[neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!!
He has interesting username... matveynaibay Matvey it's a regular russian name, but naibay - not means on ebay or something. In russian naibay means - to cheat, to screw, to deceive. Disgusting... Daniil. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/xObCReIywmMJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: looking for Weston: Cold cathode glow discharge tubes
Me from Tel Aviv area, Israel. Love vacuum tubes from both sides - electrical and aesthetic (i'm designer). Thank you for the information, and of course for the hard scanning work! You have beautiful blog with good pictures! As Vladimir sad Kovar (Rodar) alloys work the best with the borosilicate glass. You can try to make the kovar glass metal seal by yourself, but it's little bit problematic to get the material. If you want to experiment I have some amount of kovar wire and I can share some for free. Anyway, try to flatten the metal in the place of seal, it will release glass tension. Daniil. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-gpFWKxnsOZw/T60BYiktQiI/AOU/zmnw91BoRWA/s1600/glass+tention.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/IC-zTBUJgK0J. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: looking for Weston: Cold cathode glow discharge tubes
Hello, Dalibor and Vladimir. I'm from Tel Aviv area, Israel. Love vacuum tubes from both sides - electrical and aesthetic (i'm designer). Thank you for the information, and of course for the hard scanning work! You have beautiful blog with good pictures! As Vladimir said Kovar (Rodar) alloys work the best with the borosilicate glass. You can try to make the kovar glass metal seal by yourself, but it's little bit problematic to get the material. If you want to experiment I have some amount of kovar wire and I can share some for free. Anyway, try to flatten the metal in the place of seal, it will release glass tension. Daniil. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/6slPn8qiPqEJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: looking for Weston: Cold cathode glow discharge tubes
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: looking for Weston: Cold cathode glow discharge tubes
Hi Dalibor, Yeah it's mine :) , if you want i can send you some amount of Kovar wire to experiment with (you don't need to flaten the Kovar) so it's easier. And you can weld other wires to it. Dan. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/oUo7puuGvC4J. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: looking for Weston: Cold cathode glow discharge tubes
Thanks (about designer) :) About Kovar, give me your adress and I will send you (to email of course) About webpage I don't have, now I'm studying Master's degree so I completely have no time to make one. All my spare time goes to build my little home workshop and it goes very very slow... Maybe in summer... (Just an idea) My first thought was when I came to this forum and saw that there are people here who are trying to make tubes, is that we need to create some sort of web page or Pdf document which brings together the information in a simple way about creating tubes and nixies, I know that is very big amount of information - but we can cover at least a very basic information to begin with, about, lets say - glass types some information about gas mixtures used in nixies glass metal seals basics, pressures and what sort of vacuum pump is needed and ... etc. For instance I still don't know exactly what kind of vacuum pump I need to purchase... and searching for the information sometimes takes sooo long time... So in the end it will simplify the process for those who are interested in creating lamps. I can offer my skills in graphics, 3D and animation. Dan. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/00VKDUCF6j0J. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: looking for Weston: Cold cathode glow discharge tubes
Hello, I'm searching for the same book for the same purpose. I want to make nixie tube by myself. I have all information about the glassblowing process and metal-glass seals, but have no information about gas mixtures and pressures. So I will appreciate if anyone can help. Thanks, Daniil. On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 12:29:46 AM UTC-8, Vladimir Vucicevic wrote: Thanks, this book is useful, I downloaded a lot of stuff from tubebooks.org but I haven't notice this one. I still need G.F. Weston Cold cathode glow discharge tubes. Vladimir On 1 May, 17:45, Instrument Resources of America iracosa...@hughes.net wrote: This may or may not be the one you are looking for. But it is an excellent book on glow discharge lamps and devices, neon lamps. http://www.tubebooks.org/tubedata/Glowlamp.pdf Good luck Ira. On 5/1/2012 8:01 AM, Vladimir Vucicevic wrote: Hi all! I'm new member of this group. I'm currently working my way to set up a home workshop for nixie tubes. Just planing for now. I researched a lot and I found that many people mentions this book (G.F. Weston, Cold cathode glow discharge tubes) but of course I can't find it anywhere. Is there a way for me to get a PDF of this book (I'll return it, I promise :) ). I would appreciate that a lot! Thanks! Vladimir On 10 Apr, 15:12, Dieter Waechteri...@nocrotec.com wrote: Hi! I have the original book and a DVD with a scan of the book. Contact me outside: i...@nocrotec.com Please note that the original book is not cheap. Dieter Am 10.04.2012 14:46, schrieb Dalibor Farn : Hello guys, I am looking for the book from G.F.Weston,Cold cathode glow discharge tubes, 1968, but it is (surprisingly) sold out everywhere ;-) is there someone so kind to provide me a PDF or some other ebook? Thank You! Dalibor IRACOSALES.vcf 1KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/useN_ayW-M0J. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: looking for Weston: Cold cathode glow discharge tubes
