Re: [NetBehaviour] WikiLeaks Publishes Its List of Files for Download
I want to write something here, I even dreamed it, but I'm about to give a talk on disasters in Pennsylvania. That said, I only want to add that I find Assange bad, worse than Trump; I feel strongly that if it weren't for him, T. wouldn't have been elected. All information does not "want" to be free; I have things in my past I don't want revealed; people who are vulnerable to bullying want to keep that to themselves; I believe hospital records should be kept private and so forth. I woke up thinking - but this won't happen; the through is we are all neoliberals, neoliberal nodes, and we don't want to confront that. We are all blockchain; we are all Purdue; and so forth. But Assange deliberately timed the release of the HRC's emails so she wouldn't have time to respond - a T. tactic as well - and her campaign, admittedly flawed, collapsed; I remember her talking about that at the time. Comey put the nail in the coffee, again finding nothing, but holding up her campaign. And now we're seeing the results - Cold War brutality, rise in racism everywhere (yes, I'm personally scared being a Jewboy), refugees dying and treated like animals (which shouldn't be treated that way), etc. So for me, fuck Assange, I don't care where he's tried (as long as it's not the USA, one war criminal trying another), as long as he's tried. I'm ashamed of all of this, best, Alan On Thu, 18 Apr 2019, Michael Szpakowski wrote: Of course Assange is being punished for revealing the sheer nastiness of our rulers ( the excuses from Len?n Moreno for expelling him are simply risible)... but we can?t ignore the accusations against him. I refused to sign a petition the other day that simply said no extradition . I will sign one that says no extradition to the US or no onward extradition from Sweden but which also calls for him to answer any rape/ sexual violence charges because that currently seems to me the only possible basis currently on which we both oppose imperialism and neo liberalism *and* at the same time pay proper attention to solidarity with the victims of sexual violence.The two parts go together - simply calling for him to answer the Swedish charges, on its own, will not do either because that ignores the context of the objective anti imperialist outcome of the leaks and the desire for revenge of our rulers ( articulated by May when she made the announcement in Parliament..) Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, April 18, 2019, 12:41 pm, AG Forever wrote: ye i know do u sign the petition against extradition? just listened to domscheidt interview, assanges first partner. i am still so angry ? AGF: sound & curation twitter @poemproducer works : antyegreie.com > On 18 Apr 2019, at 12:29, marc.garrett via NetBehaviour wrote: > > Hi Antye, > > Completely agree - I think it's fair to say that the activist community is split on this. > > I personally think he should be sent to be trialed in regard to accusations of rape first. The investigation was dropped by the Swedish police in May 2017. > > And, yes - unforgivable if he had anything to do in helping Trump get elected and Brexit. It does not bode well that Farage met him at the Ecuadorian embassy. > > I'm more concerned for Chelsea Manning -- Assange said that Barack Obama only granted Clemency to Chelsea Manning, in order to make life hard for Assange. http://bit.do/ePTYj > > Wishing you well. > > marc > > ??? Original Message ??? >> On Tuesday, 16 April 2019 17:16, AGF poemproducer wrote: >> >> yes dear Marc, but also apparently some unnecessary leaks like names of gay individuals in saudi arabia and steve jobs with HIV, etc I am still struggling with wl contribution to brexit and US election >> >> we?ll see >> >>> On 16 Apr 2019, at 17:38, marc.garrett marc.garr...@protonmail.com wrote: >>> Hi Antye, >>> Yes - for it to be dominated by one individual was of course a terrible idea. >>> Looking at the files that remind us how corrupt our governments and the industries are, is not pleasant reading :-( >>> wishing you well. >>> marc >>> maybe wikileaks now becomes again what it used to be > On 16 Apr 2019, at 13:43, marc.garrett via NetBehaviour netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org wrote: > WikiLeaks Publishes Its List of Files for Download > https://file.wikileaks.org/file/ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org > https://lists.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > ___ > NetBehaviour mailing list >
Re: [NetBehaviour] WikiLeaks Publishes Its List of Files for Download
