operators list

2007-10-30 Thread Randy Bush
 Mail seems to be one of those topics which is of interest to many nanog
 subscribers, but simultaneously annoying to many (presumably different)
 nanog subscribers.

what large subject does not fall in this category?  this is just life
when you have a large community.

randy


Re: mail operators list

2007-10-30 Thread Randy Bush
 The NANOG mailing list has never been in good order.
 
 The NANOG meetings have always had complaints.
 
 The NANOG community is composed of disparate parties with disparate
 interests, each convinced that their interests are the only ones of
 operation relevance.

it would all be so much simpler if the humans were removed from the
equation.  such funny monkeys we.

randy


Re: mlc files formal complaint against me

2007-10-08 Thread Randy Bush
 dunce cap on 

irrelevant to the mlc action, but ...

as someone just pointed out to me, i was confusing two ex-ceos of qwest,
joe nacchio, who is a convicted felon, with sol trujillo, who is not,
but is currently the ceo of telstra.

apologies.

randy


Re: mlc files formal complaint against me

2007-10-08 Thread Randy Bush
http://rip.psg.com/~randy/mlc-complaint.mbox



Re: More wiki questions...

2007-08-10 Thread Randy Bush
Lynda wrote:
 I just hate politics, hurt feelings, and other stuff, so I'm asking here
 first. There's a nice NANOG 40 link on the front of the Wiki, but that's
 over. I'm thinking it ought not to disappear, but rather move off to a
 Prior NANOG Meetings (there's some great links to restaurants that I'd
 hate to see lost, and other useful stuff as well). Then there could be a
 NANOG 41 link instead (or perhaps a Current Meeting, which would lead
 off to NANOG 41 for now).

sounds cool!  good not to lose that stuff.

 It's also my intent to look at the old FAQ, see what's missing in the
 Wiki (and there are some things, for better or worse, that might be),
 and put it all in one spot. Then, I really, really, really think that
 the FAQ ought to go away, to be entirely replaced by the Wiki (which is
 now far more up to date).

seems like a plan

randy



Re: meeting in the Dominican Republic

2007-02-26 Thread Randy Bush
 I don't know how many people that attended NANOG in Toronto had to go
 through the international travel approval that some of us had to.

probably not the canadians.

this is NAnog, not USnog, so that's just gonna be a fact of life.

 perhaps we saw a huge attendance dip at Toronto

the opposite

randy



Re: Is there another NANOG somewhere?

2007-02-15 Thread Randy Bush
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg45167.html is
about volume.

for me, it's not the volume, per se.  it is the shameless and (should
be) embarrassing self-promotion, the copying and reposting of others'
ideas and work, ...  and it's not only gadi, but he makes such a good
example.

randy