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2019-11-27 Thread Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour

In relation to Holly Herndon, " “AI most likely won’t replace musicians
outright,” Herndon wrote. “Sentient AI is a fantasy that I think sometimes
distracts (often intentionally) from the political economic things that are
happening around the tech at the moment.” Herndon went on to discuss the
use of automated music systems to make stock music, how drum machines were
inspired by the work of great drummers, the role of automated tools in the
creation of music, the ethics of using an artificial “disembodied
representation of an artist,” and much more."

What disgusts me about this is that music is so much the presence of the
musician, performer; this is critical in, for example, Indian and Arabic
musics, Jazz, etc. This sounds so white/privileged to me, the position of
the listener paramount for example, the relegation of community to
reproduction, etc. It's a form of hip effacement. I realize I haven't read
everything HH's has written, but there's a fundamental difference between a
drum machine and a "great drummer" who came from community, breathes within
community, and contributes to community. Thinking for example of free jazz,
and the difficulties and explorations of the great players, the relation of
that music to the cry, the field holler, the blues, gospel musics, etc. -
and I keep returning to white white white white white and privilege.

Apologies, Alan, I shouldn't send this out, but watching too many musicians
suffer, some of the greatest homeless, and this comes across bad surface.

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 5:59 PM Rob Myers  wrote:

> Zola Jesus, Grimes, and Holly Herndon discuss AI, music and fascism -
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> https://pitchfork.com/news/holly-herndon-weighs-in-on-grimes-and-zola-jesus-debate-about-ai-and-the-future-of-music/
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> "Artificial Arboretum – Preservation of “photogrammetrees” found in
> Google Earth" -
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> https://www.creativeapplications.net/objects/artificial-arboretum-preservation-of-photogrammetrees-found-in-google-earth/
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> "The Shift to Online Art Sales with Cryptocurrency Artist Laurianna" -
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> https://anchor.fm/cryptoentrepreneurs/episodes/The-Shift-to-Online-Art-Sales-with-Cryptocurrency-Artist-Laurianna-e945ma
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> "a soft opening of works commissioned by left.gallery" -
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> https://www.fullnode.berlin/events/formenverwandler-left-gallery-at-full-node/
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> "On machine learning, creativity, and the law" -
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> https://whyisthisinteresting.substack.com/p/why-is-this-interesting-the-ai-copyright
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> "Understanding Digital Art & Blockchain - the basics for digital artists" -
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> https://codexprotocol.com/2019/11/27/understanding-digital-art-blockchain%E2%80%8A-%E2%80%8Athe-basics-for-digital-artists/
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> Blender3D has a much easier UI now and this is a good tutorial -
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBqYTgaFDxU
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> GNU Emacs for all -
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> https://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/emacsconf/2019/emacsconf-2019-04-gnu-emacs-for-all--slides--psachin.pdf
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> "Hard Problems in Cryptocurrency: Five Years Later" -
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> https://vitalik.ca/general/2019/11/22/progress.html
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> The Perfect Mario -
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> https://twitter.com/JennyENicholson/status/1198000240319590400
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[NetBehaviour] Links

2019-11-27 Thread Rob Myers

Zola Jesus, Grimes, and Holly Herndon discuss AI, music and fascism -

https://pitchfork.com/news/holly-herndon-weighs-in-on-grimes-and-zola-jesus-debate-about-ai-and-the-future-of-music/


"Artificial Arboretum – Preservation of “photogrammetrees” found in
Google Earth" -

https://www.creativeapplications.net/objects/artificial-arboretum-preservation-of-photogrammetrees-found-in-google-earth/


"The Shift to Online Art Sales with Cryptocurrency Artist Laurianna" -

https://anchor.fm/cryptoentrepreneurs/episodes/The-Shift-to-Online-Art-Sales-with-Cryptocurrency-Artist-Laurianna-e945ma


"a soft opening of works commissioned by left.gallery" -

https://www.fullnode.berlin/events/formenverwandler-left-gallery-at-full-node/


"On machine learning, creativity, and the law" -

https://whyisthisinteresting.substack.com/p/why-is-this-interesting-the-ai-copyright


"Understanding Digital Art & Blockchain - the basics for digital artists" -

https://codexprotocol.com/2019/11/27/understanding-digital-art-blockchain%E2%80%8A-%E2%80%8Athe-basics-for-digital-artists/


Blender3D has a much easier UI now and this is a good tutorial -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBqYTgaFDxU


GNU Emacs for all -

https://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/emacsconf/2019/emacsconf-2019-04-gnu-emacs-for-all--slides--psachin.pdf


