[neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

2011-06-24 Thread Nick
On Jun 24, 7:59 pm, Wayne de Geere III  wrote:
> This story is breaking my heart. For that sort of breakage, it would have 
> made sense to fly out there and pack them up yourselves. I have to admit, the 
> mea culpas i carry with me would make grown men cry, I know how this feels.

At the time they were pretty cheap - I live in the UK, it would never
have made sense to go there personally.

I did try to get him to pack them properly, but he never did - just
chucked another few in to cover the losses.

The newspaper in the photo is all the "packing" they had - it the very
same paper they were wrapped in when originally stored in the 1970s
and were still in when he discovered the cache in, I believe, a New
York warehouse. ISTR there were a fewf thousand of them. When shipping
them to us they came in just that sheet of 1970s newspaper - that's
all.

As far as we know he was the only person to have commercial quantities
of these tube - they were all used, and no one has yet seen a genuine
NOS 7971 - lots that claim to be, but none verified. SO this cache
seems to have been the mother lode.

Main problem was that he wasn't a tube guy - he dealt in old coins and
really really didn't want the hassle of wrapping them individually and
shipping them properly. Several of us tried to reason with him, but to
no avail.

Ah. Well. Its done now...

Nick

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Re: [neonixie-l] US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-24 Thread Nicholas Stock
Sounds like that's going to screw with my nixieneon clocks;-(

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On Jun 24, 2011, at 18:21, Adam Jacobs  wrote:

> I was just logging in to mention this as well.. uh oh.
> 
> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5giHrMC9wYlOzOkUg9wNC2jVKugkw?docId=371623ab59694aef9f0a02fe83faca8a
> 
> I wonder if I will be designing crystal controlled 60hz AC signals to bodge 
> into my clocks sometime soon. :(
> 
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:10 PM, H. Carl Ott  wrote:
>  Of possible interest. A lot of my clocks use the grid as a reference.
> 
>  http://goo.gl/KhgtQ
> 
>  carl
>  
>  Henry Carl Ott   N2RVQhcarl...@gmail.com
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Re: [neonixie-l] US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-24 Thread Adam Jacobs
I was just logging in to mention this as well.. uh oh.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5giHrMC9wYlOzOkUg9wNC2jVKugkw?docId=371623ab59694aef9f0a02fe83faca8a

I wonder if I will be designing crystal controlled 60hz AC signals to bodge
into my clocks sometime soon. :(

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>  Of possible interest. A lot of my clocks use the grid as a reference.
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>  http://goo.gl/KhgtQ
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>  carl
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[neonixie-l] US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-24 Thread H. Carl Ott
 Of possible interest. A lot of my clocks use the grid as a reference.

 http://goo.gl/KhgtQ

 carl
 
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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie watch kit

2011-06-24 Thread Terry S
Looks like SpikenzieLabs.com has them in stock.

Terry

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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie watch kit

2011-06-24 Thread Michail1
Link to the Watch Kit is:
_http://www.makershed.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=MKSKL12_ 
(http://www.makershed.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=MKSKL12) 
 
Michail
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/24/2011 11:14:52 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
wa...@degeere.com writes:

Hello Mr  Forbes,

Can you post the URL? Xeni at boingboing is an old friend and I  used to 
read bb religiously but I have been lax of late. I'm always up for  another 
nixie watch, I have one of yours and one of Jeff's already, of course.  :)


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

2011-06-24 Thread Wayne de Geere III
This story is breaking my heart. For that sort of breakage, it would have made 
sense to fly out there and pack them up yourselves. I have to admit, the mea 
culpas i carry with me would make grown men cry, I know how this feels.

