Re: [neonixie-l] Help needed with taylor 1363 smps
Thanks!!,I tried out a computer type atx supply feeding the 1363 @5-12vdc and it was super quiet,I really appreciate you repairing the unit I fried,I will be purchasing quite a few more as these are perfect for the projects I do,thanks again for a great product and outstanding service On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 4:38 PM, taylorjpt j...@tayloredge.com wrote: .whew,john taylor has got me out of the woods on this one,I had the pinout backwards,its rather confusing but problem solved(although I did render one unit garbage)I guess $13 isn't to bad a price to pay for learning the hard way Tony: No problem, and remember to send the cooked unit back for repair... Reminds me of my foray into TTL in the '70s when the question of Why are my chips so hot???!!! was answered by the question What's a 5V regulator for?. Here is something that you might also find useful in the future: http://ppl.ug/xgGiSrlYETg/ BTW, all units are now shipping with a 15pF capacitor on the transformer output winding to suppress the Noise which can occur at low output loads: See page 3 of http://ppl.ug/2sYmV9PWF1w/. This has the same electrical effect of putting your finger on top of the transformer. jt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/neonixie-l/8UE31gZOJW0/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all of its topics, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3616512e-1112-4c26-b9c2-981d55c92bfb%40googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CA%2BCObD0C3Y-xorvczF8TMtbDfFshCRc4M9xSqxUnCTLo_a4vHw%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Help needed with taylor 1363 smps
.whew,john taylor has got me out of the woods on this one,I had the pinout backwards,its rather confusing but problem solved(although I did render one unit garbage)I guess $13 isn't to bad a price to pay for learning the hard way Tony: No problem, and remember to send the cooked unit back for repair... Reminds me of my foray into TTL in the '70s when the question of Why are my chips so hot???!!! was answered by the question What's a 5V regulator for?. Here is something that you might also find useful in the future: http://ppl.ug/xgGiSrlYETg/ BTW, all units are now shipping with a 15pF capacitor on the transformer output winding to suppress the Noise which can occur at low output loads: See page 3 of http://ppl.ug/2sYmV9PWF1w/. This has the same electrical effect of putting your finger on top of the transformer. jt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3616512e-1112-4c26-b9c2-981d55c92bfb%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Help needed with taylor 1363 smps
Hello all and greetings from a new member and first time poster,I'm trying to figure out how to use these little 1363 smps from taylor electronic,I've tried using it in this configuration always on,I'm using a 9vdc 1000ma wallwart and have the +(plus) wire going to Vn and enable and the -(minus) wire going to ground but I get nothing out of the HV out,can anyone with expierience with these please for the sake of my sanity please show/tell me how I get these things to work,it looks simple but I just can't get it to work,thanks much in advance Sounds like it should work, yes. Here's what I would check if I were doing it. I'd check that wall wart to see if it was producing clean DC - many of them just give half-wave rectified DC with no filtering or regulation. Adding a capacitor (to filter and smooth it out) will help if this is the case, and adding a voltage regulator can help even more. That particular module doesn't like being turned on and off rapidly, so half-wave DC will make it unhappy. I'd also make sure I have the pinout right - an ohmmeter can verify that what are supposed to be the ground pins are all connected together. - John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9DA2A329-01CA-4224-9A32-B8DC6D7B8B11%40mac.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Help needed with taylor 1363 smps
I haven't use the smps but noticed that the spec sheet says that a floating Enable can destroy the module. Have you had power ON and no connections to the Enable? Safer to wire it to a pot? Are you supplying smooth DC to it? john k - Original Message - From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com To: Cc: Sent:Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:04:14 -0400 Subject:Re: [neonixie-l] Help needed with taylor 1363 smps Hello all and greetings from a new member and first time poster,I'm trying to figure out how to use these little 1363 smps from taylor electronic,I've tried using it in this configuration always on,I'm using a 9vdc 1000ma wallwart and have the +(plus) wire going to Vn and enable and the -(minus) wire going to ground but I get nothing out of the HV out,can anyone with expierience with these please for the sake of my sanity please show/tell me how I get these things to work,it looks simple but I just can't get it to work,thanks much in advance Sounds like it should work, yes. Here's what I would check if I were doing it. I'd check that wall wart to see if it was producing clean DC - many of them just give half-wave rectified DC with no filtering or regulation. Adding a capacitor (to filter and smooth it out) will help if this is the case, and adding a voltage regulator can help even more. That particular module doesn't like being turned on and off rapidly, so half-wave DC will make it unhappy. I'd also make sure I have the pinout right - an ohmmeter can verify that what are supposed to be the ground pins are all connected together. - John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9DA2A329-01CA-4224-9A32-B8DC6D7B8B11%40mac.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/741922fc969b8e0a04093829c896d13f0e337c96%40webmail.internode.on.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Help needed with taylor 1363 smps
So much for using webmail [I don't see quoted text]... I went off to look at the data after reading Tony's post and the reply went to John R's post ; he already said the main thing - DC. Try a battery? And maybe just a resistor from enable to rail I should have said. Have you made a connection between Enable and Rail that can't be interrupted? Don't rely on clips; solder a link/resistor Enable to rail ? John K. - Original Message - From: yend...@internode.on.net To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:40 AM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Help needed with taylor 1363 smps I haven't use the smps but noticed that the spec sheet says that a floating Enable can destroy the module. Have you had power ON and no connections to the Enable? Safer to wire it to a pot? Are you supplying smooth DC to it? john k - Original Message - From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Cc: Sent: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:04:14 -0400 Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Help needed with taylor 1363 smps Hello all and greetings from a new member and first time poster,I'm trying to figure out how to use these little 1363 smps from taylor electronic,I've tried using it in this configuration always on,I'm using a 9vdc 1000ma wallwart and have the +(plus) wire going to Vn and enable and the -(minus) wire going to ground but I get nothing out of the HV out,can anyone with expierience with these please for the sake of my sanity please show/tell me how I get these things to work,it looks simple but I just can't get it to work,thanks much in advance Sounds like it should work, yes. Here's what I would check if I were doing it. I'd check that wall wart to see if it was producing clean DC - many of them just give half-wave rectified DC with no filtering or regulation. Adding a capacitor (to filter and smooth it out) will help if this is the case, and adding a voltage regulator can help even more. That particular module doesn't like being turned on and off rapidly, so half-wave DC will make it unhappy. I'd also make sure I have the pinout right - an ohmmeter can verify that what are supposed to be the ground pins are all connected together. - John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9DA2A329-01CA-4224-9A32-B8DC6D7B8B11%40mac.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/741922fc969b8e0a04093829c896d13f0e337c96%40webmail.internode.on.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/D79911589A4E4FB1B1FACE4B5EDCC662%40compunet4f9da9. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Help needed with taylor 1363 smps
hi john,I have enable tied with Vn,I've tried a few different power sources but still no luck with this thing,I don't get it On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:10 PM, yend...@internode.on.net wrote: I haven't use the smps but noticed that the spec sheet says that a floating Enable can destroy the module. Have you had power ON and no connections to the Enable? Safer to wire it to a pot? Are you supplying smooth DC to it? john k - Original Message - From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Cc: Sent: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:04:14 -0400 Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Help needed with taylor 1363 smps Hello all and greetings from a new member and first time poster,I'm trying to figure out how to use these little 1363 smps from taylor electronic,I've tried using it in this configuration always on,I'm using a 9vdc 1000ma wallwart and have the +(plus) wire going to Vn and enable and the -(minus) wire going to ground but I get nothing out of the HV out,can anyone with expierience with these please for the sake of my sanity please show/tell me how I get these things to work,it looks simple but I just can't get it to work,thanks much in advance Sounds like it should work, yes. Here's what I would check if I were doing it. I'd check that wall wart to see if it was producing clean DC - many of them just give half-wave rectified DC with no filtering or regulation. Adding a capacitor (to filter and smooth it out) will help if this is the case, and adding a voltage regulator can help even more. That particular module doesn't like being turned on and off rapidly, so half-wave DC will make it unhappy. I'd also make sure I have the pinout right - an ohmmeter can verify that what are supposed to be the ground pins are all connected together. - John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9DA2A329-01CA-4224-9A32-B8DC6D7B8B11%40mac.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/neonixie-l/8UE31gZOJW0/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all of its topics, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/741922fc969b8e0a04093829c896d13f0e337c96%40webmail.internode.on.net . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CA%2BCObD1Za5_DKJUKXk6xvyaMLdbWzk-tdsADGFShCwihsK4V3g%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Help needed with taylor 1363 smps
I will try that now On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:29 PM, JohnK yend...@internode.on.net wrote: ** So much for using webmail [I don't see quoted text]... I went off to look at the data after reading Tony's post and the reply went to John R's post ; he already said the main thing - DC. Try a battery? And maybe just a resistor from enable to rail I should have said. Have you made a connection between Enable and Rail that can't be interrupted? Don't rely on clips; solder a link/resistor Enable to rail ? John K. - Original Message - *From:* yend...@internode.on.net *To:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:40 AM *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] Help needed with taylor 1363 smps I haven't use the smps but noticed that the spec sheet says that a floating Enable can destroy the module. Have you had power ON and no connections to the Enable? Safer to wire it to a pot? Are you supplying smooth DC to it? john k - Original Message - From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Cc: Sent: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:04:14 -0400 Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Help needed with taylor 1363 smps Hello all and greetings from a new member and first time poster,I'm trying to figure out how to use these little 1363 smps from taylor electronic,I've tried using it in this configuration always on,I'm using a 9vdc 1000ma wallwart and have the +(plus) wire going to Vn and enable and the -(minus) wire going to ground but I get nothing out of the HV out,can anyone with expierience with these please for the sake of my sanity please show/tell me how I get these things to work,it looks simple but I just can't get it to work,thanks much in advance Sounds like it should work, yes. Here's what I would check if I were doing it. I'd check that wall wart to see if it was producing clean DC - many of them just give half-wave rectified DC with no filtering or regulation. Adding a capacitor (to filter and smooth it out) will help if this is the case, and adding a voltage regulator can help even more. That particular module doesn't like being turned on and off rapidly, so half-wave DC will make it unhappy. I'd also make sure I have the pinout right - an ohmmeter can verify that what are supposed to be the ground pins are all connected together. - John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9DA2A329-01CA-4224-9A32-B8DC6D7B8B11%40mac.