Re: [Nanog-futures] wazza plan
I'll send out a progress update later today, and we're working on a more detailed plan/budget to publish in advance of the community meeting. thank you! randy ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
Re: [Nanog-futures] wazza plan
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: nanog/sf approaches. will our illustrious leadership be sending out at least the basics of a business plan long enough before the meeting that we have time to treat it seriously as opposed to flying foils at the so called community meeting? i would hope to see, at a minimum, three year forward fairly detailed pro forma balance sheet, income statement, and cash flow. I vote we remove these clowns and give it back to merit. /vijay randy ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
Re: [Nanog-futures] wazza plan
nanog/sf approaches. will our illustrious leadership be sending out at least the basics of a business plan long enough before the meeting that we have time to treat it seriously as opposed to flying foils at the so called community meeting? i would hope to see, at a minimum, three year forward fairly detailed pro forma balance sheet, income statement, and cash flow. I vote we remove these clowns and give it back to merit. we have a few weeks to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they have a business plan. after all, it's simple biz 101. if no clear and believable biz plan *before* nanog, then indeed it is bozoville and something will have to be done to clean up their mess. randy ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
Re: [Nanog-futures] wazza plan
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: nanog/sf approaches. will our illustrious leadership be sending out at least the basics of a business plan long enough before the meeting that we have time to treat it seriously as opposed to flying foils at the so called community meeting? i would hope to see, at a minimum, three year forward fairly detailed pro forma balance sheet, income statement, and cash flow. I vote we remove these clowns and give it back to merit. we have a few weeks to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they have a business plan. after all, it's simple biz 101. I've been pinged out of band by several people I have respect for, I withdraw my statement and am willing now to wait for the plan as per your timeline. /vijay if no clear and believable biz plan *before* nanog, then indeed it is bozoville and something will have to be done to clean up their mess. randy ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
Re: [Nanog-futures] wazza plan
On May 27, 2010, at 2:02 AM, Randy Bush wrote: nanog/sf approaches. will our illustrious leadership be sending out at least the basics of a business plan long enough before the meeting that we have time to treat it seriously as opposed to flying foils at the so called community meeting? i would hope to see, at a minimum, three year forward fairly detailed pro forma balance sheet, income statement, and cash flow. I vote we remove these clowns and give it back to merit. we have a few weeks to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they have a business plan. after all, it's simple biz 101. if no clear and believable biz plan *before* nanog, then indeed it is bozoville and something will have to be done to clean up their mess. Irrespective of competence levels (we) elected these folks to serve in what they believe to be in the best interests of the NANOG community. As such, I've implicitly given them the benefit of the doubt to this point. However, in principle I fully agree with Randy and Vijay here, and believe that at least some informal communication on this topic, to illustrate they're listening and set some deliverables and associated timelines for the plan they're surely working, is quite reasonable, will kickoff their transparency agenda, and inform the community. Publishing a work plan for these efforts, even absent the details, is only reasonable. -danny ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
Re: [Nanog-futures] wazza plan
Randy, Vijay, and Danny are all correct, we owe you information. I'll send out a progress update later today, and we're working on a more detailed plan/budget to publish in advance of the community meeting. Steve On May 27, 2010, at 9:03 AM, Danny McPherson wrote: On May 27, 2010, at 2:02 AM, Randy Bush wrote: nanog/sf approaches. will our illustrious leadership be sending out at least the basics of a business plan long enough before the meeting that we have time to treat it seriously as opposed to flying foils at the so called community meeting? i would hope to see, at a minimum, three year forward fairly detailed pro forma balance sheet, income statement, and cash flow. I vote we remove these clowns and give it back to merit. we have a few weeks to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they have a business plan. after all, it's simple biz 101. if no clear and believable biz plan *before* nanog, then indeed it is bozoville and something will have to be done to clean up their mess. Irrespective of competence levels (we) elected these folks to serve in what they believe to be in the best interests of the NANOG community. As such, I've implicitly given them the benefit of the doubt to this point. However, in principle I fully agree with Randy and Vijay here, and believe that at least some informal communication on this topic, to illustrate they're listening and set some deliverables and associated timelines for the plan they're surely working, is quite reasonable, will kickoff their transparency agenda, and inform the community. Publishing a work plan for these efforts, even absent the details, is only reasonable. -danny ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures