Re: [Nanog-futures] Conference Network Experiment policy

[Martin Hannigan]

Its pretty easy to assign a Creative Commons license to the work and
share it, for example. What could the possible objections be?

Best,

Marty

On 4/9/09, Joel Jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote:


 Martin Hannigan wrote:


 On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Joe Provo nanog-...@rsuc.gweep.net
 mailto:nanog-...@rsuc.gweep.net wrote:



 Thanks for the feedback - please do keep it coming!  We'll pop out
 an updated draft to reflect the concensus when some equilibrium is
 reached, but just to comment on some of the questions and points
 raised so far (both on-list and off):


 - Costs were intended to be covered under the Have finite and
  well-defined requirements for support [...] (WRT static/sunk
  costs of labour, etc) and a statement regarding resources the
  proposer is committing to supply (WRT money or specific equipment
  needed for the experiment).  The draft will be updated to make
  both more explict.
 -



 It would be interesting to suggest that a copy of all raw data collected
 to be provided back to the community so that they too could share in the
 research or create derivatives from it (with proper attribution for all
 work product of course).

 As a goal that's exactly the opposite of how we've done it in the past.
 not sure that it's necessarily a bad idea, just saying.

 Best,

 Martin


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Re: [Nanog-futures] Conference Network Experiment policy

[Martin Hannigan]

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Joel Jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote:

 So, in the distant past we (there are several we's in this case)
 experimentally deployed IDSes and or inline sniffers with the permission
 of merit staff under the requirement that all the data collected be
 destroyed when the meeting was over. Some of these experiments resulted
 in the announcement of results, some were simply to get an understanding
 of dense wireless network deployments, deal with rogue systems, or
 evaluate the technology.

 Like I said, I could see alternatives and circumstances were other
 approaches would be appropriate, But I would probably not avail myself
 of an experiment where the result to be for example a published set of
 flow data or catch-all packet traces from the meeting.


That's the beauty of full disclosure? :-) Seems like history warrants this
as well. I have been lucky enough to not have had my password captured (as
far as I am aware) during these experiments and then have it broadcast
during the meeting. :-)

I'm thinking opt-in with data required to be under CC licensing and shared
with attribution seems responsible and valuable to the community.


Thanks for the follow-up!


Best,

Martin

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