Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anyone here own a Millclock ZIN-70 besides me?

[Mark Van Pelt]

Is the board setup for z568m or the millclock in house pinout?

On Tue, Feb 8, 2022, 10:27 PM Richard Scales 
wrote:

> I don't have their clock - but i do have a board that drives 6 of their
> tubes as a wifi connected, ntp synced clock with motion detect option, web
> config, automatic time zone and DST , tube underlighting - just in case
> things go really bad
> Actually - I even have some boards for a two board version which take
> their colon towers too!
>  - Richard
>
>
> On Wednesday, 9 February 2022 at 01:26:50 UTC sbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Love my clock but there seems to be some bugs in the firmware. If any of
>> you have one of these I'd love discuss the clock with you and see if some
>> of my experiences are in line with yours.
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[neonixie-l] Re: Anyone here own a Millclock ZIN-70 besides me?

[Richard Scales]

I don't have their clock - but i do have a board that drives 6 of their 
tubes as a wifi connected, ntp synced clock with motion detect option, web 
config, automatic time zone and DST , tube underlighting - just in case 
things go really bad
Actually - I even have some boards for a two board version which take their 
colon towers too!
 - Richard


On Wednesday, 9 February 2022 at 01:26:50 UTC sbu...@gmail.com wrote:

> Love my clock but there seems to be some bugs in the firmware. If any of 
> you have one of these I'd love discuss the clock with you and see if some 
> of my experiences are in line with yours.

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RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894

[Michail Wilson]

Understood.  Agreed.  I need to relax too.

Just to clarify, I was talking about the Spiral and not exact information.  I 
guess in this group, I should be exact.  😊


Michail Wilson
206-920-6312

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Audrey
Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 3:26 PM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894

Woahhh calm down... I was just trying to make it clear for anyone reading that 
they arent the same part exactly- to eliminate any possible future confusion.
I dont have all 3 on hand so I cant give you complete comparisons but 6977s are 
thinner and longer than iv-15s...

On Tue, Feb 8, 2022, 6:22 PM Michail Wilson 
mailto:m...@michail.com>> wrote:
I’m sorry.

You are absolutely right, but it would be nice if you could elaborate instead 
of just saying they are not.

Other than being from different manufactures and having different part numbers 
and many other things, like glass, exact size, etc, they are 100% different.

If you relax a little, my point was that all three are Spiral’s.   My comment 
was regarding the appearance of a spiral and not the exact similarities and 
differences.

Michail

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Audrey
Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 3:12 PM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894

Theyre similar but I know that the 6977 and iv-15 are not identical

On Tue, Feb 8, 2022, 6:11 PM Michail Wilson 
mailto:m...@michail.com>> wrote:
I was referring to your clock.  Love it.

I was just trying to say the spiral tubes are great – All three are the same 
thing -- IV-15, DM160, 6977


Michail Wilson
206-920-6312

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Paul Andrews
Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 6:42 AM
To: neonixie-l mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894

If you're referring to my clock, they are IV-15.
On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 6:06:28 PM UTC-5 M1 wrote:
A clock was posted with the colons.  Love the spiral.

I found them to be:
IV-15 or DM160 or 6977

I bought a bunch thinking they were a lot bigger and was disappointed with the 
size, but still like them.

Was surprised when I just checked to see their prices.   Damn.

Michail Wilson
206-920-6312

From: neoni...@googlegroups.com 
mailto:neoni...@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Audrey
Sent: Saturday, February 5, 2022 9:14 AM
To: neoni...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894

Nice little collection bill :), wonderful tubes either way of course

On Sat, Feb 5, 2022, 8:34 AM Bill Notfaded 
mailto:notf...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I love these tube with and without mica.  When I first saw them without mica I 
had to have some because they are unlike any other VFD I've ever seen!

Bill
On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 10:16:44 AM UTC-7 
tntm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Bill, the DT-1704A, DT-1704B, DT-1705A and DT-1705B Digivac tubes actually 
had true floating segments without mica sheets, the later DT-1704C and DT-1705C 
tubes implemented the mics sheet, probably a good change for reliability.

