RE: [neonixie-l] nixie clock using trigger tubes

[Konstantin]

Cool! Very unusual clock! Do you use  MTX90?  Do you think this version is more 
stable/reliable than your previous one on  NE-2 bulbs?

 

 

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Pieter-Tjerk de Boer
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 9:13 PM
To: neonixie-l
Subject: [neonixie-l] nixie clock using trigger tubes

 

 

I recently completed a nixie clock without any transistors, microcontrollers or 
other ICs, instead using trigger tubes to implement the digital counters:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3PBJUcKeoo

Actually, I'm not even using the 'trigger' function of these tubes, they are 
just used as neon lamps with a large difference between strike and maintaining 
voltage. It's this difference which allows one to build counters with them. 
I'll publish a more detailed description on my website later on.

Some may know that I built a similar clock over ten years ago:
  http://pa3fwm.nl/projects/neonclock/
That clock used regular NE-2 style neon lamps for the logic; unfortunately it 
became unreliable, as the lamps' properties changed with time. I hope the new 
clock will turn out to be more reliable...

Regards,
  Pieter-Tjerk

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RE: [neonixie-l] IN-23 "alphabet"?

[Konstantin]

Any 11 segments can display Cyrillic  characters. Some letters  may  not look 
nice, as  internal diagonal  segments are curved… 

 

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Mac Doktor
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 3:34 AM
To: neonixie-l
Subject: [neonixie-l] IN-23 "alphabet"?

 

I just snagged the last of 11 IN-23s for sale on eBay (a twelfth one was 
auctioned off first):

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/IN-23-ИН-23-ULTRA-RARE-USSR-11-segments-NIXIE-TUBE-with-2-dots-NEW-OLD-STOCK/224089043146

 

 

Definitely brand new. My question is what Cyrillic characters can it display? I 
assume that they would mainly be the first letters of words like "hours" and 
such.

 

Anyone?

 

 

Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
"The Mac Doctor"

https://www.astarcloseup.com/

 

“The book said something astonishing, a very big thought.
It said that the stars were suns, only very far away.
The Sun was a star, but close up.”—Carl Sagan, Cosmos, 1980

 

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RE: [neonixie-l] Re: IN-28's in real life...

[Konstantin]

No, It does not. It says that  picture 1.15 is for K133LA3/K155LA3

 

And you are right К134ЛБ1  is 2 2input NAND gates and 2 2input NOR gates

 

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Tyler Bourne
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 10:18 PM
To: neonixie-l
Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: IN-28's in real life...

 

Odd this site shows the К134ЛБ1 as  quad NAND gates?

http://ivatv.narod.ru/zifrovaja_texnika/1_02.htm

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RE: [neonixie-l] Russian multimeter translation

[Konstantin]

Yes, Resistances shown on the front panel are input impedances. 

Here are a few other translations:

ПРЕДЕЛ ИЗМЕРЕНИЯ = RANGE

СЕТЬ = MAINS

РОД РАБОТЫ = MODE

КОНТР. =  КОНТРОЛЬ =  CHECK POINTS

ВР. ИНД. = ВРЕМЯ ИНДИКАЦИИ =  INDICATION TIME

ВЧ = ВЫСОКАЯ ЧАСТОТА = HIGH FREQUENCY

НЧ = НИЗКАЯ ЧАСТОТА = LOW FREQUENCY

СДЕЛАНО В СССР = MADE IN USSR  ;-)

 

The rest sings are quite international or not clear ;-)) and  requires  to read 
Manual ...

 

 

 

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Mac Doktor
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 9:24 PM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Russian multimeter translation

 

 

On Jul 11, 2019, at 4:11 AM, kosbo.com  wrote:

 

It says  Вольтметр универсальный,  which was simply translated,  as  voltmeter 
universal.

