Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IV-17 Word Clock

2020-01-07 Thread Mitch Feig
You will need six tubes.

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:31 PM Dylan Distasio  wrote:

> Is it possible to run it with 4 digits?  Also, I would probably be
> interested in one as I am sitting on B7971s.  I can't remember if I have 6
> though.
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:26 PM Mitch Feig  wrote:
>
>> The B7971 version is a 6 digit word clock. The add-on board will make it
>> 8 digits, but no time frame on completing the software for the add-on board.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:04 PM Bill Notfaded  wrote:
>>
>>> How many digits is the B-7971 clock?  I'm interested.  I have two
>>> mod-six, a new 7 digit clock from Mahdi forum member, and the four digit
>>> FLWC from another passed well known forum member I bought.  All are B-7971
>>> clocks.  What's the two digit add on for?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, 8:09 AM Mitch Feig  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Richard,

 The current version won't support more tubes. I will do a 15 or 16 tube
 version, but I'm not sure when it will be available, but probably by the
 summer. I haven't started working on the hardware or software yet.

 The B7971 version will  be available by the end of this month, and the
 two digit add-on board, probably a month or two later.

 Regards,
 Mitch


 On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 8:53 AM Richard Scales 
 wrote:

> Can you update us as to where the version that supports more IV-17
> (like 12,15 or more etc) is sitting on your road map?
>
> Would there be add-on modules for the first kit or separate boards etc?
>
> I just need to update my own construction road map!
>
> Richard
>
> On Tuesday, 26 November 2019 12:19:55 UTC, Mitch wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I was a little surprised that the power supplies worked the first
>> time. A LM2576 is used to drop the supply voltage to 5v. Two 34063 chips
>> raise that voltage to 32v, and lower it to 1.65v. The datasheet and 
>> online
>> calculators for the 34063s made that part easy.
>>
>> The next revision will use separate tube boards. Curiously the tubes
>> I have with 1990 date codes aren’t very bright. The 1987 versions are 
>> good.
>>
>> I can’t seem to find matching LEDs for the blue-green color, to use
>> for colons. Otherwise everything works as it should.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: IMG-0185.jpg]
>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IV-17 Word Clock

2020-01-07 Thread Dylan Distasio
Is it possible to run it with 4 digits?  Also, I would probably be
interested in one as I am sitting on B7971s.  I can't remember if I have 6
though.

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:26 PM Mitch Feig  wrote:

> The B7971 version is a 6 digit word clock. The add-on board will make it 8
> digits, but no time frame on completing the software for the add-on board.
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:04 PM Bill Notfaded  wrote:
>
>> How many digits is the B-7971 clock?  I'm interested.  I have two
>> mod-six, a new 7 digit clock from Mahdi forum member, and the four digit
>> FLWC from another passed well known forum member I bought.  All are B-7971
>> clocks.  What's the two digit add on for?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, 8:09 AM Mitch Feig  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Richard,
>>>
>>> The current version won't support more tubes. I will do a 15 or 16 tube
>>> version, but I'm not sure when it will be available, but probably by the
>>> summer. I haven't started working on the hardware or software yet.
>>>
>>> The B7971 version will  be available by the end of this month, and the
>>> two digit add-on board, probably a month or two later.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mitch
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 8:53 AM Richard Scales 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Can you update us as to where the version that supports more IV-17
 (like 12,15 or more etc) is sitting on your road map?

 Would there be add-on modules for the first kit or separate boards etc?

 I just need to update my own construction road map!

 Richard

 On Tuesday, 26 November 2019 12:19:55 UTC, Mitch wrote:
>
>
>
> I was a little surprised that the power supplies worked the first
> time. A LM2576 is used to drop the supply voltage to 5v. Two 34063 chips
> raise that voltage to 32v, and lower it to 1.65v. The datasheet and online
> calculators for the 34063s made that part easy.
>
> The next revision will use separate tube boards. Curiously the tubes I
> have with 1990 date codes aren’t very bright. The 1987 versions are good.
>
> I can’t seem to find matching LEDs for the blue-green color, to use
> for colons. Otherwise everything works as it should.
>
>
>
>
>
> [image: IMG-0185.jpg]
>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IV-17 Word Clock

2020-01-07 Thread Mitch Feig
The B7971 version is a 6 digit word clock. The add-on board will make it 8
digits, but no time frame on completing the software for the add-on board.

