Re: [Nanog-futures] spam-l list

2009-08-07 Thread Rich Kulawiec
Your points are excellent, and this one bears emphasis:

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 01:15:46PM +0100, Graeme Fowler wrote:
> As a complete ecosystem, it's possible to make the MTA do some of the
> rejections before ever reaching mailman.

On the sites where I'm running Mailman, the overwhelming majority
of the rejections are done before traffic gets anywhere near Mailman.
Some of it is handled by the firewalls, and some of it is handled
by the MTAs, but the end result is that nearly all (well over 99%)
of rejections are done in-band during the incoming SMTP connection.
Anything that makes it past that and still looks dubious is held for
moderator attention, and they are trained to handle it in ways that
don't cause backscatter.

---Rsk

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Re: [Nanog-futures] Updates to the MLC warning process

2009-08-07 Thread Gadi Evron
kris foster wrote:
> 7. Thread moderation
> 
> The MLC may filter off-topic threads on the list. When a post is  
> moderated the poster will receive a message indicating the thread is  
> being moderated and only on-topic posts will be forwarded to the list.
> ==
> 

Beg pardon, but does this include a message to the list itself or only 
to the offender?

Also, does any off-topic thread get filtered immediately or only after a 
certain noise ratio? We have seen how the Dan Kaminsky one, as a recent 
example, became operational as members took it there.

Gadi.


> We welcome any feedback on this.
> 
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> Kris
> on behalf of the MLC
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