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/741922fc969b8e0a04093829c896d13f0e337c96%40webmail.internode.on.net . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/neonixie-l/8UE31gZOJW0/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all of its topics, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/D79911589A4E4FB1B1FACE4B5EDCC662%40compunet4f9da9 . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CA%2BCObD2cPiQWbsprYmKchhqLSuxa6W77cCT3R0gvPHwUkkVPYw%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [neonixie-l] Help needed with taylor 1363 smps
Did you use the electrolytic capacitor that was delivered with the unit and did you mount it as close as possible to the input connections? Did you check the dc from the wall wart with an oscilloscope under load conditions? Is that clean? _ From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of anthony prater Sent: dinsdag 16 juli 2013 18:50 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Help needed with taylor 1363 smps yes I have good solid connections to the pins using small molded terminals,connections are good,all I get out of the high voltage pin is the voltage I'm putting into it,I'm using a battery On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:29 PM, JohnK yend...@internode.on.net wrote: So much for using webmail [I don't see quoted text]... I went off to look at the data after reading Tony's post and the reply went to John R's post ; he already said the main thing - DC. Try a battery? And maybe just a resistor from enable to rail I should have said. Have you made a connection between Enable and Rail that can't be interrupted? Don't rely on clips; solder a link/resistor Enable to rail ? John K. - Original Message - From: yend...@internode.on.net To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:40 AM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Help needed with taylor 1363 smps I haven't use the smps but noticed that the spec sheet says that a floating Enable can destroy the module. Have you had power ON and no connections to the Enable? Safer to wire it to a pot? Are you supplying smooth DC to it? john k - Original Message - From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Cc: Sent: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:04:14 -0400 Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Help needed with taylor 1363 smps Hello all and greetings from a new member and first time poster,I'm trying to figure out how to use these little 1363 smps from taylor electronic,I've tried using it in this configuration always on,I'm using a 9vdc 1000ma wallwart and have the +(plus) wire going to Vn and enable and the -(minus) wire going to ground but I get nothing out of the HV out,can anyone with expierience with these please for the sake of my sanity please show/tell me how I get these things to work,it looks simple but I just can't get it to work,thanks much in advance Sounds like it should work, yes. Here's what I would check if I were doing it. I'd check that wall wart to see if it was producing clean DC - many of them just give half-wave rectified DC with no filtering or regulation. Adding a capacitor (to filter and smooth it out) will help if this is the case, and adding a voltage regulator can help even more. That particular module doesn't like being turned on and off rapidly, so half-wave DC will make it unhappy. I'd also make sure I have the pinout right - an ohmmeter can verify that what are supposed to be the ground pins are all connected together. - John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9DA2A329-01CA-4224-9A32-B8DC6D7 B8B11%40mac.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/741922fc969b8e0a04093829c896d13 f0e337c96%40webmail.internode.on.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/neonixie-l/8UE31gZOJW0/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all of its topics, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:neonixie-l%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/D79911589A4E4FB1B1FACE4B5EDCC66 2%40compunet4f9da9. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send
Re: [neonixie-l] Help needed with taylor 1363 smps
.whew,john taylor has got me out of the woods on this one,I had the pinout backwards,its rather confusing but problem solved(although I did render one unit garbage)I guess $13 isn't to bad a price to pay for learning the hard way On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Tony P redding1...@gmail.com wrote: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-BRu7Z58U1tU/UeVkJbX9LaI/AAs/Bd2kWFKvTX4/s1600/1363+always+on.jpg Hello all and greetings from a new member and first time poster,I'm trying to figure out how to use these little 1363 smps from taylor electronic,I've tried using it in this configuration always on,I'm using a 9vdc 1000ma wallwart and have the +(plus) wire going to Vn and enable and the -(minus) wire going to ground but I get nothing out of the HV out,can anyone with expierience with these please for the sake of my sanity please show/tell me how I get these things to work,it looks simple but I just can't get it to work,thanks much in advance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/neonixie-l/8UE31gZOJW0/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all of its topics, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/8244a224-bb38-4b64-b382-2e057c635c11%40googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CA%2BCObD1g78N56TQ4gFBQaRDi4BmjDpo7-0by5PZhWTFMnzCjSw%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
