Re: [Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please

2007-12-04 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Dec 4, 2007 1:19 AM, vijay gill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On 12/3/07, Martin Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This is the second time someone from the Program Committee has posted
  something that seemed to be asking for something to help our success
  or informing people about standard (revenue generating even) functions
  of NANOG and that they believe that these types of emails related to
  the conference program are not relevant to the main list.


 Marty, put down the rock made from crack.

Stop holding the torche then. Really, it's innocuous. I'm just asking.

-M

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Re: [Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please

2007-12-04 Thread Robert E. Seastrom

Martin Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This is the second time someone from the Program Committee has posted
 something that seemed to be asking for something to help our success
 or informing people about standard (revenue generating even) functions
 of NANOG and that they believe that these types of emails related to
 the conference program are not relevant to the main list.

 Why is that?

First, it was a post to -futures; whether or not it was off-topic for
the main list is completely beside the point.  Even if it was on the
main list though (and frankly, I think it SHOULD HAVE been posted to
the main list), this is a CFP for *our own conference*.  How on earth
could it be not relevant to the main list?

Please do us all a favor and stop undermining the credibility of your
colleagues on the MLC with this tripe.  Looking for opportunities to
twist the words of the AUP does not serve anyone's interests.  

---Rob (no longer on the MLC, no hat)



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Re: [Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please

2007-12-04 Thread Simon Lyall

I have no idea what is going on here but can the people on various
committees please resign, fire, stage coups or whatever in private rather
than involving innocent list members (and The Register reporters
scanning the archives) who can't really participate since we only see 10%
of what is happening.

Please post a summary of the updated Committee/Administrator membership
once this is over.

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Re: [Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please

2007-12-04 Thread Ren Provo
The most interesting part of my attempt to spark participation in
future meetings is that Merit reminded me of a mailing list I hadn't
given any thought to at all - NANOG Announce.  Perhaps that is where
the plea for assistance should have been distributed.  I didn't post
it on the main list to prevent a thirty-man thread about how it
wouldn't fit into a switch, router, or electrical outlet in an
exchange point.  Meeting preparation seemed to be more futures and
less operations focused.  I just wanted to give an opportunity for
those with good intent to make the deadline.  Period.

Cheers, -Ren Provo, Program Committee

On Dec 4, 2007 6:37 AM, David Barak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- On Tue, 12/4/07, Robert E. Seastrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  From: Robert E. Seastrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please
  To: Martin Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tuesday, December 4, 2007, 5:55 AM

  Martin Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  writes:
 
   This is the second time someone from the Program
  Committee has posted
   something that seemed to be asking for something to
  help our success
   or informing people about standard (revenue generating
  even) functions
   of NANOG and that they believe that these types of
  emails related to
   the conference program are not relevant to the main
  list.
  
   Why is that?
 
  First, it was a post to -futures; whether or not it was
  off-topic for
  the main list is completely beside the point.  Even if it
  was on the
  main list though (and frankly, I think it SHOULD HAVE been
  posted to
  the main list), this is a CFP for *our own conference*.
  How on earth
  could it be not relevant to the main list?
 
  Please do us all a favor and stop undermining the
  credibility of your
  colleagues on the MLC with this tripe.  Looking for
  opportunities to
  twist the words of the AUP does not serve anyone's
  interests.

 I think Marty was asking why it was posted to -futures rather than to the 
 main list, with the implication that it would have been on-topic there, and 
 would certainly reach a wider audience.

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Re: [Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please

2007-12-04 Thread Martin Hannigan
It was a legit question and I thought exactly the same thing about it
going to the list and was checking before I forwarded it.
  When I do speak as someone
from the MLC, Ill say so. I usually do.
   May have been easier to ask what I meant before jumping the gun.

On 12/4/07, Robert E. Seastrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Martin Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  This is the second time someone from the Program Committee has posted
  something that seemed to be asking for something to help our success
  or informing people about standard (revenue generating even) functions
  of NANOG and that they believe that these types of emails related to
  the conference program are not relevant to the main list.
 