Sent from my iPad 2 3G

On Jun 24, 2011, at 13:48, Jeff Thomas  wrote:

> Nick, I encountered a 7% breakage and 2% defect rate. Abysmal. That
> may be in line with most who had bought tubes from him in quantity.
> Each box "tinkled" when lifted; a little audible treat of what was in
> store for the lucky recipient on opening :(
> I suspected all the tubes with shattered envelopes had valiantly
> sacrificed themselves to provide padding for others to survive the
> journey. They tubes I received were shipped cross country (MA to AZ)
> in the same old newspaper they were originally wrapped in up in the
> attic cache. Many had no paper over them at all. I didn't receive any
> overage or replacements, since he was already at the end of the fun.
> I'd venture to guess that upwards of a thousand tubes were lost to
> breakage in transit to all buyers.
> If i remember right, you had a substantial buy as well.
> 
> Hard to believe that nine years have gone by already.
> We were all so bright eyed and bushy tailed nixie fiddlers then...
> 
> The tubes I have now were purchased only recently
> Regards, Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 24, 10:28 am, Nick  wrote:
>> On Jun 24, 4:39 pm, David Forbes  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 6/24/11 8:33 AM, micha...@aol.com wrote:
>> 
 Jeff,
 Did you find a way to make them?
 /me wondering where you come up with them all.
 Michail
>> 
>>> Buy low, sell high.
>> 
>>> http://www.nixiebunny.com/b7971ad.jpg
>> 
>>> These tubes were available in large quantities at a low price in 2002.
>> 
>> Indeed - it was a good time. Its worth reminding those that don't know
>> it that the then owner of pretty much the world's stock of these
>> didn't really want them. When he sold bulk lots of then they were
>> pretty much just chucked in a box & shipped with minimal packing.
>> 
>> Of the shipments I received, I lost about 20, but he always packed
>> extra to account for "wastage".
>> 
>> http://www.desmith.net/NMdS/Nixies/DSCN1855.JPG
>> 
>> Yes, the newspaper was the only packing - the tubes were close packed
>> in pathetic boxes in batches of 100 or so. It almost made me weep.
>> 
>> Nick
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[neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

2011-06-24 Thread Jeff Thomas
Nick, I encountered a 7% breakage and 2% defect rate. Abysmal. That
may be in line with most who had bought tubes from him in quantity.
Each box "tinkled" when lifted; a little audible treat of what was in
store for the lucky recipient on opening :(
I suspected all the tubes with shattered envelopes had valiantly
sacrificed themselves to provide padding for others to survive the
journey. They tubes I received were shipped cross country (MA to AZ)
in the same old newspaper they were originally wrapped in up in the
attic cache. Many had no paper over them at all. I didn't receive any
overage or replacements, since he was already at the end of the fun.
I'd venture to guess that upwards of a thousand tubes were lost to
breakage in transit to all buyers.
If i remember right, you had a substantial buy as well.

Hard to believe that nine years have gone by already.
We were all so bright eyed and bushy tailed nixie fiddlers then...

The tubes I have now were purchased only recently.

Regards, Jeff



On Jun 24, 10:28 am, Nick  wrote:
> On Jun 24, 4:39 pm, David Forbes  wrote:
>
> > On 6/24/11 8:33 AM, micha...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > > Jeff,
> > > Did you find a way to make them?
> > > /me wondering where you come up with them all.
> > > Michail
>
> > Buy low, sell high.
>
> >http://www.nixiebunny.com/b7971ad.jpg
>
> > These tubes were available in large quantities at a low price in 2002.
>
> Indeed - it was a good time. Its worth reminding those that don't know
> it that the then owner of pretty much the world's stock of these
> didn't really want them. When he sold bulk lots of then they were
> pretty much just chucked in a box & shipped with minimal packing.
>
> Of the shipments I received, I lost about 20, but he always packed
> extra to account for "wastage".
>
> http://www.desmith.net/NMdS/Nixies/DSCN1855.JPG
>
> Yes, the newspaper was the only packing - the tubes were close packed
> in pathetic boxes in batches of 100 or so. It almost made me weep.
>
> Nick

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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie watch kit

2011-06-24 Thread Wayne de Geere III
Hello Mr Forbes,

Can you post the URL? Xeni at boingboing is an old friend and I used to read bb 
religiously but I have been lax of late. I'm always up for another nixie watch, 
I have one of yours and one of Jeff's already, of course. :)