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:04 PM Bill Notfaded  wrote:

> How many digits is the B-7971 clock?  I'm interested.  I have two mod-six,
> a new 7 digit clock from Mahdi forum member, and the four digit FLWC from
> another passed well known forum member I bought.  All are B-7971 clocks.
> What's the two digit add on for?
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, 8:09 AM Mitch Feig  wrote:
>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> The current version won't support more tubes. I will do a 15 or 16 tube
>> version, but I'm not sure when it will be available, but probably by the
>> summer. I haven't started working on the hardware or software yet.
>>
>> The B7971 version will  be available by the end of this month, and the
>> two digit add-on board, probably a month or two later.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mitch
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 8:53 AM Richard Scales 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can you update us as to where the version that supports more IV-17 (like
>>> 12,15 or more etc) is sitting on your road map?
>>>
>>> Would there be add-on modules for the first kit or separate boards etc?
>>>
>>> I just need to update my own construction road map!
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 26 November 2019 12:19:55 UTC, Mitch wrote:



 I was a little surprised that the power supplies worked the first time.
 A LM2576 is used to drop the supply voltage to 5v. Two 34063 chips raise
 that voltage to 32v, and lower it to 1.65v. The datasheet and online
 calculators for the 34063s made that part easy.

 The next revision will use separate tube boards. Curiously the tubes I
 have with 1990 date codes aren’t very bright. The 1987 versions are good.

 I can’t seem to find matching LEDs for the blue-green color, to use for
 colons. Otherwise everything works as it should.





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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: For those with deep pockets.... five GR10J/F with sockets on eBay....

2020-01-07 Thread Bill Notfaded
They aren't worth that much though... even being rare to a decent degree.  
Don't these tubes also have shorter lives?  Maybe I'm thinking of their brother?

Bill

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Beautiful dekatron image

2020-01-07 Thread Bill Notfaded
Well Martin I have a box of new A-101 and og-4 so if you ever want to sell any 
large dekatron displays let me know!  That's awesome!  I thought that would be 
neat too since you can control an array of them with a SOC.  I thought 
integrating some A-201 and Nixie would be neat as well.

Bill

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IV-17 Word Clock

2020-01-07 Thread Bill Notfaded
How many digits is the B-7971 clock?  I'm interested.  I have two mod-six,
a new 7 digit clock from Mahdi forum member, and the four digit FLWC from
another passed well known forum member I bought.  All are B-7971 clocks.
What's the two digit add on for?

Regards,

Bill

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020, 8:09 AM Mitch Feig  wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> The current version won't support more tubes. I will do a 15 or 16 tube
> version, but I'm not sure when it will be available, but probably by the
> summer. I haven't started working on the hardware or software yet.
>
> The B7971 version will  be available by the end of this month, and the two
> digit add-on board, probably a month or two later.
>
> Regards,
> Mitch
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 8:53 AM Richard Scales 
> wrote:
>
>> Can you update us as to where the version that supports more IV-17 (like
>> 12,15 or more etc) is sitting on your road map?
>>
>> Would there be add-on modules for the first kit or separate boards etc?
>>
>> I just need to update my own construction road map!
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> On Tuesday, 26 November 2019 12:19:55 UTC, Mitch wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was a little surprised that the power supplies worked the first time.
>>> A LM2576 is used to drop the supply voltage to 5v. Two 34063 chips raise
>>> that voltage to 32v, and lower it to 1.65v. The datasheet and online
>>> calculators for the 34063s made that part easy.
>>>
>>> The next revision will use separate tube boards. Curiously the tubes I
>>> have with 1990 date codes aren’t very bright. The 1987 versions are good.
>>>
>>> I can’t seem to find matching LEDs for the blue-green color, to use for
>>> colons. Otherwise everything works as it should.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: IMG-0185.jpg]
>>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IV-17 Word Clock

2020-01-07 Thread gregebert
Speaking of b7971's , I see a pair of untested 7971's on Ebay with a 
starting bid of 150 USD eachyikes.
I'm glad I finished mine a few years ago.big tube, and quite versatile, 
and a bit ugly.

Whoever is determined enough to acquire a batch of these, rest assured 
you'll get used to the ugliness after awhile.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IV-17 Word Clock

2020-01-07 Thread Mitch Feig
Hi Richard,

The current version won't support more tubes. I will do a 15 or 16 tube
version, but I'm not sure when it will be available, but probably by the
summer. I haven't started working on the hardware or software yet.

The B7971 version will  be available by the end of this month, and the two
digit add-on board, probably a month or two later.