On Fri, Feb 4, 2022, 5:44 AM Bill Notfaded 
mailto:notf...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Awesome thanks for the datasheet!  It looked to me similar to the other what I 
call floating VFD on mica type tubes like a handful of others.

Bill
On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 7:01:53 PM UTC-7 charles wrote:
According to the original data sheet the 8894 is more or less standard
7 segment VFD. clipping from the TCA Data Cache.


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894

[Audrey]

Woahhh calm down... I was just trying to make it clear for anyone reading
that they arent the same part exactly- to eliminate any possible future
confusion.
I dont have all 3 on hand so I cant give you complete comparisons but 6977s
are thinner and longer than iv-15s...

On Tue, Feb 8, 2022, 6:22 PM Michail Wilson  wrote:

> I’m sorry.
>
>
>
> You are absolutely right, but it would be nice if you could elaborate
> instead of just saying they are not.
>
>
>
> Other than being from different manufactures and having different part
> numbers and many other things, like glass, exact size, etc, they are 100%
> different.
>
>
>
> If you relax a little, my point was that all three are Spiral’s.   My
> comment was regarding the appearance of a spiral and not the exact
> similarities and differences.
>
>
>
> Michail
>
>
>
> *From:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Audrey
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 8, 2022 3:12 PM
> *To:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894
>
>
>
> Theyre similar but I know that the 6977 and iv-15 are not identical
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022, 6:11 PM Michail Wilson  wrote:
>
> I was referring to your clock.  Love it.
>
>
>
> I was just trying to say the spiral tubes are great – All three are the
> same thing -- IV-15, DM160, 6977
>
>
>
>
>
> Michail Wilson
>
> 206-920-6312
>
>
>
> *From:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Paul Andrews
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 8, 2022 6:42 AM
> *To:* neonixie-l 
> *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894
>
>
>
> If you're referring to my clock, they are IV-15.
>
> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 6:06:28 PM UTC-5 M1 wrote:
>
> A clock was posted with the colons.  Love the spiral.
>
>
>
> I found them to be:
>
> IV-15 or DM160 or 6977
>
>
>
> I bought a bunch thinking they were a lot bigger and was disappointed with
> the size, but still like them.
>
>
>
> Was surprised when I just checked to see their prices.   Damn.
>
>
>
> Michail Wilson
>
> 206-920-6312 <(206)%20920-6312>
>
>
>
> *From:* neoni...@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
> Of *Audrey
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 5, 2022 9:14 AM
> *To:* neoni...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894
>
>
>
> Nice little collection bill :), wonderful tubes either way of course
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 5, 2022, 8:34 AM Bill Notfaded  wrote:
>
> I love these tube with and without mica.  When I first saw them without
> mica I had to have some because they are unlike any other VFD I've ever
> seen!
>
> Bill
>
> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 10:16:44 AM UTC-7 tntm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi Bill, the DT-1704A, DT-1704B, DT-1705A and DT-1705B Digivac tubes
> actually had true floating segments without mica sheets, the later DT-1704C
> and DT-1705C tubes implemented the mics sheet, probably a good change for
> reliability.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022, 5:44 AM Bill Notfaded  wrote:
>
> Awesome thanks for the datasheet!  It looked to me similar to the other
> what I call floating VFD on mica type tubes like a handful of others.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 7:01:53 PM UTC-7 charles wrote:
>
> According to the original data sheet the 8894 is more or less standard
> 7 segment VFD. clipping from the TCA Data Cache.
>
>
> --
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> cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe
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RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894

[Michail Wilson]

I’m sorry.

You are absolutely right, but it would be nice if you could elaborate instead 
of just saying they are not.

Other than being from different manufactures and having different part numbers 
and many other things, like glass, exact size, etc, they are 100% different.

If you relax a little, my point was that all three are Spiral’s.   My comment 
was regarding the appearance of a spiral and not the exact similarities and 
differences.

Michail

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Audrey
Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 3:12 PM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894

Theyre similar but I know that the 6977 and iv-15 are not identical

On Tue, Feb 8, 2022, 6:11 PM Michail Wilson 
mailto:m...@michail.com>> wrote:
I was referring to your clock.  Love it.