Sent from my iPad 2 3G

On Jun 24, 2011, at 0:42, David Forbes  wrote:

> I saw the Solder:Time LED watch kit on BoingBoing last week, ordered one, and 
> assembled it in less time than it took my wife to watch Steven Colbert. It 
> works great, but needs a shorter display time. No visible source code on the 
> website. Drat.
> 
> Now, I'm inspired to shamelessly copy the laminated acrylic case to make a 
> kit version of my Nixie watch, with a much lower price point.
> 
> I'd have the boards SMT-assembled by machine still, but let the customer 
> build the rest.
> 
> We'll see how it comes out.
> 
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[neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

2011-06-24 Thread Dieter Waechter

Of the shipments I received, I lost about 20, but he always packed

extra to account for "wastage".
http://www.desmith.net/NMdS/Nixies/DSCN1855.JPG
Yes, the newspaper was the only packing - the tubes were close packed
in pathetic boxes in batches of 100 or so. It almost made me weep.


Some years ago I also have received a package with 300 B-7971 tubes. about
150 were broken.
The look was exactly the same as your picture.
They were wapped in newspapers, and then glass on glass in boxes without any
padding material - and then shipped over the ocean from USA to Germany.
TERRIBLE!
(I got no ferfund at all from the seller!)
Dieter

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

2011-06-24 Thread Wayne de Geere III
Thats a heart breaking photo.

Sent from my iPad 2 3G

On Jun 24, 2011, at 12:28, Nick  wrote:

> On Jun 24, 4:39 pm, David Forbes  wrote:
>> On 6/24/11 8:33 AM, micha...@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Jeff,
>>> Did you find a way to make them?
>>> /me wondering where you come up with them all.
>>> Michail
>> 
>> Buy low, sell high.
>> 
>> http://www.nixiebunny.com/b7971ad.jpg
>> 
>> These tubes were available in large quantities at a low price in 2002.
> 
> Indeed - it was a good time. Its worth reminding those that don't know
> it that the then owner of pretty much the world's stock of these
> didn't really want them. When he sold bulk lots of then they were
> pretty much just chucked in a box & shipped with minimal packing.
> 
> Of the shipments I received, I lost about 20, but he always packed
> extra to account for "wastage".
> 
> http://www.desmith.net/NMdS/Nixies/DSCN1855.JPG
> 
> Yes, the newspaper was the only packing - the tubes were close packed
> in pathetic boxes in batches of 100 or so. It almost made me weep.
> 
> Nick
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

2011-06-24 Thread Nicholas Stock
And here I am contemplating spending 200 bucks on two tubes..I wasn't
born in time! ;-)

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Nick  wrote:

> On Jun 24, 4:39 pm, David Forbes  wrote:
> > On 6/24/11 8:33 AM, micha...@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > Jeff,
> > > Did you find a way to make them?
> > > /me wondering where you come up with them all.
> > > Michail
> >
> > Buy low, sell high.
> >
> > http://www.nixiebunny.com/b7971ad.jpg
> >
> > These tubes were available in large quantities at a low price in 2002.
>
> Indeed - it was a good time. Its worth reminding those that don't know
> it that the then owner of pretty much the world's stock of these
> didn't really want them. When he sold bulk lots of then they were
> pretty much just chucked in a box & shipped with minimal packing.
>
> Of the shipments I received, I lost about 20, but he always packed
> extra to account for "wastage".
>
> http://www.desmith.net/NMdS/Nixies/DSCN1855.JPG
>
> Yes, the newspaper was the only packing - the tubes were close packed
> in pathetic boxes in batches of 100 or so. It almost made me weep.
>
> Nick
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[neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

2011-06-24 Thread Nick
On Jun 24, 4:39 pm, David Forbes  wrote:
> On 6/24/11 8:33 AM, micha...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Jeff,
> > Did you find a way to make them?
> > /me wondering where you come up with them all.
> > Michail
>
> Buy low, sell high.
>
> http://www.nixiebunny.com/b7971ad.jpg
>
> These tubes were available in large quantities at a low price in 2002.

