[neonixie-l] Re: low power nixie tubes?

2012-11-26 Thread Nick

On Monday, 26 November 2012 19:59:12 UTC, bryan wrote:
>
> Just curious to see if anyone from this group knows if there are any low 
> power nixie tubes like IV-9 Numitron tubes that only needs 1V-12V? Not more 
> than 100V?
>
>
Hi - IV-9s are not nixies - they are numitrons which have incandescent 
filaments like old light bulbs - a completely different technology. They 
operate off 4.5V taking about 19mA per segment.

The technology in nixies requires the gas in the tube to ionise to get that 
orange glow round the shaped cathodes - there are basic constraints laid 
down by laws of physics that determine the energy required to do this, thus 
the voltage that is required to start ionisation. The voltage at which 
ionisation starts (the striking voltage) is typically around 160 to 180VDC; 
once struck, they maintain at a lower voltage (e.g. 120VDC) - the striking 
voltage for a given tube is determined by physical factors such as gas mix 
in the tube, pressure, presence of ionising radiation etc.

All nixies work this way which is why we use step-up (boost) converters to 
change low voltages up to typically around 180VDC.

Nick

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[neonixie-l] Help needed to design Swithmode step-up converter, this time not so Nixie-related

2012-11-26 Thread Per Jensen
Hi folks. Usually i build and tinker with Nixie tubes, so a Step-up converter 
is nothing new to me.

I usually use the MC34063A-based MK1,5 supply design from M. Moorrees which 
works wonders!

Now i got a job set for me - I need to retrofit a head-mounted lamp with LED's 
- I got a whole bunch of 5050-style warm white LED's from some scrapped lamps 
(the original smps power supppled blew up) so i got a good supply of these 
LED's. There is 3 dies inside each LED package, and i reckon they can handle 
about 40 mA without any active cooling.

On the original boards, these LED's are mounted in 5 chains of 6 LED's each - 
no resistors mounted, i guess the power supply was current limited.

I milled a new PCB with room for 20 of these LED's - put them all in series, so 
i have a load that likes around 70V and 40 mA. I milled a pcb with a MK1,5 
Power supply, replaced the voltage divider with a 33 ohm resistor for the low 
side, so the power supply is current-regulated, and it works just fine.

The problem I am having, is the heat loss from the Mosfet and inductor - 
Packing this inside the bulb renders these parts at 100 degrees C, which i 
don't think they will last very long being that temperature...

I am using a 2SK3592 switching transistor and a 10 uH low loss SMT inductor.

I replaced the SMPS IC with a NCP3064B which is just a descendant of the 
venerable MC34063A chip, so that won't change anything really.

Now, the question is, any advice on getting the efficiency bumped up a bit, and 
would i be better off rearranging the LED's so i have a lower voltage and 
higher current ? I could parallel all the LED's, but that is a big no-no as I 
am concerned.

Any tips or advice would be welcomed ;-)

// Per.

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[neonixie-l] Re: IN-9's for sale

2012-11-26 Thread bryan
What is price to sell per lot? and what is shipping cost?

On Monday, November 26, 2012 12:41:16 PM UTC-6, Dan Foster wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I have a few (10) IN-9 Bargraph tubes that I no longer want, thought I'd 
> ask here before I list them on eBay. Anyone interested?

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[neonixie-l] low power nixie tubes?

2012-11-26 Thread bryan
Just curious to see if anyone from this group knows if there are any low 
power nixie tubes like IV-9 Numitron tubes that only needs 1V-12V? Not more 
than 100V?


Thanks

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[neonixie-l] IN-9's for sale

2012-11-26 Thread Dan Foster
Hello,
I have a few (10) IN-9 Bargraph tubes that I no longer want, thought I'd 
ask here before I list them on eBay. Anyone interested?

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 5BP1 CRT

2012-11-26 Thread John Rehwinkel
> But, I did make a little tube checker, to at least, light them up, and do 
> rough deflection tests.
> 
> http://threeneurons.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/crt_tst01.jpg

That's cute - do you have a schematic for it?  I'm guessing it's a variant of 
your 34063-based nixie supply with a voltage multiplier and resistive divider.

- John

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