 

Oops. I read it that way but mis-remembered it when I typed the post. I guess 
my Russian isn't half bad but my short term memory stinks. 8D

 





it could measure wide  range of voltage  from 1v to 1000v   with switch choice  
of high or low frequency signal. I think it could work with AC and DC input

 

I would not say it's multimeter, as I can see,  it cannot measure amps, ohms 
and so on...

 

Ah, the resistances must be input impedances.

 





Sign "П" meas "Перегрузка"  when input signal is out of range... 

 

Thank you for that! Could you translate some of the other markings for us?

 

 

BTW, I used to work for what is now known as The Rosetta Stone® during their 
formative years. I was the jack of all trades there and amongst  many other 
things handled the documentation for all the languages with non-Roman scripts. 
I have lots of experience with text I can't actually read. Sort of like the 
monks in the Middle Ages who copied Bibles and other books without reading or 
writing Latin or Greek.

 

 

Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
"The Mac Doctor"


"If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, Blade Runner 

 

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RE: [neonixie-l] ILC1-1/9 VFD display

[Konstantin]

Hi,

Because this display has been designed to show TV channel in soviet TVs

As far as I remember we only had 12 frequencies reserver for TV brioadcasting.

So 19 is more than enough and  really I have never seen  12 channels  at that 
time….

 

 

Konstantin

www.kosbo.com  

 

PS Some time ago  I have repaired a few TVs with this display.

 

 

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of John Perkins
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 4:47 PM
To: neonixie-l
Subject: [neonixie-l] ILC1-1/9 VFD display

 

This one has been bugging me for awhile - why make a two digit display that can 
count up to 19?

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RE: [neonixie-l] Just one more Little Bad Dog Designs Clock

[Konstantin]

May be!  Or in Bulgarian??

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From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Marcin Adamski
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Just one more Little Bad Dog Designs Clock

Maybe it is in Serbian?

On 20-Jan-16 04:54, Konstantin wrote:
> Looks great! But next time you make sign in Russian, for translation 
> you better ask here, (not Google L) , as we have Russian speaking 
> members in neonixie-l  group.

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RE: [neonixie-l] Just one more Little Bad Dog Designs Clock

[Konstantin]

Looks great! But next time you make sign in Russian, for translation you better 
ask here, (not Google L) , as we have Russian speaking members  in neonixie-l  
group.

Sorry if I have not got it, may be incorrect translation is the feature …

  

 

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Paul Parry
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 8:50 AM
To: neonixie-l
Subject: [neonixie-l] Just one more Little Bad Dog Designs Clock

 

Hi Guys,

 

Not very often I would post a clock in here, you would all get bored - but this 
one is rather neat and thought you would like to see it.

The 'Tesla' clock made for a client in Singapore! Slightly Steampunk but once 
shipped will probably never be seen again!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixies in Tomorrowland movie

[Konstantin]

Yes, These 2 IN-18 6 digits clocks are mine. 

Thanks, Kiran, for another trailer with close look at my clocks and George 
Clooney’s staring at it  ;-)

 

Yes, we have discussed it in October 2014, when first trailer was releases:

 

 

 

It's my  two IN-18 6digits clocks controlled by serial interface and  combined 
to 12 digits display.

 

It's 3rd time my IN-18 clocks go to movies/documentary...

 

 

All the best, Konstantin

www.kosbo.com

 



On Friday, October 10, 2014 12:23:33 AM UTC+4, rmp wrote:


Check out the trailer for the upcoming Disney movie "Tomorrowland".  At about 
1:40 in, there is a nixie display behind George Clooney.  Looks like twelve 
IN-18's, maybe.

