Re: [NetBehaviour] Human body parts donation

2011-05-11 Thread Andreas Maria Jacobs
Remember C'Mell?

The genitically engineering female catwoman who after years of  
underground and armed struggle finally succeeded in establishing equal  
rights for humans and genitical engineered living beings. First with  
the C-Series (derived from cats and predominantly used as cheap slave  
labor in the building industry because of there lack of fear at  
heights. Slowly after her succes all - D (Dog), M (Monkey), H ( Horse)  
series etc etc - gained equal right [*]

[*]: Recalled from memorie after a short story by the late and great  
JG Ballard

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On May 12, 2011, at 8:38, helen varley jamieson  wrote:

> this is culturally normal in some parts of the world :)
>> Wouldn't it be weird to hold a funeral for your amputated leg!?
>>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Human body parts donation

2011-05-11 Thread helen varley jamieson
this is culturally normal in some parts of the world :)
> Wouldn't it be weird to hold a funeral for your amputated leg!?
>
>

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Human body parts donation

2011-05-11 Thread martin mitchell
Or an extracted tooth.

m.

On 12 May 2011, at 00:02, James Morris wrote:

> On 11 May 2011 23:59, helen varley jamieson  
> wrote:
>> he should have had the amputation done in new zealand, or the pacific
>> islands; he would have been given his limb without problem. surgically
>> removed body parts absolutely belong to the original body. (i have my
>> femeral head in a box somewhere in storage ...)
> 
> Wouldn't it be weird to hold a funeral for your amputated leg!?
> 
> 
> 
>> h : )
>> 
>> On 11/05/11 5:44 PM, James Wallbank wrote:
>>> Hi Heath,
>>> 
>>> In the UK I understand that people do not own their own body parts, and
>>> so may not be in a position to offer you parts for your project. Your
>>> new body may have to come from citizens of more liberal regimes.
>>> 
>>> I had an acquaintance whose heavily tattooed lower leg had to be
>>> amputated after an extended failure to recover from an accident. Before
>>> the operation he requested the leg, so he could have it embalmed as a
>>> curio. The surgeons refused, and he took legal advice. He was unable to
>>> compel the hospital to yield it up, even to a qualified embalmer.
>>> 
>>> In our genetically modified future, of course, human(oid)s may not own
>>> their bodies in even more pressing terms - their cellular structures may
>>> be the property of the corporation that engineered their genome. They'll
>>> be able to work off the debt incurred by being born in just a few
>>> decades, at which point they'll be able to live the remainder of their
>>> lives as free agents, able to do what they will with their remaining years.
>>> 
>>> All the best,
>>> 
>>> James
>>> =
>>> 
>>> On 11/05/11 15:11, info wrote:
 I have been working on building new lawful identities (data bodies) for
 some time now:
 
 http: //status.irational.org/identity_for_sale/
 http: //status.irational.org/
 
 Recently, I have made a new identity, but am seeking a physical body to
 bind to. I suspect this body will need to be made of parts.
 
 Would you be interested in passing legal ownership
 of one (or more) of your body parts to this new identity
 for physical delivery after your death or even during your life ?
 
 I can offer expenses, but not a fee.
 
 Thank you for your consideration.
 
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Human body parts donation

2011-05-11 Thread James Morris
On 11 May 2011 23:59, helen varley jamieson  wrote:
> he should have had the amputation done in new zealand, or the pacific
> islands; he would have been given his limb without problem. surgically
> removed body parts absolutely belong to the original body. (i have my
> femeral head in a box somewhere in storage ...)

Wouldn't it be weird to hold a funeral for your amputated leg!?



> h : )
>
> On 11/05/11 5:44 PM, James Wallbank wrote:
>> Hi Heath,
>>
>> In the UK I understand that people do not own their own body parts, and
>> so may not be in a position to offer you parts for your project. Your
>> new body may have to come from citizens of more liberal regimes.
>>
>> I had an acquaintance whose heavily tattooed lower leg had to be
>> amputated after an extended failure to recover from an accident. Before
>> the operation he requested the leg, so he could have it embalmed as a
>> curio. The surgeons refused, and he took legal advice. He was unable to
>> compel the hospital to yield it up, even to a qualified embalmer.
>>
>> In our genetically modified future, of course, human(oid)s may not own
>> their bodies in even more pressing terms - their cellular structures may
>> be the property of the corporation that engineered their genome. They'll
>> be able to work off the debt incurred by being born in just a few
>> decades, at which point they'll be able to live the remainder of their
>> lives as free agents, able to do what they will with their remaining years.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> James
>> =
>>
>> On 11/05/11 15:11, info wrote:
>>> I have been working on building new lawful identities (data bodies) for
>>> some time now:
>>>
>>> http: //status.irational.org/identity_for_sale/
>>> http: //status.irational.org/
>>>
>>> Recently, I have made a new identity, but am seeking a physical body to
>>> bind to. I suspect this body will need to be made of parts.
>>>
>>> Would you be interested in passing legal ownership
>>> of one (or more) of your body parts to this new identity
>>> for physical delivery after your death or even during your life ?
>>>
>>> I can offer expenses, but not a fee.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your consideration.
>>>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Human body parts donation

