[neonixie-l] Re: Clanging Nixies

[Greg P]

All my IN-18 clocks clang.  Must be inherent to that tube.



On Sunday, January 15, 2017 at 5:06:47 PM UTC-5, MichaelB wrote:
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> You know, I can't isolate which digits are doing it and when. It seems 
> very random which would make sense since I'm sure the the digits cool at 
> varying rates based on their size and shape.
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> Don't get me wrong, it does not bother me, in fact. I kind of like. It is 
> very subtle.
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> On Sunday, January 15, 2017 at 1:08:13 PM UTC-8, jf...@my-deja.com wrote:
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>> On my B7971 clocks, you can hear the tubes “sing” at the mux rate, and 
>> the “timbre” would change as the digits changed (the mux’ing also generated 
>> at lot of RFI).  I mentioned this many years ago when I said that they 
>> had been running 24/7 for over 30 years (now 40) with zero tube failures. 
>>  One other list member suggested that I might have been hearing the 
>> magnetostriction from the transformers in the SMPS, but I found this 
>> unlikely since I could isolate the sound to the tubes and because I had 
>> used linear power supplies.
>>
>>  
>>
>> BTW, is the “clanging” noticeably louder when multiple digits change 
>> simultaneously?  (On my computer, the clanging in the video is not 
>> synchronized with the changing seconds digits).
>>
>>  
>>
>> You might be able to reduce the noise by increasing the rise time of the 
>> current applied to the tubes.
>>
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[neonixie-l] Re: Clanging Nixies

[MichaelB]

You know, I can't isolate which digits are doing it and when. It seems very 
random which would make sense since I'm sure the the digits cool at varying 
rates based on their size and shape.

Don't get me wrong, it does not bother me, in fact. I kind of like. It is 
very subtle.

On Sunday, January 15, 2017 at 1:08:13 PM UTC-8, jf...@my-deja.com wrote:
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> On my B7971 clocks, you can hear the tubes “sing” at the mux rate, and the 
> “timbre” would change as the digits changed (the mux’ing also generated at 
> lot of RFI).  I mentioned this many years ago when I said that they had 
> been running 24/7 for over 30 years (now 40) with zero tube failures.  One 
> other list member suggested that I might have been hearing the 
> magnetostriction from the transformers in the SMPS, but I found this 
> unlikely since I could isolate the sound to the tubes and because I had 
> used linear power supplies.
>
>  
>
> BTW, is the “clanging” noticeably louder when multiple digits change 
> simultaneously?  (On my computer, the clanging in the video is not 
> synchronized with the changing seconds digits).
>
>  
>
> You might be able to reduce the noise by increasing the rise time of the 
> current applied to the tubes.
>

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[neonixie-l] Clanging Nixies

[MichaelB]

http://badnixie.com/Web_Files/Clanging%20Nixies.mov


I’ve always thought this an interesting phenomena and have really never 
seen it mentioned here before, but if you turn up the volume nice and high 
on this video and listen close you can hear a sort of clanging noise. I 
believe this noise is the digits expanding and contracting as they heat up 
and cool down as they are turned on and off. Pretty neat, I think!  My 
Thomas clocks with IN-18’s all do it and always have, but my other clocks 
that cross fade from one digit to the next, do not seem to do it.  Maybe 
because the on and off is more gradual? Anyway, I know, a totally geekie 
observation, but I thought it would be fun to share with the group.

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Re: [neonixie-l] For the record

[jb-electronics]

Perhaps you missed a certain undertone in my email, Frank. Jens

On 1/15/2017 8:00 AM, Frank Bemelman wrote:
Well, I don't see anyone taking Dieters' side, so for him it isn't 
very helpful indeed. Perhaps he should make his apologies and call it 
a day...


Op za 14 jan. 2017 om 23:31 schreef jb-electronics 
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In the interest of a mutually

beneficial solution of the problem, let us ALL please refrain from

making further public comments. Taking sides is not helpful. Jens






On 1/14/2017 3:26 PM, MichaelB wrote:









Greg Peetros has been a great customer of

Badnixie.com for years and although not a EE does have a good

working knowledge

of the basics of electronics as relates to Nixie clocks. I

thought the reaction

to Greg’s complaint was uncalled for and should have been

handled in a much

more controlled manner. I

hope they come

up with a solution that works for both of them. My $.02.



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[neonixie-l] Glass dome thermometer 2

['David Weiner' via neonixie-l]

Mr mike's Three neurons nixie thermometer 
In a glass and brass case with the jumping IN-18 bar graph (very visual the 
numbers move back and forth in space)
Made with my last NL 8091 super large round nixies, the R/z568m hand made tubes 
would look very nice with this thermometer also the IN-18, another great use 
for nixies and bar graph tubes.The Davester likey !

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Re: [neonixie-l] For the record

[Frank Bemelman]

Well, I don't see anyone taking Dieters' side, so for him it isn't very
helpful indeed. Perhaps he should make his apologies and call it a day...

Op za 14 jan. 2017 om 23:31 schreef jb-electronics <
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> of the basics of electronics as relates to Nixie clocks. I
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> thought the reaction
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> to Greg’s complaint was uncalled for and should have been
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Not up to you, I'd say. We live in a free world, remember.

People, at times, have opinions about custormer services. Good or bad or
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Have a nice day,
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[neonixie-l] Re: bottom NE-2s in IN-18 Blue Dream

[Greg P]

Thanks Marcin,

I'll try your suggestions and report back.




On Sunday, January 15, 2017 at 1:52:50 AM UTC-5, marcin wrote:
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> It seems maybe I experienced the same problem as Greg: When displaying 
> time the bottom NE-2 in colon separator were mostly not working. As far 
> as I recall it they were OK after the slot-machine effect routine, but 
> blank after change from date display to time. Till next slot-machine. 
> As it started happening right after I changed the digit cross fade time 
> to the max (submenu 6) I assumed that there is some soft glitch and 
> didn't give it much attention. Changing the cross fade time to level 3 
> fixed that issue. Maybe this would work for Greg too? 
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> All the best! 
>Marcin 
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