Hi Jens, Thanks for fast answer, the second thing I'm looking for is information about metals used in cathodes and anode, and correlation between size of the electrodes and distances between them. Thanks in advance, Daniil. On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:47:15 AM UTC-8, Jens Boos wrote: Hi, it is a Penning mixture of 1% Argon in 99% Neon (of course), but you can just as easily work with Neon, only the ignition voltage will be a little higher. Typical pressures are around 20 Torr or 30 mbar. Best regards, Jens Hello, I'm searching for the same book for the same purpose. I want to make nixie tube by myself. I have all information about the glassblowing process and metal-glass seals, but have no information about gas mixtures and pressures. So I will appreciate if anyone can help. Thanks, Daniil. On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 12:29:46 AM UTC-8, Vladimir Vucicevic wrote: Thanks, this book is useful, I downloaded a lot of stuff from tubebooks.org but I haven't notice this one. I still need G.F. Weston Cold cathode glow discharge tubes. Vladimir On 1 May, 17:45, Instrument Resources of America iracosa...@hughes.net wrote: This may or may not be the one you are looking for. But it is an excellent book on glow discharge lamps and devices, neon lamps. http://www.tubebooks.org/tubedata/Glowlamp.pdf Good luck Ira. On 5/1/2012 8:01 AM, Vladimir Vucicevic wrote: Hi all! I'm new member of this group. I'm currently working my way to set up a home workshop for nixie tubes. Just planing for now. I researched a lot and I found that many people mentions this book (G.F. Weston, Cold cathode glow discharge tubes) but of course I can't find it anywhere. Is there a way for me to get a PDF of this book (I'll return it, I promise :) ). I would appreciate that a lot! Thanks! Vladimir On 10 Apr, 15:12, Dieter Waechteri...@nocrotec.com wrote: Hi! I have the original book and a DVD with a scan of the book. Contact me outside: i...@nocrotec.com Please note that the original book is not cheap. Dieter Am 10.04.2012 14:46, schrieb Dalibor Farn : Hello guys, I am looking for the book from G.F.Weston,Cold cathode glow discharge tubes, 1968, but it is (surprisingly) sold out everywhere ;-) is there someone so kind to provide me a PDF or some other ebook? Thank You! Dalibor IRACOSALES.vcf 1KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/useN_ayW-M0J. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:47:15 AM UTC-8, Jens Boos wrote: Hi, it is a Penning mixture of 1% Argon in 99% Neon (of course), but you can just as easily work with Neon, only the ignition voltage will be a little higher. Typical pressures are around 20 Torr or 30 mbar. Best regards, Jens Hello, I'm searching for the same book for the same purpose. I want to make nixie tube by myself. I have all information about the glassblowing process and metal-glass seals, but have no information about gas mixtures and pressures. So I will appreciate if anyone can help. Thanks, Daniil. On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 12:29:46 AM UTC-8, Vladimir Vucicevic wrote: Thanks, this book is useful, I downloaded a lot of stuff from tubebooks.org but I haven't notice this one. I still need G.F. Weston Cold cathode glow discharge tubes. Vladimir On 1 May, 17:45, Instrument Resources of America iracosa...@hughes.net wrote: This may or may not be the one you are looking for. But it is an excellent book on glow discharge lamps and devices, neon lamps. http://www.tubebooks.org/tubedata/Glowlamp.pdf Good luck Ira. On 5/1/2012 8:01 AM, Vladimir Vucicevic wrote: Hi all! I'm new member of this group. I'm currently working my way to set up a home workshop for nixie tubes. Just planing for now. I researched a lot and I found that many people mentions this book (G.F. Weston, Cold cathode glow discharge tubes) but of course I can't find it anywhere. Is there a way for me to get a PDF of this book (I'll return it, I promise :) ). I would appreciate that a lot! Thanks! Vladimir On 10 Apr, 15:12, Dieter Waechteri...@nocrotec.com wrote: Hi! I have the original book and a DVD with a scan of the book. Contact me outside: i...@nocrotec.com Please note that the original book is not cheap. Dieter Am 10.04.2012 14:46, schrieb Dalibor Farn : Hello
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: looking for Weston: Cold cathode glow discharge tubes