2011-05-11 Thread helen varley jamieson
he should have had the amputation done in new zealand, or the pacific 
islands; he would have been given his limb without problem. surgically 
removed body parts absolutely belong to the original body. (i have my 
femeral head in a box somewhere in storage ...)

h : )

On 11/05/11 5:44 PM, James Wallbank wrote:
> Hi Heath,
>
> In the UK I understand that people do not own their own body parts, and
> so may not be in a position to offer you parts for your project. Your
> new body may have to come from citizens of more liberal regimes.
>
> I had an acquaintance whose heavily tattooed lower leg had to be
> amputated after an extended failure to recover from an accident. Before
> the operation he requested the leg, so he could have it embalmed as a
> curio. The surgeons refused, and he took legal advice. He was unable to
> compel the hospital to yield it up, even to a qualified embalmer.
>
> In our genetically modified future, of course, human(oid)s may not own
> their bodies in even more pressing terms - their cellular structures may
> be the property of the corporation that engineered their genome. They'll
> be able to work off the debt incurred by being born in just a few
> decades, at which point they'll be able to live the remainder of their
> lives as free agents, able to do what they will with their remaining years.
>
> All the best,
>
> James
> =
>
> On 11/05/11 15:11, info wrote:
>> I have been working on building new lawful identities (data bodies) for
>> some time now:
>>
>> http: //status.irational.org/identity_for_sale/
>> http: //status.irational.org/
>>
>> Recently, I have made a new identity, but am seeking a physical body to
>> bind to. I suspect this body will need to be made of parts.
>>
>> Would you be interested in passing legal ownership
>> of one (or more) of your body parts to this new identity
>> for physical delivery after your death or even during your life ?
>>
>> I can offer expenses, but not a fee.
>>
>> Thank you for your consideration.
>>
>> Heath Bunting
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Re: [NetBehaviour] free Ai Weiwei

2011-05-11 Thread James Morris
http://youtu.be/iH6-qBRv5LM


On 11 May 2011 22:51, Rob Myers  wrote:
> On 11/05/11 22:29, Andreas Maria Jacobs wrote:
>> Let's dance!!!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4d7Wp9kKjA
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Re: [NetBehaviour] free Ai Weiwei

2011-05-11 Thread Rob Myers
On 11/05/11 22:29, Andreas Maria Jacobs wrote:
> Let's dance!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4d7Wp9kKjA

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Re: [NetBehaviour] free Ai Weiwei

2011-05-11 Thread Andreas Maria Jacobs
Terrorism | 10.05.2011
Pakistan may extradite bin Laden's wives to US

PM Gilani's address to parliament failed to answer many questions
Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: PM Gilani's address to
parliament failed to answer many questions
Pakistan's likely decision to allow US officials to interrogate three of
Osama bin Laden's wives, who are currently detained, might help somewhat
to stabilize the strained relations between the two countries.


Now I get it!

China government is shooting at their piano-player!!

Free Ai Weiwei!!!, Let's cry!!! Free Jack Vance!, Let's dance!!! Free them
all!, Let's have some L.O.L.



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On Wed, May 11, 2011 22:55, Rob Myers wrote:
> On 11/05/11 21:32, Andreas Maria Jacobs wrote:
>> I dance for Osama bin Laden's young lover,
>> the ultimate victim of our oh so supreme western judo-liberal way of
>> thinking, outdated within a couple of years.
>>
>> You will eat dogs afterwards!
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> I'm really enjoying this performance.
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Re: [NetBehaviour] free Ai Weiwei

2011-05-11 Thread Simon Biggs
You might be hooked on computer games. I haven't played them much and not at
all for 20 years.