"Hard Problems in Cryptocurrency: Five Years Later" -

https://vitalik.ca/general/2019/11/22/progress.html


The Perfect Mario -

https://twitter.com/JennyENicholson/status/1198000240319590400



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Re: [NetBehaviour] Time

2019-11-27 Thread Alan Sondheim




No I don't - will look for it - thanks, Alan

On Wed, 27 Nov 2019, Paul Hertz via NetBehaviour wrote:


Wondering if you know Ronald Johnson's extended poemtext ARK?
-- Paul


On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 12:26 PM Alan Sondheim  wrote:


  Time


  http://www.alansondheim.org/before.jpg
  http://www.alansondheim.org/here.jpg
  http://www.alansondheim.org/after.jpg

  seert dna seiks dna slair eht ,swonk ti gnith eht sdneb enil
  chae
  each line bends the thing it knows, the rails and skies and
  trees

  of death. Hannibal's elephants haunt the Alps. Where nothing
  skeletons, dust, death, hunger.:i forgot you jennifer landscape
  my mother died, what happens in any death: dispersion past,
  bones,
  auroras among deaths and births stars, i wait, this firsthand
  when
  !devoR !Devor !Devour death-like SERIF!! doings await, horizons
  is
  good, there are closeups autopsies on television closer it gets
  to
  vectors wayward closet attachments parts news around here isn't
  iris-maps continents seeps into - turning me Julu-Jennifer nodes
  ...ereh yrtsimehc ruoy si close (STDOUT); yM looks closely at
  eyes,
  written. close. will be mind/mine, root directory. Then
  noitatsurcne detnioj ynit sllaw srevoc noitcerruser

  ,yks ruoy ni nus eht fo noitisop tcaxe eht ,yad fo emit ruoy fo
  of your time of day, the exact position of the sun in your sky,
  s/lair


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Re: [NetBehaviour] Time

2019-11-27 Thread Paul Hertz via NetBehaviour

++ Yeah, the concentration of your writing in this moment moving.
// Paul

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 1:08 PM Paul Hertz  wrote:

> Wondering if you know Ronald Johnson's extended poemtext ARK?
>
> -- Paul
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 12:26 PM Alan Sondheim  wrote:
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>>
>>
>> Time
>>
>>
>> http://www.alansondheim.org/before.jpg
>> http://www.alansondheim.org/here.jpg
>> http://www.alansondheim.org/after.jpg
>>
>> seert dna seiks dna slair eht ,swonk ti gnith eht sdneb enil chae
>> each line bends the thing it knows, the rails and skies and trees
>>
>> of death. Hannibal's elephants haunt the Alps. Where nothing
>> skeletons, dust, death, hunger.:i forgot you jennifer landscape
>> my mother died, what happens in any death: dispersion past, bones,
>> auroras among deaths and births stars, i wait, this firsthand when
>> !devoR !Devor !Devour death-like SERIF!! doings await, horizons is
>> good, there are closeups autopsies on television closer it gets to
>> vectors wayward closet attachments parts news around here isn't
>> iris-maps continents seeps into - turning me Julu-Jennifer nodes
>> ...ereh yrtsimehc ruoy si close (STDOUT); yM looks closely at eyes,
>> written. close. will be mind/mine, root directory. Then
>> noitatsurcne detnioj ynit sllaw srevoc noitcerruser
>>
>> ,yks ruoy ni nus eht fo noitisop tcaxe eht ,yad fo emit ruoy fo
>> of your time of day, the exact position of the sun in your sky,
>> s/lair
>>
>>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Time

2019-11-27 Thread Paul Hertz via NetBehaviour

Wondering if you know Ronald Johnson's extended poemtext ARK?

-- Paul


On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 12:26 PM Alan Sondheim  wrote:

>
>
> Time
>
>
> http://www.alansondheim.org/before.jpg
> http://www.alansondheim.org/here.jpg
> http://www.alansondheim.org/after.jpg
>
> seert dna seiks dna slair eht ,swonk ti gnith eht sdneb enil chae
> each line bends the thing it knows, the rails and skies and trees
>
> of death. Hannibal's elephants haunt the Alps. Where nothing
> skeletons, dust, death, hunger.:i forgot you jennifer landscape
> my mother died, what happens in any death: dispersion past, bones,
> auroras among deaths and births stars, i wait, this firsthand when
> !devoR !Devor !Devour death-like SERIF!! doings await, horizons is
> good, there are closeups autopsies on television closer it gets to
> vectors wayward closet attachments parts news around here isn't
> iris-maps continents seeps into - turning me Julu-Jennifer nodes
> ...ereh yrtsimehc ruoy si close (STDOUT); yM looks closely at eyes,
> written. close. will be mind/mine, root directory. Then
> noitatsurcne detnioj ynit sllaw srevoc noitcerruser
>
> ,yks ruoy ni nus eht fo noitisop tcaxe eht ,yad fo emit ruoy fo
> of your time of day, the exact position of the sun in your sky,
> s/lair
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[NetBehaviour] Time

