Re: [neonixie-l] Need help with a 230IK1 IC (nixie driver)

2017-07-31 Thread gregebert
I've been designing IC's for over 30 years now, and this is definitely one 
of the most unusual I've ever seen. This appears to be from the 1976 to 
1980 timeframe, and having to use multiple die to implement such a simple 
logic function shows that the former USSR was behind in their process 
technology. Intel's 8080 CPU debuted in 1974 and had 4500 transistors in a 
single die inside a 40-pin package; the K230IK1 was at most a few hundred 
transistors and required at least 7 die (maybe more; photo is chopped-off).

A lot of work went into assembling these; I hope you can get some of them 
running.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Need help with a 230IK1 IC (nixie driver)

2017-07-31 Thread ZY
Thanks everyone for the help! I can start some tests with this info. I'm 
going to order a couple 1.25mm pitch FPC connectors from digikey first so I 
can connect to the IC without soldering to it.

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[neonixie-l] A simple mod for Passive IR sensors... A toggle switch setting clock to: ON / PIR-controlled / Off

2017-07-31 Thread Robert L
Hi folks,

This is a *VERY* simple modification I'm making to the PIR sensors on my 
clocks. I was going to add this as a response to Edwards build thread but 
thought it might be of more general interest... The mod is simple and I'm 
finding it quite useful.

I've added a center-off SPDT toggle switch on my Passive IR sensor modules 
with positions for "On", "PIR controlled" and "Off". The switch allows me 
to put clocks in my shop space to sleep when I'm working for a time with my 
back to the clocks... allows me to easily test PIR response on controllers, 
etc. 

See the attached photo for the details. Label added for clarity.

Note that the PV Electronics PIR module case top piece shown has an extra 
hole added above the second PIR module trim pot to allow me to adjust the 
module hold-on time. I've retrofit some of my clocks with HV power supply 
disable lines under PIR control. These modified clocks need the PIR module 
to control on-time when activated. I also change a cap from 10 nF to 100 nF 
on the PIR module I use extending the max hold-on time to about 42 
minutes... the cap is connected to pin 4 of the BIS0001 IC. Modules differ 
in layout so I won't post a photo showing the cap location... The BIS0001 
data sheet details the function of this cap.

Best regards,
Bob

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Re: [neonixie-l] Need help with a 230IK1 IC (nixie driver)

2017-07-31 Thread John Rehwinkel
> I got my hands on a few 230IK1 chips and I want to use them for a project as 
> I think they look a bit cooler than the usual K155ID1.
> 
> Would someone be able to translate for me the pinouts for K230IK1?
> 
> I'm assuming pins 49 and 50 are 5V, 24 and 25 are GND, but I want to be sure.

Here's my take on it:

Микросхема представляют собой преобразователь двоичного
кода в десятичный. Корпус типа 421ю50-1.
Назначение выводов: 3 - вход гашения; 5, 13, 15 - вспомогательные
входы; 7, 21 - вход 1 разряда; 9, 19 - вход 8 разряда;
11 - вход 4 разряда; 17 - вход 2 разряда; 23 - вход запятой;
27 - выход Q0; 24, 25 - общие; 29 - выход запятой; 31 - выход Q9;
33 - выход Q8; 35 - выход Q7; 37 - выход Q6; 39 - выход Q5;
41 - выход Q4; 43 - выход Q3; 45 - выход Q2; 47 - выход Q1;
49, 50 - напряжение питания.

Chip is a binary-decimal converter, package type 421Y50-1.

49,50: supply voltage
24,25: common (ground)

7,21: 1 input
17: 2 input
11: 4 input
9, 19: 8 input
3: blanking input
5, 13, 15: auxiliary (mode?) inputs
23: comma input

27: output Q0
47: output Q1
45: output Q2
43: output Q3
41: output Q4
39: output Q5
37: output Q6
35: output Q7
33: output Q8
31: output Q9
29: comma output

- John


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[neonixie-l] PV Electronics R568 Clock Project With Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes

2017-07-31 Thread Edward Van Belkom
I am starting my new clock project and will be posting my build here.