Best

Simon


On 11/05/2011 17:23, "Andreas Maria Jacobs"  wrote:

> It is of no use to fight the emperor
> 
> You will loose, stupid you
> 
> We all analyzed the position of the cultural economical power games,
> that's why we are hooked on computergames in the first place, but to
> express a 'personal' anger instead of an critical and observative
> attitude, people gather in the streets to be shotted by snipers
> 
> Likewise language users snipe and shoot with their own ammunituon i.e.
> words
> 
> "I come unarmed
> I come in Peace"
> 
> Andreas Maria Jacobs
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> On May 11, 2011, at 17:40, Michael Szpakowski  wrote:
> 
>> > traditional chinese cultural values, smashing
>> age old artifacts to barrels to express his
>> conceptual megamalomaniac  - Andy Warhol like - attitude.
>> 
>> It is not strange that he will be in a conflictual situation>
>> 
>> Ah yes! now I understand! -that is why the Chinese government has
>> detained him without trial or charge for a month and is rumored to
>> be torturing him...
>> Thank you for explaining...
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[NetBehaviour] Links

2011-05-11 Thread Rob Myers
"Ten Years From Now, Facebook Will Be Your Bank":

http://www.disinfo.com/2011/05/ten-years-from-now-facebook-will-be-your-bank/


"Beyond idealism: university-level training in free technology":

http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/beyond-idealism-university-level-training-in-free-technology/2011/05/11


"Blue Brain Project: Build a virtual brain in a supercomputer":

http://www.boingboing.net/2011/05/11/blue-brain-project-b.html?


"What are the key data categories companies want to control?":

http://radar.oreilly.com/2011/05/web2-summit-data-frame-map.html


"There's No "Meaningful Distinction" Between Second Life & FarmVille":

http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2011/05/second-life-no-different-from-farmville.html


"Man vs. Box":

http://coilhouse.net/2011/05/man-vs-box/



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Re: [NetBehaviour] free Ai Weiwei

2011-05-11 Thread Rob Myers
On 11/05/11 21:32, Andreas Maria Jacobs wrote:
> I dance for Osama bin Laden's young lover,
> the ultimate victim of our oh so supreme western judo-liberal way of
> thinking, outdated within a couple of years.
> 
> You will eat dogs afterwards!

I'm really enjoying this performance.

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[NetBehaviour] [Review by Arelis Eleftherios: Alexander Psychoulis & Dimitris Tataris]

2011-05-11 Thread Andreas Maria Jacobs
Friday May 14, 2011

Review by Arelis Eleftherios

Alexander Psychoulis & Dimitris Tataris

::: More ::

http://nictoglobe.com/new/query2.html?d=contributors/arelis&f=ALEXANDER%20PSYCHOULIS

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Re: [NetBehaviour] free Ai Weiwei

2011-05-11 Thread Andreas Maria Jacobs
I dance for Osama bin Laden's young lover,
the ultimate victim of our oh so supreme western judo-liberal way of
thinking, outdated within a couple of years.

You will eat dogs afterwards!

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On Wed, May 11, 2011 22:17, martin mitchell wrote:
> for Ai Weiwei.
>
> m.
>
> On 11 May 2011, at 21:01, jwm.art@gmail.com wrote:
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>> Excuse me while I pole dance!
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Re: [NetBehaviour] free Ai Weiwei

2011-05-11 Thread Andreas Maria Jacobs
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On Wed, May 11, 2011 22:16, martin mitchell wrote:
> ?
>
> m.
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>> At least two self righteous judgements!
>> Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange
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Re: [NetBehaviour] free Ai Weiwei

2011-05-11 Thread martin mitchell
for Ai Weiwei.

m.

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> Excuse me while I pole dance!
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Re: [NetBehaviour] free Ai Weiwei

2011-05-11 Thread martin mitchell
?

m.
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Re: [NetBehaviour] free Ai Weiwei

2011-05-11 Thread jwm . art . net
Excuse me while I pole dance!

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Re: [NetBehaviour] free Ai Weiwei

2011-05-11 Thread jwm . art . net
At least two self righteous judgements!
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Re: [NetBehaviour] 11

2011-05-11 Thread Rob Myers
On 05/11/2011 06:17 PM, manik wrote:
> ...MANIK...MAY...2011...

I love the rich, overloaded, polysemic imagery of this series, the 
fantasies (and fears) of masculine and nationalist and media power (and 
more) combined into a critical aesthetic.