Indeed - it was a good time. Its worth reminding those that don't know
it that the then owner of pretty much the world's stock of these
didn't really want them. When he sold bulk lots of then they were
pretty much just chucked in a box & shipped with minimal packing.

Of the shipments I received, I lost about 20, but he always packed
extra to account for "wastage".

http://www.desmith.net/NMdS/Nixies/DSCN1855.JPG

Yes, the newspaper was the only packing - the tubes were close packed
in pathetic boxes in batches of 100 or so. It almost made me weep.

Nick

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

2011-06-24 Thread Joe Croft
Jeff,

Those are pretty tubes!!! Darned shame you didn't offer these before I 
separated from my wife, I could have sold her to pay for them ;).

-joe

On Friday 24 June 2011 11:23:41 Jeff Thomas wrote:
> I've listed another tested batch of B7971's on ebay BIN for those who
> need them.
> 
> http://search.ebay.com/120741967844
> 
> Regards, Jeff
> 
> On Jun 24, 6:42 am, Terry S  wrote:
> > All the B7971's I had available have been sold. Thanks for your
> > interest.
> > 
> > Terry
> > 
> > On Jun 18, 9:19 am, Terry S  wrote:
> > > Thanks for all the responses to my B7971 post.
> > > 
> > > A couple of clarifcations and answers to questions.
> > > 
> > > 1) This is not an auction. I won't answer questions like "what is your
> > > best offer so far?' and "what are you asking for the tubes?".  I know
> > > what the market value of the tubes are based on both other sellers on
> > > this list and eBay auctions.  Please, as per the original post, email
> > > me off-list with your solid offer. I prefer not to negotiate.
> > > 
> > > 2) The tubes are marked Burroughs. Not Ultronics.
> > > 
> > > 3) A couple people asked "why marked and photographed?" Call me
> > > paranoid, buy I don't want anyone complaining that I sent a bad tube.
> > > This is my record of what I send. I used to sell tubes on eBay on
> > > occasion and it was not uncommon for someone to try and return a tube
> > > that wasn't mine to begin with. That said...
> > > 
> > > 4) I will not warranty the tubes. I will makes sure every tube leaves
> > > here with all segments working.
> > > 
> > > 5) Why am I selling them? Simple. I like nixie clocks, but I'm not a
> > > nixie tube collector or hoarder. (Actually I'm a radio collector/
> > > hoarder :-)  I came across this stash of B7971's, traded several away,
> > > kept enough for my needs, and the rest are up for sale. Simple.
> > > 
> > > Sorry for the long post. Please keep the offers coming!
> > > 
> > > Terry

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

2011-06-24 Thread David Forbes

On 6/24/11 8:33 AM, micha...@aol.com wrote:

Jeff,
Did you find a way to make them?
/me wondering where you come up with them all.
Michail


Buy low, sell high.

http://www.nixiebunny.com/b7971ad.jpg

These tubes were available in large quantities at a low price in 2002.


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

2011-06-24 Thread Michail1
Jeff,
 
Did you find a way to make them?
/me wondering where you come up with them all.
 
Michail
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/24/2011 8:23:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
nixich...@gmail.com writes:

I've  listed another tested batch of B7971's on ebay BIN for those who
need  them.

http://search.ebay.com/120741967844

Regards,  Jeff

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[neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

2011-06-24 Thread Jeff Thomas
I've listed another tested batch of B7971's on ebay BIN for those who
need them.