 

http://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L 
<http://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=C0CcR4u02VPllyeykA6C1gnjXpOOsBueykti9AfKn8sO4AQgAEAEgpobwF1DgvM3x-f8BYMmO24j8o6gUyAEBqgQgT9DcSNWP5bTR48fdTDJ6Nbwk0uLE0i5CS6-q0PHmGPqABbP4_hjYBgSAB6-A4DSQBwOoB6a-Gw&sig=AOD64_2XUCs2pG0bq_j1ukvly2O6I85phg&rct=j&q=&ved=0CB8Q0Qw&adurl=http://clickserve.dartsearch.net/link/click%3Flid%3D4375748271684%26ds_s_kwgid%3D5870389031090%26ds_e_adid%3D50911933975%26ds_e_matchtype%3Dsearch%26ds_e_device%3Dt%26ds_url_v%3D2>
 
&ai=C0CcR4u02VPllyeykA6C1gnjXpOOsBueykti9AfKn8sO4AQgAEAEgpobwF1DgvM3x-f8BYMmO24j8o6gUyAEBqgQgT9DcSNWP5bTR48fdTDJ6Nbwk0uLE0i5CS6-q0PHmGPqABbP4_hjYBgSAB6-A4DSQBwOoB6a-Gw&sig=AOD64_2XUCs2pG0bq_j1ukvly2O6I85phg&rct=j&q=&ved=0CB8Q0Qw&adurl=http://clickserve.dartsearch.net/link/click%3Flid%3D4375748271684%26ds_s_kwgid%3D5870389031090%26ds_e_adid%3D50911933975%26ds_e_matchtype%3Dsearch%26ds_e_device%3Dt%26ds_url_v%3D2

 

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From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of MichaelB
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2015 3:19 AM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixies in Tomorrowland movie

 

I believe these are the Kosbo IN-18 clocks? I may be wrong. This has been 
brought to our attention in the past

On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 9:05:52 AM UTC-7, Kiran Otter wrote:

 
<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6Q-ZOfe_dDw/VUT1sTQMjkI/A8k/QVbaqjIX8RI/s1600/tomorrowland.png>
 

I noticed this in the trailer for Tomorrowland.  https://youtu.be/lWZ7O-RrATY




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RE: [neonixie-l] IV-18 VFD

[Konstantin]

Hi, 
I had IV-18 clock in stock for a while, now it's gone, but waiting for new
stock within 2-3 weeks
Here is the link to my  IV-18 clock:
http://www.kosbo.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=55&Itemid=
64

You can buy pcb, uController  and other components you might need.

Best regards, Konstantin
www.kosbo.com



-Original Message-
From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of pewter
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 6:07 PM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: [neonixie-l] IV-18 VFD

I am in the middle of producing my first nixie clock since I made one as a
17 yo student with  ttl some 40 years ago. However, I have just been given a
couple of IV-18  VFD tubes which look good. As I do not want to spend too
much time on them, but would like to use them, does anyone produce a pcb for
the tubes using a pic controller or pcb plus pre-programmed any other
controller?
Thanks

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RE: [neonixie-l] Anybody want to build some nixie tubes?

[Konstantin]

Great! If somebody got it, he must flood market with IN-18 tubes to cover
his/her expenses back, so IN-18 price goes down, but if he/she keeps the
same price?

Don't know how many months/years he/she would need.   

 

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Nicholas Stock
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:05 PM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: [neonixie-l] Anybody want to build some nixie tubes?

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261172534593?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
 &_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 

Saw thisprobably one of the most interesting listings on eBay I've seen
in a while...

 

Go on, who's got 40K to spend and wants to make some IN-18's? ;-)

 

Nick

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RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Circuit diagram for the Russian A-201 polyatron?

[Konstantin]

Hi John,
I used  a few old versions of Finereader from Abbyy:
http://finereader.abbyy.com/professional/

Konstantin
www.kosbo.com


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Behalf Of JohnK
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:56 PM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Circuit diagram for the Russian A-201
polyatron?

I am keen to get an OCR for Russian [to scan a  book on avionics and
aircraft instruments and translate it] Any tips appreciated.
John K.


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Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 2:15 AM
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Circuit diagram for the Russian A-201 
polyatron?


>I use google plus several years of my primary education. I was taught
> Russian in the school. Hardly remember anything now. I am attaching
> pages I have (in Russian but with a poor OCR).
...clip 

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RE: [neonixie-l] Second Scope Clock

[Konstantin]

Hi Grahame,

When you have your final version of Scope clock 2, It  would be great for me
to order a few kits or PCB sets, in case you are going to make prof
boards...

Please also let me know if you still have your Pro PCB VFD Approx Clock for
sale.

Best regards, Konstantin
www.kosbo.com



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From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Grahame Marsh
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 10:25 AM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: [neonixie-l] Second Scope Clock

Work in progress for a new scope clock.  But fully working and complete to
date with schematics, layouts, all source code (GCC-AVR) and a description
of how it works.

http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/scope2.html

Enjoy
Grahame

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RE: [neonixie-l] Iv18 only smaller

[Konstantin]

Hi,
It could be IV-21 or ILC1-9/8L VFD display

I have clock on this  VFD:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250801254567?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p39
84.m1555.l2649



Best regards, Konstantin
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From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of dr pepper
Sent: 05 October 2012 10:44
To: neonixie-l
Subject: [neonixie-l] Iv18 only smaller

I've asked this on another forum a few days back, either no-one knows or its
a quiet forum.

I have a couple of 8 digit vfd tubes, with seperate grids, leads all at one
end, I got them thinking they were iv18's, but when they arrived they are
smaller, does anyone have any idea what they'll be, they are about 10mm dia
and 75 long.

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RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Elektronika 7-06M

[Konstantin]

Hi Charles,
In my  Elektronika 7-06K  clock,  transformer is quite big, primary winds
are 0.35mm diameter (!!!)  and it looks like about 100-200W, no idea why
it's so big, probably they just used the standard one they had in stock, but
I have measured power and clock takes only 18-20W, so I am sure, the use
just one wind would be  OK and as far as I remember, when I disassembled and
investigated lots of circuits in the past ;-), there were lots of
transformers with  double 110V winds and they used switch on the device
back to change the voltage and I am quite sure that they were not used in
parallel  and  just one or 2 in series winds have been used.
I also never seen  any Soviet  transformers with fuse or thermal breaker
inside transformer, they always used external fuse only  ;-(

Best regards, Konstantin
 www.kosbo.com


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From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Charles MacDonald
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 7:36 PM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Elektronika 7-06M

On 12-08-25 08:53 AM, Konstantin wrote:

> Clock transformer  has 2 winds rated for 110volts connected in series, 
> so I believe, it's quite simple to re-solder one wire for  one wind 
> use for 110-120Vmains, as in USA.

Only catch with only using one winding is that it handles all the power. 
  Running 110volts rather than 220, of course means that the current
required doubles.  If you connect both windings in parallel, each takes half
the required current, and so they each carry the same load as if the two
were in series on 220.

I don't know if the soviet designers were into using fusible links in
transformers.  Many UL/CSA transformers have a "weak" link in the windings,
so over-current will open the primary.  To keep UL and CSA happy, that link
tends to be on the inside of the winding so that a consumer would not defeat
the protection.


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RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Elektronika 7-06M

[Konstantin]

Hi John,

I thought that instead of 2 serial connected winds, for 110V supply to use
only 1 wind, so there is  no cross phase  problem there. Or am I missing
something?

Best regards, Konstantin
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From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of JohnK
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:29 PM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Elektronika 7-06M

Careful, I thought that you would need to reconnect BOTH wires because of
phase.

John K.

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Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 10:23 PM
Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Elektronika 7-06M


...clip...
Clock transformer  has 2 winds rated for 110volts connected in series, so I
believe,
it's quite simple to re-solder one wire for  one wind use for 110-120Vmains,
as in USA.