  Why is that?

 First, it was a post to -futures; whether or not it was off-topic for
 the main list is completely beside the point.  Even if it was on the
 main list though (and frankly, I think it SHOULD HAVE been posted to
 the main list), this is a CFP for *our own conference*.  How on earth
 could it be not relevant to the main list?

 Please do us all a favor and stop undermining the credibility of your
 colleagues on the MLC with this tripe.  Looking for opportunities to
 twist the words of the AUP does not serve anyone's interests.

 ---Rob (no longer on the MLC, no hat)




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[Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please

2007-12-03 Thread Ren Provo
Hi folks,

This is a reminder to submit presentations for NANOG42 in San Jose, CA
to be held February 2008.  Quality abstracts have been arriving over
the past month.  A few people promised to send along presentations in
December.  If anyone has a work in progress to submit please do so
now.  The program committee will meet this week to pull together the
rough draft of the agenda for NANOG42.  We have confirmed a keynote
speaker and several interesting panels are on the schedule already.
We have some flexibility for tutorials on Sunday and a few general
assembly speaker slots at this point.  There will be blocks for
lightning talks each day and you may submit presentations in advance
of February.  This is a good thing based on survey info.   Our goal is
to set forth a solid agenda for folks to utilize when mulling travel
requests this month.

http://www.nanog.org/presentations.html is the best location to review
for complete submission guidelines.

Many thanks in advance!
-Ren Provo, Vice-Chair, NANOG Program Committee

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Re: [Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please

2007-12-03 Thread Martin Hannigan
This is the second time someone from the Program Committee has posted
something that seemed to be asking for something to help our success
or informing people about standard (revenue generating even) functions
of NANOG and that they believe that these types of emails related to
the conference program are not relevant to the main list.

Why is that?

-M




On Dec 3, 2007 1:09 PM, Ren Provo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi folks,

 This is a reminder to submit presentations for NANOG42 in San Jose, CA
 to be held February 2008.  Quality abstracts have been arriving over
 the past month.  A few people promised to send along presentations in
 December.  If anyone has a work in progress to submit please do so
 now.  The program committee will meet this week to pull together the
 rough draft of the agenda for NANOG42.  We have confirmed a keynote
 speaker and several interesting panels are on the schedule already.
 We have some flexibility for tutorials on Sunday and a few general
 assembly speaker slots at this point.  There will be blocks for
 lightning talks each day and you may submit presentations in advance
 of February.  This is a good thing based on survey info.   Our goal is
 to set forth a solid agenda for folks to utilize when mulling travel
 requests this month.

 http://www.nanog.org/presentations.html is the best location to review
 for complete submission guidelines.


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Re: [Nanog-futures] Get those presenations in for NANOG42 please

2007-12-03 Thread vijay gill
On 12/3/07, Martin Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is the second time someone from the Program Committee has posted
 something that seemed to be asking for something to help our success
 or informing people about standard (revenue generating even) functions
 of NANOG and that they believe that these types of emails related to
 the conference program are not relevant to the main list.



Marty, put down the rock made from crack.

/vijay


Why is that?

 -M




 On Dec 3, 2007 1:09 PM, Ren Provo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi folks,
 
  This is a reminder to submit presentations for NANOG42 in San Jose, CA
  to be held February 2008.  Quality abstracts have been arriving over
  the past month.  A few people promised to send along presentations in
  December.  If anyone has a work in progress to submit please do so
  now.  The program committee will meet this week to pull together the
  rough draft of the agenda for NANOG42.  We have confirmed a keynote
  speaker and several interesting panels are on the schedule already.
  We have some flexibility for tutorials on Sunday and a few general
  assembly speaker slots at this point.  There will be blocks for
  lightning talks each day and you may submit presentations in advance
  of February.  This is a good thing based on survey info.   Our goal is
  to set forth a solid agenda for folks to utilize when mulling travel
  requests this month.
 
  http://www.nanog.org/presentations.html is the best location to review
  for complete submission guidelines.
 

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