Jens, thanks again. I'm new here, but I feel that I'm in right place! People trying to make nixies!!! Wow I'm exited like a child! :):):) I don't know what is Pashen curves, but from the wiki first glance I understand what do you mean, is exactly the correlation formula, except that we do not use full sheets of metal. ...Iron nickel alloys maybe you know what kind of alloy and what is the best choice? Dan. On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:56:04 AM UTC-8, Jens Boos wrote: Hi Daniil, some use iron, some use an iron-nickel alloy, I am trying stainless steel. I cannot answer your second question, but do you know Paschen curves? These will give you the ballpark. Jens Hi Jens, Thanks for fast answer, the second thing I'm looking for is information about metals used in cathodes and anode, and correlation between size of the electrodes and distances between them. Thanks in advance, Daniil. On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:47:15 AM UTC-8, Jens Boos wrote: Hi, it is a Penning mixture of 1% Argon in 99% Neon (of course), but you can just as easily work with Neon, only the ignition voltage will be a little higher. Typical pressures are around 20 Torr or 30 mbar. Best regards, Jens Hello, I'm searching for the same book for the same purpose. I want to make nixie tube by myself. I have all information about the glassblowing process and metal-glass seals, but have no information about gas mixtures and pressures. So I will appreciate if anyone can help. Thanks, Daniil. On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 12:29:46 AM UTC-8, Vladimir Vucicevic wrote: Thanks, this book is useful, I downloaded a lot of stuff from tubebooks.org but I haven't notice this one. I still need G.F. Weston Cold cathode glow discharge tubes. Vladimir On 1 May, 17:45, Instrument Resources of America iracosa...@hughes.net wrote: This may or may not be the one you are looking for. But it is an excellent book on glow discharge lamps and devices, neon lamps. http://www.tubebooks.org/tubedata/Glowlamp.pdf Good luck Ira. On 5/1/2012 8:01 AM, Vladimir Vucicevic wrote: Hi all! I'm new member of this group. I'm currently working my way to set up a home workshop for nixie tubes. Just planing for now. I researched a lot and I found that many people mentions this book (G.F. Weston, Cold cathode glow discharge tubes) but of course I can't find it anywhere. Is there a way for me to get a PDF of this book (I'll return it, I promise :) ). I would appreciate that a lot! Thanks! Vladimir On 10 Apr, 15:12, Dieter Waechteri...@nocrotec.com wrote: Hi! I have the original book and a DVD with a scan of the book. Contact me outside: i...@nocrotec.com Please note that the original book is not cheap. Dieter Am 10.04.2012 14:46, schrieb Dalibor Farn : Hello guys, I am looking for the book from G.F.Weston,Cold cathode glow discharge tubes, 1968, but it is (surprisingly) sold out everywhere ;-) is there someone so kind to provide me a PDF or some other ebook? Thank You! Dalibor IRACOSALES.vcf 1KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/useN_ayW-M0J. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:47:15 AM UTC-8, Jens Boos wrote: Hi, it is a Penning mixture of 1% Argon in 99% Neon (of course), but you can just as easily work with Neon, only the ignition voltage will be a little higher. Typical pressures are around 20 Torr or 30 mbar. Best regards, Jens Hello, I'm searching for the same book for the same purpose. I want to make nixie tube by myself. I have all information about the glassblowing process and metal-glass seals, but have no information about gas mixtures and pressures. So I will appreciate if anyone can help. Thanks, Daniil. On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 12:29:46 AM UTC-8, Vladimir Vucicevic wrote: Thanks, this book is useful, I downloaded a lot of stuff from tubebooks.org but I haven't notice this one. I still need G.F. Weston Cold cathode glow discharge tubes. Vladimir On 1 May, 17:45, Instrument Resources of America iracosa...@hughes.net wrote: This may or may not be the one you are looking for. But it is an excellent book on glow discharge lamps and devices, neon lamps. http://www.tubebooks.org/tubedata/Glowlamp.pdf Good luck Ira. On 5/1/2012 8:01 AM, Vladimir Vucicevic wrote: Hi all! I'm new member of this group. I'm currently working my way
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: looking for Weston: Cold cathode glow discharge tubes
Jens, thanks again. I'm new here, but I feel that I'm in right place! People trying to make nixies!!! Wow I'm exited like a child! :):):) I don't know what is Pashen curves, but from the wiki first glance I understand what do you mean, is exactly the correlation formula, except that we do not use full sheets of metal. ...Iron nickel alloys maybe you know what kind of alloy and what is the best choice? Dan. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/dgRGmLHoMyQJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: looking for Weston: Cold cathode glow discharge tubes
yep, I hope I get something glowing soon. - I want to see the process and of course results, good luck!!! I'm thinking now what kind of vacuum pump I need. Evacuation before filling gas what it must be? 10(-4) torr it's enough or I need more high vacuum? What is the process steps to fill the gas mixture in to? I'm handy with all glassblowing but process of evacuation and filling with gases is new for me. Sorry for noob questions. Dan. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/-/OcNW7ql050IJ. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
