[neonixie-l] HP 1820-0092 nixie driver

2017-09-08 Thread Paul Andrews
I uploaded a 'datasheet' to our shared drive that I put together for the HP 
1820-0092 BCD to decimal decoder, HP's version of the 74141/K155ID1. It 
shows the pin definitions and truth tables for the converter.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxM1hw8V6l8QOWZkZmxreGFDcEk

Could a mod move it to a suitable location?

BTW Could a mod also move this document to a permanent 
location https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxM1hw8V6l8QcUxxdEtQQ0dqU1E ?

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[neonixie-l] Re: 7971 nixie tube problem

2017-09-08 Thread gregebert
Most of my clocks use non-isolated AC-line voltage for the anode supply; as 
long as you follow good design and safety practices, you will end up with a 
reliable and more-efficient design compared to DCDC converters and 
transformers.

It's very important to have properly-sized fuses, PCB traces, and wiring. 
Also, proper spacing, insulation, and warning labels (Hopefully my clocks 
will outlive me and someone will be taking care of them in the next 
century). Lastly, filtering from AC-line spikes and surge-protection.

My first nixie clock has 4000-series CMOS gates tied to the AC line, and 
they have worked flawlessly for years. This was a design challenge I had 
wanted to do for many years; I knew it was theoretically possible but I had 
to prove it for myself. There are several stages of filtering, so the logic 
gates never see any of the ugliness that exists on the AC line at the 
wall-outlet.

There are billions of devices that have circuitry running on the AC line 
without transformer protection; think of LED and CFL bulbs, and the 
input-side of laptop/cellphone power adapters. Not to mention the older 
tube-based radio/stereo/TV sets with hot-chassis. And most of these have 
UL, CE, etc recognition.
---
Thanks for posting the 73 magazine; there's a certain magic about 
electronics from that era that doesn't exist anymore. Part of it is that 
you could touch, feel, and understand just about anything electronic back 
then. Not true today.

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[neonixie-l] Re: 7971 nixie tube problem

2017-09-08 Thread Tomasz Kowalczyk
That's an interesting method of driving the anodes. 

W dniu piątek, 8 września 2017 15:12:38 UTC+2 użytkownik Robert L napisał:
>
> Complete 73 issue from July 76... See here:
>
>
> https://ia902601.us.archive.org/31/items/73-magazine-1976-07/07_July_1976.pdf
>
> Caution... thread drift... 
>
> Found the clock in the attached image on the local Craig's List back in 
> April... Seller and I each traveled a couple of hours to meet at the 
> farthest North BART station. Fun day... 
>
> Rotary switch on the back of the clock has three positions... "fast 
> forward", "slow forward", and "keep time". Time is derived from the 60 Hz 
> line frequency. Could well be the same circuit from 73 Magazine. Can't 
> bring myself to harvest the tubes!
>
> 73 de Bob
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: 7971 nixie tube problem

2017-09-08 Thread Robert L
Complete 73 issue from July 76... See here:

https://ia902601.us.archive.org/31/items/73-magazine-1976-07/07_July_1976.pdf

73 de Bob

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Re: [neonixie-l] 7971 nixie tube problem

2017-09-08 Thread Terry S
That vintage clock is interesting indeed. Built from a 1976 article in 73 
magazine. You can read part of the article. The author discusses the 
voltage rating of the transistors, notes that he has no data ... and 
"inquiries among friends and on the nets failed" 

On the nets? Was that perhaps ham radio lingo in the 70's? Or was he 
portending the future?

Also, he paid $5 for the 6 nixies and the driver boards.

Terry

On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 6:11:47 AM UTC-5, Paul Andrews wrote:
>
> The same seller has an empty school display board for sale that takes 15 
> of those tubes, so he picked up two of them?
>
> There is also this clock with six tubes in it that I am surprised is still 
> for sale: https://www.ebay.com/itm/122680353656 
>
> (Sorry, don't mean to hijack this thread)
>
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] 7971 nixie tube problem

2017-09-08 Thread Paul Andrews
The same seller has an empty school display board for sale that takes 15 of 
those tubes, so he picked up two of them?

There is also this clock with six tubes in it that I am surprised is still for 
sale: https://www.ebay.com/itm/122680353656 

(Sorry, don't mean to hijack this thread)

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