2019-11-27 Thread Alan Sondheim





Time


http://www.alansondheim.org/before.jpg
http://www.alansondheim.org/here.jpg
http://www.alansondheim.org/after.jpg

seert dna seiks dna slair eht ,swonk ti gnith eht sdneb enil chae
each line bends the thing it knows, the rails and skies and trees

of death. Hannibal's elephants haunt the Alps. Where nothing
skeletons, dust, death, hunger.:i forgot you jennifer landscape
my mother died, what happens in any death: dispersion past, bones,
auroras among deaths and births stars, i wait, this firsthand when
!devoR !Devor !Devour death-like SERIF!! doings await, horizons is
good, there are closeups autopsies on television closer it gets to
vectors wayward closet attachments parts news around here isn't
iris-maps continents seeps into - turning me Julu-Jennifer nodes
...ereh yrtsimehc ruoy si close (STDOUT); yM looks closely at eyes,
written. close. will be mind/mine, root directory. Then
noitatsurcne detnioj ynit sllaw srevoc noitcerruser

,yks ruoy ni nus eht fo noitisop tcaxe eht ,yad fo emit ruoy fo
of your time of day, the exact position of the sun in your sky,
s/lair


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[NetBehaviour] Mongrel Reparations

2019-11-27 Thread { brad brace }


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"Mongrel Reparations" is an e-book from Brad Brace, 2019-20 & 1980: 207 
sequenced pp; including depictions of artists Colette Urban and Robert 
Hamon in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada plus sudden digital printed carpet 
designs for the New Season. There are allusions to the installations of 
The MetaConstruct [see URL: http://bbrace.net/Metaconstruct.html] and 
maybe even to extended fascination with printed impressions.



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[NetBehaviour] "Networked Conversations as Activism"

2019-11-27 Thread Helen Varley Jamieson

my article "Networked Convesrations as Activism" was recently published
in the latest issue of Interact, a portuguese online magazine for art,
culture & technology. the article discusses the use of cyberformance and
networked conversations to encourage critical thinking & civic
engagement. (it's in english).

https://interact.com.pt/30-31/networked-conversations-as-activism/

the theme of the issue (30-31) is art, activism and digital networks, &
it also includes a review (in english) of the cyberformance "Letters to
the Earth" which we did in april this year
(https://interact.com.pt/30-31/letters-to-the-earth/). there are lots of
other interesting-looking articles, if you can read portuguese.

h : )

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he...@creative-catalyst.com 
http://www.creative-catalyst.com
http://www.upstage.org.nz

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[NetBehaviour] Children of Prometheus: Interview with artist Joana Moll.

2019-11-27 Thread marc.garrett via NetBehaviour

Children of Prometheus: Interview with artist Joana Moll.

Marc Garrett, curator of the current incarnation of the Children of Prometheus
exhibition at the NeMe gallery, in Cyprus, interviews artist Joana Moll about
the artwork, The Virtual Watchers, developed in collaboration with french
anthropologist Cédric Parizot.

This project began in 2010, and looks critically at an online platform group,
consisting of 203,633 volunteers surveilling the US-Mexico border, through a
social media platform, such as Facebook. The community of The Virtual Watchers
existed well before, and briefly, during, President Donald Trump’s signature
promise in 2016 to build a wall at the US southern border, to stop more
migrants crossing over onto US soil.

The project also touches on a wider online culture of attacks by bots and
trolls from clandestine right-wing groups. The interview also explores Joana
Moll’s interpretation of the Children of Prometheus exhibition, and briefly
discusses other projects such as CO2GLE, which is an attempt to visualize how
much carbon dioxide the company is emitting per second.

[https://www.furtherfield.org/children-of-prometheus-interview-with-artist-joana-mol](https://www.furtherfield.org/children-of-prometheus-interview-with-artist-joana-moll/)

Marc Garrett

Co-Founder, Co-Director, main editor for Furtherfield. Art, technology & social
change, since 1996 http://www.furtherfield.org

Furtherfield Gallery & Commons in the park. Finsbury Park, London N4 2NQ
http://www.furtherfield.org/gallery

Just finished PhD at Birkbeck University, London. Title -- 'Furthefield: Twenty
years of Art, Technology & Social Change.

Recent publications:

Artists Re:thinking the Blockchain. Eds, Ruth Catlow, Marc Garrett, Nathan
Jones, & Sam Skinner. Liverpool Press - http://bit.ly/2x8XlMK

State Machines: Reflections & Actions at the Edge of Digital Citizenship,
Finance, & Art. Edited by Yiannis Colakides, Marc Garrett, Inte Gloerich.
Institute of Network Cultures, Amsterdam 2019 http://bit.do/eQgg3

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