Re: [Nanog-futures] Proposed bylaws for NewNOG

2010-09-21 Thread Gareth Eason
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Hi,

Firstly, as a non-American I like the idea of codifying that there is a
clear international remit for the organisation - as per Michael's
previous mail.

Secondly, are you completely wedded to the name NewNOG - while it's
been a useful working title I'm coming to the opinion that as a
long-term name it lacks meaning (or subverts meaning over time, which is
arguably worse.) Remember that anything new will, with the passage of
time, cease to be new. I hope that the intent is that this new
organisation will be a long lived venture, living far beyond what anyone
might reasonably refer to as 'New' :)

Just my thoughts.
Best regards,
--Gar


On 20/09/10 22:05, Daniel Golding wrote:
 Just as an FYI - a lot of the membership stuff got cribbed from IEEE
 (thanks, IEEE guys!), as they are a related group and there's no need
 to reinvent the wheel. That being said, there will be a few cases like
 this, where we'll need to clean up the verbiage. There is nothing
 actually implied here - I don't think anyone will be screening
 people's membership apps and demanding resumes.
 
 In regard to Rose's comment on management - agreed. That was my omission.
 
 - Dan
 
 On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:02 AM, J Springer j...@jspringer.net wrote:
 The NewNOG governance working group, chaired by Steve Gibbard, has 
 published a set of proposed bylaws for the corporation.  These may be found 
 at:

 If these issues have been resolved and I missed them, apologies in advance.

 Would you elaborate on 5.1 Membership Qualifications:

   ... who by experience or education give evidence ...

 Is this gathered during the application process?


 Regarding 5.2.3 Life Member:

   ... must maintain qualifications for membership to
remain in good standing.

 It's not a Life membership if that membership may be revoked and/or the
 application process has to be repeated even though dues have been paid.  
 Perhaps
 it should be labeled differently.

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Re: [Nanog-futures] Proposed bylaws for NewNOG

2010-09-21 Thread Gareth Eason
On 21/09/10 12:46, Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
[snip]
 
 Hi Gareth,
 
 There is a trope among American entrepreneurs wherein one refers to a
 new, yet to be formally named company as NewCo or NewCorp.  This
[snip]

Thanks - that's not a convention I had come across, but very pleased to 
see
that it is merely a placeholder :)

Best regards,
--Gar

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