http://search.ebay.com/120741967844

Regards, Jeff



On Jun 24, 6:42 am, Terry S  wrote:
> All the B7971's I had available have been sold. Thanks for your
> interest.
>
> Terry
>
> On Jun 18, 9:19 am, Terry S  wrote:
>
> > Thanks for all the responses to my B7971 post.
>
> > A couple of clarifcations and answers to questions.
>
> > 1) This is not an auction. I won't answer questions like "what is your
> > best offer so far?' and "what are you asking for the tubes?".  I know
> > what the market value of the tubes are based on both other sellers on
> > this list and eBay auctions.  Please, as per the original post, email
> > me off-list with your solid offer. I prefer not to negotiate.
>
> > 2) The tubes are marked Burroughs. Not Ultronics.
>
> > 3) A couple people asked "why marked and photographed?" Call me
> > paranoid, buy I don't want anyone complaining that I sent a bad tube.
> > This is my record of what I send. I used to sell tubes on eBay on
> > occasion and it was not uncommon for someone to try and return a tube
> > that wasn't mine to begin with. That said...
>
> > 4) I will not warranty the tubes. I will makes sure every tube leaves
> > here with all segments working.
>
> > 5) Why am I selling them? Simple. I like nixie clocks, but I'm not a
> > nixie tube collector or hoarder. (Actually I'm a radio collector/
> > hoarder :-)  I came across this stash of B7971's, traded several away,
> > kept enough for my needs, and the rest are up for sale. Simple.
>
> > Sorry for the long post. Please keep the offers coming!
>
> > Terry

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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie watch kit

2011-06-24 Thread Michail1
MakerShed.
It's too bad they don't post a link directly where to get it.  Had to  
google for it.  
Reveiws did mention MakerShed, but I had never heard of it.   So  many 
people posting about the watch and reviews, that the actual site selling it  
was 
far down the list.   
Found - out of stock
 
David,
I am interested if you make a nixie watch kit.  Not because of the  price 
drop (although that is great), but because it would be a kit.
 
I would suggest you offer extra cases and/or keep extra on hand (in stock), 
 because some of us are rough on watches by bumping into things (working 
with  hands a lot in boxes, lifting, etc).
 
Michail
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/23/2011 10:42:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
dfor...@dakotacom.net writes:

I saw  the Solder:Time LED watch kit on BoingBoing last week, ordered 
one, and  assembled it in less time than it took my wife to watch Steven 
Colbert. It  works great, but needs a shorter display time. No visible 
source code on  the website. Drat.

Now, I'm inspired to shamelessly copy the laminated  acrylic case to make 
a kit version of my Nixie watch, with a much lower  price point.

I'd have the boards SMT-assembled by machine still, but  let the customer 
build the rest.

We'll see how it comes  out.

-- 
David Forbes, Tucson AZ

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[neonixie-l] Re: B7971's for sale (again)

2011-06-24 Thread Terry S
All the B7971's I had available have been sold. Thanks for your
interest.

Terry

On Jun 18, 9:19 am, Terry S  wrote:
> Thanks for all the responses to my B7971 post.
>
> A couple of clarifcations and answers to questions.
>
> 1) This is not an auction. I won't answer questions like "what is your
> best offer so far?' and "what are you asking for the tubes?".  I know
> what the market value of the tubes are based on both other sellers on
> this list and eBay auctions.  Please, as per the original post, email
> me off-list with your solid offer. I prefer not to negotiate.
>
> 2) The tubes are marked Burroughs. Not Ultronics.
>
> 3) A couple people asked "why marked and photographed?" Call me
> paranoid, buy I don't want anyone complaining that I sent a bad tube.
> This is my record of what I send. I used to sell tubes on eBay on
> occasion and it was not uncommon for someone to try and return a tube
> that wasn't mine to begin with. That said...
>
> 4) I will not warranty the tubes. I will makes sure every tube leaves
> here with all segments working.
>
> 5) Why am I selling them? Simple. I like nixie clocks, but I'm not a
> nixie tube collector or hoarder. (Actually I'm a radio collector/
> hoarder :-)  I came across this stash of B7971's, traded several away,
> kept enough for my needs, and the rest are up for sale. Simple.
>
> Sorry for the long post. Please keep the offers coming!
>
> Terry

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