I was just trying to say the spiral tubes are great – All three are the same 
thing -- IV-15, DM160, 6977


Michail Wilson
206-920-6312

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Paul Andrews
Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 6:42 AM
To: neonixie-l mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894

If you're referring to my clock, they are IV-15.
On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 6:06:28 PM UTC-5 M1 wrote:
A clock was posted with the colons.  Love the spiral.

I found them to be:
IV-15 or DM160 or 6977

I bought a bunch thinking they were a lot bigger and was disappointed with the 
size, but still like them.

Was surprised when I just checked to see their prices.   Damn.

Michail Wilson
206-920-6312

From: neoni...@googlegroups.com 
mailto:neoni...@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Audrey
Sent: Saturday, February 5, 2022 9:14 AM
To: neoni...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894

Nice little collection bill :), wonderful tubes either way of course

On Sat, Feb 5, 2022, 8:34 AM Bill Notfaded 
mailto:notf...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I love these tube with and without mica.  When I first saw them without mica I 
had to have some because they are unlike any other VFD I've ever seen!

Bill
On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 10:16:44 AM UTC-7 
tntm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Bill, the DT-1704A, DT-1704B, DT-1705A and DT-1705B Digivac tubes actually 
had true floating segments without mica sheets, the later DT-1704C and DT-1705C 
tubes implemented the mics sheet, probably a good change for reliability.

On Fri, Feb 4, 2022, 5:44 AM Bill Notfaded 
mailto:notf...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Awesome thanks for the datasheet!  It looked to me similar to the other what I 
call floating VFD on mica type tubes like a handful of others.

Bill
On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 7:01:53 PM UTC-7 charles wrote:
According to the original data sheet the 8894 is more or less standard
7 segment VFD. clipping from the TCA Data Cache.


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894

[Audrey]

Theyre similar but I know that the 6977 and iv-15 are not identical

On Tue, Feb 8, 2022, 6:11 PM Michail Wilson  wrote:

> I was referring to your clock.  Love it.
>
>
>
> I was just trying to say the spiral tubes are great – All three are the
> same thing -- IV-15, DM160, 6977
>
>
>
>
>
> Michail Wilson
>
> 206-920-6312
>
>
>
> *From:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Paul Andrews
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 8, 2022 6:42 AM
> *To:* neonixie-l 
> *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894
>
>
>
> If you're referring to my clock, they are IV-15.
>
> On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 6:06:28 PM UTC-5 M1 wrote:
>
> A clock was posted with the colons.  Love the spiral.
>
>
>
> I found them to be:
>
> IV-15 or DM160 or 6977
>
>
>
> I bought a bunch thinking they were a lot bigger and was disappointed with
> the size, but still like them.
>
>
>
> Was surprised when I just checked to see their prices.   Damn.
>
>
>
> Michail Wilson
>
> 206-920-6312 <(206)%20920-6312>
>
>
>
> *From:* neoni...@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
> Of *Audrey
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 5, 2022 9:14 AM
> *To:* neoni...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894
>
>
>
> Nice little collection bill :), wonderful tubes either way of course
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 5, 2022, 8:34 AM Bill Notfaded  wrote:
>
> I love these tube with and without mica.  When I first saw them without
> mica I had to have some because they are unlike any other VFD I've ever
> seen!
>
> Bill
>
> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 10:16:44 AM UTC-7 tntm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi Bill, the DT-1704A, DT-1704B, DT-1705A and DT-1705B Digivac tubes
> actually had true floating segments without mica sheets, the later DT-1704C
> and DT-1705C tubes implemented the mics sheet, probably a good change for
> reliability.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022, 5:44 AM Bill Notfaded  wrote:
>
> Awesome thanks for the datasheet!  It looked to me similar to the other
> what I call floating VFD on mica type tubes like a handful of others.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
> On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 7:01:53 PM UTC-7 charles wrote:
>
> According to the original data sheet the 8894 is more or less standard
> 7 segment VFD. clipping from the TCA Data Cache.
>
>
> --
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> cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe
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RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894

[Michail Wilson]

I was referring to your clock.  Love it.

