Re: [nanog-admin] NANOG Elections

2007-10-17 Thread Martin Hannigan
On 10/16/07, Jared Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 01:03:36PM -0400, Martin Hannigan wrote:
> > At 60 votes, that's .6% participation. If we don't hit at least 2, we
> > ought to seriously consider disbanding the current "evolution".
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> If that means the disbanding of NANOG is that acceptable?


I don't see how the two are inextricably linked. There would be no
reason for nanog to discontinue as a result of disbanding the
bureaucracy.

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> I think the numbers may slightly mislead here as Betty told
> me privately the other day, roughly 30% (or was it 1/3) of attendees
> do not return to nanog.  That is someone that is in the voter pool that
> is not likely to vote.

Not intentionally. The numbers I usually use for this stuff are a
superset of subscribers to the list plus digest. I believe that the
8400 list members count.

We didn't need any framework or MLC to get AUP changes done.
We needed some work.

-M<


Re: [nanog-admin] NANOG Elections

2007-10-16 Thread Jared Mauch
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 01:03:36PM -0400, Martin Hannigan wrote:
> At 60 votes, that's .6% participation. If we don't hit at least 2, we
> ought to seriously consider disbanding the current "evolution".

If that means the disbanding of NANOG is that acceptable?

I think the numbers may slightly mislead here as Betty told
me privately the other day, roughly 30% (or was it 1/3) of attendees 
do not return to nanog.  That is someone that is in the voter pool that
is not likely to vote.

I do think we need to change the voting process to include an
individual message (read: SPAM) to each person saying "btw, you can
vote the bums out that made that conference you didn't return to".

- Jared

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Re: [nanog-admin] NANOG Elections

2007-10-16 Thread Martin Hannigan
At 60 votes, that's .6% participation. If we don't hit at least 2, we
ought to seriously consider disbanding the current "evolution".

-M<



On 10/16/07, Betty J. Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All:
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> Please encourage everyone to take advantage of the process ..
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> Voting activity picked up a lot this morning, but if the level of
> participation doesn't increase rapidly, we may have a lower
> turnout than last year.  I think last year we had about 160 ballots cast.
>
> Betty
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