Re: [Nanog-futures] an alternate proposal for NewNOG ’s membership structure
Hi, Early bird registrations provide cash flow to make hotel deposit commitments. If all members get early birds rate and register at the last possible minute, that dings the cash flow and increase liabilities for the organizers. One month before the conference, we typically need to have paid down 30k to the hotel, so the 100 or so early birds are important. Also, early birds was a way to entice people to register early and build a critical mass of attendees. Newcomers may decide to join if there is a critical mass of attendees already, it can help them justify attending to their management. So I see a clear distinction in early bird rate (cash flow help) vice discounting registration fees for members. I support both and want us to make sure that we are not losing sight of the financial timing. Regards, Sylvie Envoyé de mon terminal mobile BlackBerry par le biais du réseau de Rogers Sans-fil -Original Message- From: Daniel Golding dgold...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 11:51:09 To: Randy Bushra...@psg.com Cc: Nanog Futuresnanog-futures@nanog.org Subject: Re: [Nanog-futures] an alternate proposal for NewNOG ’s membership structure ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
Re: [Nanog-futures] an alternate proposal for NewNOG ’s membership structure
On 12/28/10 10:13 AM, laperriere.syl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Early bird registrations provide cash flow to make hotel deposit commitments. If all members get early birds rate and register at the last possible minute, that dings the cash flow and increase liabilities for the organizers. One month before the conference, we typically need to have paid down 30k to the hotel, so the 100 or so early birds are important. Also, early birds was a way to entice people to register early and build a critical mass of attendees. Newcomers may decide to join if there is a critical mass of attendees already, it can help them justify attending to their management. So I see a clear distinction in early bird rate (cash flow help) vice discounting registration fees for members. I support both and want us to make sure that we are not losing sight of the financial timing. Precisely my point. The wording of the proposal was that if you were a member you lost the early bird discount. Membership discount couldn't be combined with any other discount. This doesn't seem right. I don't see a problem with allowing both early bird and membership discounts. If it's a situation with wording, call the early bird rate the regular price and the rate after cutoff Late registration so that it isn't called a discount. If the membership dues are greater than the sum of early bird differentials for meetings attended in a year, then it makes financial sense NOT to join if you lose the early bird benefit. -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - j...@impulse.net Impulse Internet Service - http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
Re: [Nanog-futures] an alternate proposal for NewNOG's membership structure
SNIP If the membership dues are greater than the sum of early bird differentials for meetings attended in a year, then it makes financial sense NOT to join if you lose the early bird benefit. SNIP Jay- I see your point here, but I would just also like to point out that I would think membership, in attendance or not, will be allowed to participate in elections, while non-member attendees will not. - Brian J. * Please note that all list members and archive readers may consider themselves Recipients of this message, in reference to the appended notice. (I don't add it myself and can't control it, sorry.) CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, copying, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures