[neonixie-l] Re: Trouble Issue Changing MOD-SIX Lumina WiFi

2024-02-18 Thread Jon D.
OK, success after about 35 minutes !!  Two (2) sets of LESSONS LEARNED 
below, one set for each Nixie clock I worked to changeover to a new network 
this weekend.

LESSONS LEARNED SET #1: After finding Carl's CLRNET procedure reference in 
the RECOVERY MODE section of the MOD-SIX Lumina manual (Appendix K), I 
performed that and saw an initial "Lost IP" message on reboot, but the old 
IP came back.  Turns out it was only temporary because I don't think I went 
out through -EXIT- after entering CLRNET.  (I also turned off the old 
router just in case MOD-SIX Lumina clock was locking up to it faster than I 
was trying to leave it.  I don't think that had any bearing on my eventual 
success.)  I repeated the CLRNET with -EXIT- this time, and the "Lost IP" 
message stuck and repeated.

Then the battle was with my phone connecting to the MOD-SIX network.  I had 
my phone within a foot or two of the clock (even though it was at the top 
of a set of shelves).  It seemed to be hit or miss if the MOD-SIX network 
would show up (but it was no longer shown as "disconnected" as 
yesterday...PROGRESS).  But it did show up occasionally.  And finally, once 
it did, I went into the setup and selected the new network, but it didn't 
work at first (there is a new mesh router satellite repeater with the new 
network withinh 15 feet of the MOD-SIX Lumina, so distance should not be an 
issue).  After several "rinse and repeat" cycles, the MOD-SIX finally asked 
for the password, which I entered (documented in the Lumina manual).  I 
entered the MOD-SIX password and then had to wait for the network list to 
show up on my phone to choose from.  Once that did, I selected the new 
network, entered that password, and success.  WHAT A RELIEF !!!

Thanks to all for the suggestions.  (Changing the new router SSID to be the 
same as the old network was NOT an option.  Too many WiFi devices were 
already on it, and the family was very happy with the new mesh router 
satellite connectivity around the house.  I didn't dare change that for 
fear of my life...)

LESSONS LEARNED SET #2: And one OTHER rather interesting WiFi changeover 
lesson learned.  This was with my Dalibor Farny R|Z568M Zen clock yesterday 
which took me about 2 hours.  Turns out the app Dalibor has you use 
(Android for me) to change WiFi networks has an issue with newer phones.  
On my Pixel 8, the buttons would not function (so I could not select a 
network !!).  After trying several times on my new phone to connect to a 
network but without buttons working, I carefully read the instructions line 
by line and found a note that stated if issues with the app arose, try an 
older phone.  So I dug out my (now old) Pixel 3 XL phone (now WiFi only), 
and it allowed the buttons in the app to function to select a new network 
!!!  Whew, thank goodness that finally worked as I was worn out by this 
point, and thanks to the web page for documenting that "feature" !!!

So those two Nixie clocks were the big challenges of the weekend and are 
now on the new network.  Again, thanks to Carl for pointing out the CLRNET 
mode for the MOD-SIX Lumina to close out this thread !!

Cheers,

Jon J.


On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 5:55:06 PM UTC-7 Jon D. wrote:

> I am changing ISPs.  In trying to changeover my MOD-SIX Lumina WiFi from 
> an existing WiFi from the old router to a new and different WiFi router, my 
> procedure is NOT working.  Both the prior (soon to be off) WiFi and new 
> WiFi are on and up.  
>
> I can see the MOD-SIX Lumina web server on the WiFi IP it says it is on 
> (the old router).  When I try to change the WiFi to the new SSID and PW via 
> the Lumina online web server, it shows the new WiFi SSID as an option, it 
> takes the SSID and PW input for the new WiFi router, and nothing happens.  
>
> I also tried doing this next to the MOD-SIX Lumina using my phone, but my 
> phone shows the MOD-SIX "network" as "disconnected".  Something is amiss.
>
> Is there a trick to doing this ??
>
> Jon J.
>
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Trouble Issue Changing MOD-SIX Lumina WiFi

2024-02-18 Thread Allen
You will have trouble sometimes if your router uses the same SSID for 2.4 ghz and 5ghz.I have split my router to two SSIDs “MyRouter2.4” and “MyRouter5”Good luck,AllenAllen Wisbey, W1SBYOn Feb 17, 2024, at 10:19 PM, gregebert  wrote:I had a similar problem with a different WiFi device, in this case it was a wireless camera. When I got my new WiFi router from my new ISP, I set the SSID and password to be the same as the previous router, so that it would be a "seamless" transition. Well, for most WiFi devices (laptops, phones, tablets), that was true. But for some odd reason, the camera did not connect to my new router, even after multiple reboots/power cycling of the new router and the camera.After the camera was shut-down for a few weeks, then powered-up, for some unexplained reason it linked-up with the new WiFi router. I have no explanation why, and it's frustrating because I was ready to do some low-level debugging.On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 4:55:06 PM UTC-8 Jon D. wrote:I am changing ISPs.  In trying to changeover my MOD-SIX Lumina WiFi from an existing WiFi from the old router to a new and different WiFi router, my procedure is NOT working.  Both the prior (soon to be off) WiFi and new WiFi are on and up.  I can see the MOD-SIX Lumina web server on the WiFi IP it says it is on (the old router).  When I try to change the WiFi to the new SSID and PW via the Lumina online web server, it shows the new WiFi SSID as an option, it takes the SSID and PW input for the new WiFi router, and nothing happens.  I also tried doing this next to the MOD-SIX Lumina using my phone, but my phone shows the MOD-SIX "network" as "disconnected".  Something is amiss.Is there a trick to doing this ??Jon J.



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[neonixie-l] Re: Trouble Issue Changing MOD-SIX Lumina WiFi

2024-02-17 Thread gregebert
I had a similar problem with a different WiFi device, in this case it was a 
wireless camera. When I got my new WiFi router from my new ISP, I set the 
SSID and password to be the same as the previous router, so that it would 
be a "seamless" transition. Well, for most WiFi devices (laptops, phones, 
tablets), that was true. But for some odd reason, the camera did not 
connect to my new router, even after multiple reboots/power cycling of the 
new router and the camera.

After the camera was shut-down for a few weeks, then powered-up, for some 
unexplained reason it linked-up with the new WiFi router. I have no 
explanation why, and it's frustrating because I was ready to do some 
low-level debugging.

On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 4:55:06 PM UTC-8 Jon D. wrote:

> I am changing ISPs.  In trying to changeover my MOD-SIX Lumina WiFi from 
> an existing WiFi from the old router to a new and different WiFi router, my 
> procedure is NOT working.  Both the prior (soon to be off) WiFi and new 
> WiFi are on and up.  
>
> I can see the MOD-SIX Lumina web server on the WiFi IP it says it is on 
> (the old router).  When I try to change the WiFi to the new SSID and PW via 
> the Lumina online web server, it shows the new WiFi SSID as an option, it 
> takes the SSID and PW input for the new WiFi router, and nothing happens.  
>
> I also tried doing this next to the MOD-SIX Lumina using my phone, but my 
> phone shows the MOD-SIX "network" as "disconnected".  Something is amiss.
>
> Is there a trick to doing this ??
>
> Jon J.
>
>

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