For now this is what I will be ordering.

PV Electronics R568 Clock kit with black colon tubes
6  Black R|Z568M Nixie Tubes 
PIR Kit
Azevedo NWTS with black case

I need to know what high quality 2 amp power supply  you would recommend to 
get?

With MichaelB help I have the preliminary stand design and color worked out 
and waiting till I get the clock kit to make the final drawings and prints.
His input really helped quite a bit as all the LED's, Switches, Power 
connector, GPS and PIR connectors will be mounted in the stand instead of 
the PCB board.

Jeff Walton is also helping me out with the NWTS and I thank him for that:)

Stay tuned and add any info that might help me out on this build.

Thanks Edward


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[neonixie-l] Re: Solitube Clock

2017-07-31 Thread Edward Van Belkom


I will end this tread and start a new one as my build will no longer be the 
> Solitube clock.
>

Thanks everyone for your help.

Edward 

>  
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: New nixie power supply released - NCH8200HV

2017-07-31 Thread 严泽远
for 10x IN-12 tubes, current around 170V/20mA, test efficiency 86.67% with 
DC5V input, not hot, a bit warm.

在 2017年7月31日星期一 UTC+8下午9:20:50,Tomasz Kowalczyk写道:
>
> Wow, this looks incredible. How hot does it get under load of 10x IN-12 in 
> free air?
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: New nixie power supply released - NCH8200HV

2017-07-31 Thread Tomasz Kowalczyk
Wow, this looks incredible. How hot does it get under load of 10x IN-12 in 
free air?

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[neonixie-l] New nixie power supply released - NCH8200HV

2017-07-31 Thread 严泽远
Hi Guys, I hope you will like my new nixie power supply NCH8200HV, smaller, 
lower input voltage and higher efficiency.
Input voltage range is 2.5-15v, suitable for lithium battery or USB power 
supply.
More details in my blog: http://www.nixieclock.org/?p=1454

Pictures:















Cheers.

Yan.




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[neonixie-l] Re: Need help with a 230IK1 IC (nixie driver)

2017-07-31 Thread 'Yuriy Ovchinnikov' via neonixie-l
I can help. Tell me at murman_mail...@mail.ru

понедельник, 31 июля 2017 г., 7:59:25 UTC+3 пользователь ZY написал:
>
> I got my hands on a few 230IK1 chips and I want to use them for a project 
> as I think they look a bit cooler than the usual K155ID1.
>
> However, I don't know any Russian so reading the datasheets are a bit 
> difficult. So far, I found this website:
>
> http://www.155la3.ru/k230.htm
>
> Halfway down the page, it shows off the 230IK1 IC with a datasheet:
>
> http://www.155la3.ru/datafiles/230ik1.pdf
>
> However it doesn't give much information on which pins provide power. I 
> think K230IK1 is equivalent except for some temperature specs, and I found 
> this datasheet:
>
> http://www.quartz1.com/price/PIC/411N0944515.pdf
>
> Would someone be able to translate for me the pinouts for K230IK1?
>
> I'm assuming pins 49 and 50 are 5V, 24 and 25 are GND, but I want to be 
> sure.
>
> Thanks a bunch!
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Need help with a 230IK1 IC (nixie driver)

2017-07-31 Thread Paolo Cravero
Hello ZY.
Nice find those chips. I cannot help with a direct translation from
Russian, but rather suggest a procedure that has helped me several times
with the Russian datasheets: Google Translate on the smartphone (tested on
Android).

It lets you point at a text with the smartphone's camera, you highlight the
text and it provides a translation almost on the fly. Actually, if you
download locally text tiles for the source language it does it live,
replacing the original text with the destination language. Amazingly scary
to me.

For these highly specialised texts you may need to do a bit of
interpretation of some words, but I noticed it is giving better results
every time I use it. I usually have it translate into English.

HTH,
Paolo

PS: yes, 49&50 are translated as Supply voltage.

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