Re: [Nanog-futures] [NANOG-announce] The Evolution of NANOG

2010-04-15 Thread Steve Meuse
vijay gill expunged (vg...@vijaygill.com):

> What were some specific issues.

It's not my intention to re-hash that last four years of community meetings 
(maybe you some show up more frequently?) :)

-Steve


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Re: [Nanog-futures] [NANOG-announce] The Evolution of NANOG

2010-04-15 Thread Steve Meuse
vijay gill expunged (vg...@vijaygill.com):

> > I'll second that. I'll admit to my jaw dropping when I read the 
> > announcement, but I think it's the direction we need to go (and maybe even 
> > long overdue). Merit has done a great job, but I think the nature of the 
> > relationship has needed to change.
> 
> Any specifics that required the nature of the relationship to change?

Although Merit worked hard in recent years to take more of a community 
approach, in the end, Merit has final say on all things Nanog. In my personal 
opinion, that needs to change. Are we an independent community based 
organization, or a community based organization that has parental supervision?

-Steve




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Re: [Nanog-futures] [NANOG-announce] The Evolution of NANOG

2010-04-15 Thread Steve Meuse
Randy Bush expunged (ra...@psg.com):

> thanks steve.  this is certainly a step forward in nanog's evolution,
> and one i hope and presume will be positive.  hard work for you, but
> really it's mostly just business.  we did it with arin, and that has
> worked out.  and, despite the undoubted ton of blah blah that will come
> on the list(s), you know that the large core of the community supports
> your efforts, and some can even be called upon to help with the work.

I'll second that. I'll admit to my jaw dropping when I read the announcement, 
but I think it's the direction we need to go (and maybe even long overdue). 
Merit has done a great job, but I think the nature of the relationship has 
needed to change. 

-Steve


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Re: [Nanog-futures] Media at NANOG conferences

2008-07-17 Thread Steve Meuse
Philip Smith expunged ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> We'd like to hear the community's opinion on this. We've drafted a 
> "Media Policy" based on what other events like ours do; see the 
> attachment below... Any opinions? Constructive suggestions?

I'm not very comfortable having the media at the meeting. There is a certain 
amount of free trade of information and ideas that flows and having the media 
may stifle that. 

At San Jose, at one of the after parties, I was in a conversation with another 
engineer when someone joined our conversation and didn't identify herself 
immediately. After about 15-20 minutes she handed me a card, she was a reporter 
for one of the local San Jose papers. I started to freak out a little..."what 
have I said out loud over the past 15 minutes!". What we were talking about 
could have *easily* been taken out of context

Granted, that wasn't a NANOG specific event, but I felt the trust was violated 
a bit...

-Steve


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