Of course Assange is being punished for revealing the sheer nastiness of our rulers ( the excuses from Lenín Moreno for expelling him are simply risible)... but we can’t ignore the accusations against him. I refused to sign a petition the other day that simply said no extradition . I will sign one that says no extradition to the US or no onward extradition from Sweden but which also calls for him to answer any rape/ sexual violence charges because that currently seems to me the only possible basis currently on which we both oppose imperialism and neo liberalism *and* at the same time pay proper attention to solidarity with the victims of sexual violence.The two parts go together - simply calling for him to answer the Swedish charges, on its own, will not do either because that ignores the context of the objective anti imperialist outcome of the leaks and the desire for revenge of our rulers ( articulated by May when she made the announcement in Parliament..) Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, April 18, 2019, 12:41 pm, AG Forever wrote: ye i know do u sign the petition against extradition? just listened to domscheidt interview, assanges first partner. i am still so angry AGF: sound & curation twitter @poemproducer works : antyegreie.com > On 18 Apr 2019, at 12:29, marc.garrett via NetBehaviour > wrote: > > Hi Antye, > > Completely agree - I think it's fair to say that the activist community is > split on this. > > I personally think he should be sent to be trialed in regard to accusations > of rape first. The investigation was dropped by the Swedish police in May > 2017. > > And, yes - unforgivable if he had anything to do in helping Trump get elected > and Brexit. It does not bode well that Farage met him at the Ecuadorian > embassy. > > I'm more concerned for Chelsea Manning -- Assange said that Barack Obama only > granted Clemency to Chelsea Manning, in order to make life hard for Assange. > http://bit.do/ePTYj > > Wishing you well. > > marc > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >> On Tuesday, 16 April 2019 17:16, AGF poemproducer >> wrote: >> >> yes dear Marc, but also apparently some unnecessary leaks like names of gay >> individuals in saudi arabia and steve jobs with HIV, etc I am still >> struggling with wl contribution to brexit and US election >> >> we’ll see >> >>> On 16 Apr 2019, at 17:38, marc.garrett marc.garr...@protonmail.com wrote: >>> Hi Antye, >>> Yes - for it to be dominated by one individual was of course a terrible >>> idea. >>> Looking at the files that remind us how corrupt our governments and the >>> industries are, is not pleasant reading :-( >>> wishing you well. >>> marc >>> maybe wikileaks now becomes again what it used to be > On 16 Apr 2019, at 13:43, marc.garrett via NetBehaviour > netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org wrote: > WikiLeaks Publishes Its List of Files for Download > https://file.wikileaks.org/file/ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org > https://lists.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > ___ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org > https://lists.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org https://lists.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org https://lists.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] WikiLeaks Publishes Its List of Files for Download
Hi Antye, Completely agree - I think it's fair to say that the activist community is split on this. I personally think he should be sent to be trialed in regard to accusations of rape first. The investigation was dropped by the Swedish police in May 2017. And, yes - unforgivable if he had anything to do in helping Trump get elected and Brexit. It does not bode well that Farage met him at the Ecuadorian embassy. I'm more concerned for Chelsea Manning -- Assange said that Barack Obama only granted Clemency to Chelsea Manning, in order to make life hard for Assange. http://bit.do/ePTYj Wishing you well. marc ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, 16 April 2019 17:16, AGF poemproducer wrote: > yes dear Marc, but also apparently some unnecessary leaks like names of gay > individuals in saudi arabia and steve jobs with HIV, etc I am still > struggling with wl contribution to brexit and US election > > we’ll see > > > On 16 Apr 2019, at 17:38, marc.garrett marc.garr...@protonmail.com wrote: > > Hi Antye, > > Yes - for it to be dominated by one individual was of course a terrible > > idea. > > Looking at the files that remind us how corrupt our governments and the > > industries are, is not pleasant reading :-( > > wishing you well. > > marc > > > > > maybe wikileaks now becomes again what it used to be > > > > > > > On 16 Apr 2019, at 13:43, marc.garrett via NetBehaviour > > > > netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org wrote: > > > > WikiLeaks Publishes Its List of Files for Download > > > > https://file.wikileaks.org/file/ > > > > NetBehaviour mailing list > > > > NetBehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org > > > > https://lists.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org https://lists.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] WikiLeaks Publishes Its List of Files for Download
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