I was just trying to say the spiral tubes are great – All three are the same 
thing -- IV-15, DM160, 6977


Michail Wilson
206-920-6312

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Paul Andrews
Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 6:42 AM
To: neonixie-l 
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894

If you're referring to my clock, they are IV-15.
On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 6:06:28 PM UTC-5 M1 wrote:
A clock was posted with the colons.  Love the spiral.

I found them to be:
IV-15 or DM160 or 6977

I bought a bunch thinking they were a lot bigger and was disappointed with the 
size, but still like them.

Was surprised when I just checked to see their prices.   Damn.

Michail Wilson
206-920-6312

From: neoni...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Audrey
Sent: Saturday, February 5, 2022 9:14 AM
To: neoni...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894

Nice little collection bill :), wonderful tubes either way of course

On Sat, Feb 5, 2022, 8:34 AM Bill Notfaded  wrote:
I love these tube with and without mica.  When I first saw them without mica I 
had to have some because they are unlike any other VFD I've ever seen!

Bill
On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 10:16:44 AM UTC-7 tntm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Bill, the DT-1704A, DT-1704B, DT-1705A and DT-1705B Digivac tubes actually 
had true floating segments without mica sheets, the later DT-1704C and DT-1705C 
tubes implemented the mics sheet, probably a good change for reliability.

On Fri, Feb 4, 2022, 5:44 AM Bill Notfaded  wrote:
Awesome thanks for the datasheet!  It looked to me similar to the other what I 
call floating VFD on mica type tubes like a handful of others.

Bill
On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 7:01:53 PM UTC-7 charles wrote:
According to the original data sheet the 8894 is more or less standard
7 segment VFD. clipping from the TCA Data Cache.


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Re: [neonixie-l] Sale IN-14 used

[Nick Andrews]

Sounds good to me.  Thank you.

On Mon, Feb 7, 2022, 1:28 PM Yuriy Ovchinnikov 
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> I will write to you when I receive them.
>
> пн, 7 февр. 2022 г. в 21:02, Nick Andrews :
>
>> Hello Yuriy,
>>
>> I am interested in 20, depending on shipping.   Texas, USA zip code
>> 78217.  Thank you.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2022, 8:17 AM 'Yuriy Ovchinnikov' via neonixie-l <
>> neonixie-l@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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>>> Hi,
>>> Sale 60 pcs. IN-14 used for $10 ea.
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894

[Paul Andrews]

If you're referring to my clock, they are IV-15.

On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 6:06:28 PM UTC-5 M1 wrote:

> A clock was posted with the colons.  Love the spiral.
>
>  
>
> I found them to be:
>
> IV-15 or DM160 or 6977
>
>  
>
> I bought a bunch thinking they were a lot bigger and was disappointed with 
> the size, but still like them.
>
>  
>
> Was surprised when I just checked to see their prices.   Damn.
>
>  
>
> Michail Wilson
>
> 206-920-6312 <(206)%20920-6312>
>
>  
>
> *From:* neoni...@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
> Of *Audrey
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 5, 2022 9:14 AM
> *To:* neoni...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894
>
>  
>
> Nice little collection bill :), wonderful tubes either way of course
>
>  
>
> On Sat, Feb 5, 2022, 8:34 AM Bill Notfaded  wrote:
>
> I love these tube with and without mica.  When I first saw them without 
> mica I had to have some because they are unlike any other VFD I've ever 
> seen!
>
> Bill
>
> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 10:16:44 AM UTC-7 tntm...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Hi Bill, the DT-1704A, DT-1704B, DT-1705A and DT-1705B Digivac tubes 
> actually had true floating segments without mica sheets, the later DT-1704C 
> and DT-1705C tubes implemented the mics sheet, probably a good change for 
> reliability.
>
>  
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022, 5:44 AM Bill Notfaded  wrote:
>
> Awesome thanks for the datasheet!  It looked to me similar to the other 
> what I call floating VFD on mica type tubes like a handful of others.
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
> On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 7:01:53 PM UTC-7 charles wrote:
>
> According to the original data sheet the 8894 is more or less standard 
> 7 segment VFD. clipping from the TCA Data Cache. 
>
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