Regards,
Mitch


On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 8:53 AM Richard Scales 
wrote:

> Can you update us as to where the version that supports more IV-17 (like
> 12,15 or more etc) is sitting on your road map?
>
> Would there be add-on modules for the first kit or separate boards etc?
>
> I just need to update my own construction road map!
>
> Richard
>
> On Tuesday, 26 November 2019 12:19:55 UTC, Mitch wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I was a little surprised that the power supplies worked the first time. A
>> LM2576 is used to drop the supply voltage to 5v. Two 34063 chips raise that
>> voltage to 32v, and lower it to 1.65v. The datasheet and online calculators
>> for the 34063s made that part easy.
>>
>> The next revision will use separate tube boards. Curiously the tubes I
>> have with 1990 date codes aren’t very bright. The 1987 versions are good.
>>
>> I can’t seem to find matching LEDs for the blue-green color, to use for
>> colons. Otherwise everything works as it should.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: IMG-0185.jpg]
>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] National NL-1265 Datasheet?

2020-01-07 Thread Paul Andrews
I have six.

> On Jan 7, 2020, at 2:00 AM, Dieter Waechter  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Paul,
> Oh yes, you are right. This is true. I did not know that it also has a right 
> hand comma. I updated my database now.
> Do you have more than one of these?
> Best regards
> Dieter
> 
> 
> Am 06.01.2020 um 14:18 schrieb Paul Andrews:
> > Sounds like the B54370A might also be a substitute? 
> > https://www.nixies.us/bwg_gallery/b54370a/ I don't have a datasheet for 
> > that either, but as it was a pull from an HP laser interferometer that also 
> > had B5441A tubes in it, I assume it is electrically identical.
> >
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[neonixie-l] Re: IV-17 Word Clock

2020-01-07 Thread Richard Scales
Can you update us as to where the version that supports more IV-17 (like 
12,15 or more etc) is sitting on your road map?

Would there be add-on modules for the first kit or separate boards etc?

I just need to update my own construction road map!

Richard

On Tuesday, 26 November 2019 12:19:55 UTC, Mitch wrote:
>
>
>
> I was a little surprised that the power supplies worked the first time. A 
> LM2576 is used to drop the supply voltage to 5v. Two 34063 chips raise that 
> voltage to 32v, and lower it to 1.65v. The datasheet and online calculators 
> for the 34063s made that part easy.
>
> The next revision will use separate tube boards. Curiously the tubes I 
> have with 1990 date codes aren’t very bright. The 1987 versions are good.
>
> I can’t seem to find matching LEDs for the blue-green color, to use for 
> colons. Otherwise everything works as it should.
>
>
>
>
>
> [image: IMG-0185.jpg]
>
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Mod-Six inspired ZM1350 FLW

2020-01-07 Thread Richard Scales
That is super professional - well done indeed.

So, who's got some ZM1350 they can spare then?

On Saturday, 21 December 2019 04:13:42 UTC, Kevin A. wrote:
>
> Just thought I'd share a project I'm currently working on. I've enjoyed 
> the mod six 7971 clock for a while and was inspired to make a similar 
> modular design using the telefunken ZM1350 panaplex, which has almost the 
> same display area as a 7971 while being more compact in size. Of course, 
> you can expect a full write up soon on my site ( neonkev.com ). This 
> design will be fully open source, all schematics and board artwork 
> included, once the project is completed. 
>
> As of now, I have just laid out the first revisions of each of the 3 
> boards: a CPU, TDU (tube driver unit), and PSU, complete with virtual fit 
> checking. 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IV-17 Word Clock

2020-01-07 Thread Mitch Feig
Thanks!

Regards,
Mitch


On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 12:19 AM Michail Wilson  wrote:

> Ok thanks.
>
>
>
> Although I might still be interested in getting one, I will hold off as I
> thought they were all open source projects.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Michail Wilson
>
> 206-920-6312
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>
>
> *From:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Mitch Feig
> *Sent:* Monday, January 6, 2020 7:57 PM
> *To:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IV-17 Word Clock
>
>
>
> Hi Michail,
>
>
>
> It is only available as complete kit, less tubes. It is not open source.
> It will be available as soon as the boards arrive, definitely within ten
> days.
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>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mitch
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 8:37 PM Michail Wilson  wrote:
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> Kit form yet?   Price.
>
>
>
> Open project source like the Word Clock 1 and 2?
>
>
>
> Michail Wilson
>
> 206-920-6312
>
>
>
> *From:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Mitch
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 5, 2020 7:40 AM
> *To:* neonixie-l
> *Subject:* [neonixie-l] Re: IV-17 Word Clock
>
>
>
> This project is finished. I wasn't able to find any LED that came close to
> the color of the VFD displays, so I used 1.8mm white LEDs in series with a
> 10k resistor to match the dim glow of the displays.
>
>
>
> The driver for the six digit B7971 word clock is also finished, just
> waiting for some revised boards. The two digit add-on board is up next.
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