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RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Elektronika 7-06M

[Konstantin]

IV-26 has been manufactured in 3 types, although all types are the same in
dimensions and  dot sizes, type 1 has  wires connected to each individual
dot, but type 2 has dots 1 and 2 connected together,  dots 3,4, 5 are also
grouped and 7,8 .  So type 2 tube has less wires and designed to use in
clocks like Electronika 7-06, type 3  has other dots grouped together and
for use in clocks like Electronika  7-06M 

 

 

Best regards, Konstantin

www.kosbo.com

 

 

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of kay486
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 6:32 PM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Elektronika 7-06M

 

How are the type 2 tubes different?

On Saturday, August 25, 2012 5:53:41 PM UTC+1, jrehwin wrote:

> On Saturday, 25 August 2012 15:52:49 UTC+1, jrehwin wrote: 
> > - one tube has been broken in transit and I have to replace it with
IV-26 
> > type 1, as I cannot find type 2 tube, even on ebay or in Russia  yet... 
> 
> Vitaly, do you have any of the type 2 tubes?  Or the orange or red
phosphor ones? 

> John, who is this Vitaly you refer to? 

He posted to the group a while back, offering to sell nixie, VFD, and
related tubes: 

> From: Vitaly Nart  > 
> Subject: [neonixie-l] Nixie supplier for your projects 
> Date: July 27, 2012 8:07:50 PM EDT 
> To: neonixie-l  > 
> 
> Hi, I am glad that many peoples have interest in nixie tubes. We can 
> offer you many nixie tubes of Soviet Union for your new projects. 
> There are many IN and IV types of tubes in my stock. Our company 
> accept Paypal and we can give you reasonable prices, datasheets and 
> charakteristics of tubes for your projects. I f you have interest in, 
> please contact with us. 
> Regards 
> Vitaly 

I don't know what he has in his stock, but I had been thinking of asking him

about some of the more obscure IV-26 or IVLM1-1/7 types, especially the 
orange or red phosphor variants.  Then you mentioned the type 2 tubes, and 
it occurred to me he might be able to source those. 

- John 

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RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Elektronika 7-06M

[Konstantin]

Hi Terry,

Thanks for your info on Electronica 7 clock, helped me a lot, as I got big
one, as a gift, and have played with it yesterday - 
- one tube has been broken in transit and I have to replace it with IV-26
type 1, as I cannot find type 2 tube, even on ebay or in Russia  yet...

My clock is quite young, mage in 1998, has all features of  06K model and 11
tubes per digit  plus, looks like, there is board to display temperature, 
but I have no idea what temperature sensor should be used with it...

Clock transformer  has 2 winds rated for 110volts connected in series, so I
believe,
it's quite simple to re-solder one wire for  one wind use for 110-120Vmains,
as in USA. 


Best regards, Konstantin
www.kosbo.com


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From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Terry Kennedy
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 8:36 AM
To: neonixie-l
Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Elektronika 7-06M

On Aug 1, 11:51 am, Terry Kennedy  wrote:
> The Big Elektronika article has now been
posted:http://www.tmk.com/blog/?p=419

One last Elektronika blog entry, to finish out the series - replica
faceplates: http://www.tmk.com/blog/?p=525

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RE: [neonixie-l] Custom VFD display design

[Konstantin]

Hi John,

You have to register once on www.kosbo.com  ( "create an account" text link
below Login yellow-ish button on the left, front  kosbo.com page or try this
direct link:
http://www.kosbo.com/index.php?option=com_user&view=register ), than use the
same credentials on kosbo.com site, our web shop and forum as well
Drop me private message if you have problem with it

Best regards, Konstantin


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Behalf Of Quixotic Nixotic
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 9:24 PM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Custom VFD display design


On 14 Jun 2011, at 19:02, kosbo.com wrote:

> http://www.kosbo.com/index.php? 
> option=com_content&view=article&id=70&Itemid=77

Konstantin, put me out of my misery. Where do I sign up for your forum? I
see plenty of places to login on various pages, but nowhere to actuaily
register. Where do I sign up? I have a head full of ideas for you that are
driving me crazy.

John S

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