Also I wish I could use magic markers like that. :-)

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Re: [NetBehaviour] 13

2011-05-11 Thread Simon Mclennan

These are great!
Simon
On 11 May 2011, at 18:22, manik wrote:




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[NetBehaviour] Call for Participation: Nuclear Anxiety at the Live Performers Meeting in Rome (and then Minsk)

2011-05-11 Thread xDxD.vs.xDxD
 *Nuclear Anxiety will be at the LPM, the Live Performers Meeting, in Rome *

 (and then performed again at the edition in Minsk later on in this year).



http://www.artisopensource.net/2011/05/11/nuclear-anxiety-at-the-live-performers-meeting/


*From May 19th to May 22nd in the Sensible Data section of the Live
Performers meeting.*


 Address:

Nuovo Cinema L'Aquila

via L'Aquila 68

Rome, Italy


The Final performance in Rome will be held on *May 22nd at 9pm*.

Nuclear Anxiety is a global performance giving a voice to the planetary
discussion on nuclear energy.

People worldwide have been discussing about nuclear energy using social
networks and the Nuclear Anxiety global performance has been created to
narrate the story of this ubiquitous discussion.
Fear, doubts, ideas, hopes, wishes of people worldwide, across countries and
cultures feel the need to understand the planet's energetic future.

*Nuclear Anxiety will be LPM's Sensible Data section final performance.*

*Everyone is invited to join: use the #nuclearanxiety hashtag on Twitter to
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*All the contributions will form the content of the performance and you will
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website.*

Please participate to this global discussion on the energetic future of the
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Nuclear Anxiety was born on artsblog.it right after the Fukushima disaster
in Japan, when penelope.di.pixel launched a call for action on the dangers
brought on by nuclear energy. AOS, Art is Open Source answered by producing
NuclearAnxiety, at the address:

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Here a realtime map shows the live discussions on social networks about
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[NetBehaviour] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2011-05-11 Thread Seth Guy via LinkedIn
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- Seth

Accept invitation from Seth Guy
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Why might connecting with Seth Guy be a good idea?

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Re: [NetBehaviour] free Ai Weiwei

2011-05-11 Thread Andreas Maria Jacobs
To make possible a future crackdown.

Beware of the Chines invasion, first they send their victims then they  
will come themselves!

"Just expressing my artistic "freedom""

Andreas Maria Jacobs

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On May 11, 2011, at 18:32, Rob Myers  wrote:

> On 11/05/11 17:23, Andreas Maria Jacobs wrote:
>> It is of no use to fight the emperor
>
> But what use is it to support them?
>
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Re: [NetBehaviour] free Ai Weiwei

2011-05-11 Thread martin mitchell
A sad, lonely and confused rant ..

martin.

On 11 May 2011, at 17:23, Andreas Maria Jacobs wrote:

> It is of no use to fight the emperor
> 
> You will loose, stupid you
> 
> We all analyzed the position of the cultural economical power games, that's 
> why we are hooked on computergames in the first place, but to express a 
> 'personal' anger instead of an critical and observative attitude, people 
> gather in the streets to be shotted by snipers
> 
> Likewise language users snipe and shoot with their own ammunituon i.e. words
> 
> "I come unarmed
> I come in Peace"
> 
> Andreas Maria Jacobs
> 
> w: http://www.nictoglobe.com
> w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl
> 
> On May 11, 2011, at 17:40, Michael Szpakowski  wrote:
> 
>> > traditional chinese cultural values, smashing
>> age old artifacts to barrels to express his
>> conceptual megamalomaniac  - Andy Warhol like - attitude. 
>> 
>> It is not strange that he will be in a conflictual situation>
>>  
>> Ah yes! now I understand! -that is why the Chinese government has detained 
>> him without trial or charge for a month and is rumored to be torturing him...
>> Thank you for explaining...
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[NetBehaviour] Do not mesh with Kayzer

2011-05-11 Thread Andreas Maria Jacobs
Do not mesh with Kayzer
Do not fool the Pope

Do not mock the Rebbe
Do not spit on Hope

Do not break his beaker
Do not jump his Back

Forever bite the Dust
Forever risk your Neck



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Re: [NetBehaviour] free Ai Weiwei

2011-05-11 Thread Rob Myers
On 11/05/11 17:23, Andreas Maria Jacobs wrote:
> It is of no use to fight the emperor

But what use is it to support them?

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Re: [NetBehaviour] free Ai Weiwei

2011-05-11 Thread Andreas Maria Jacobs

It is of no use to fight the emperor

You will loose, stupid you

We all analyzed the position of the cultural economical power games,  
that's why we are hooked on computergames in the first place, but to  
express a 'personal' anger instead of an critical and observative  
attitude, people gather in the streets to be shotted by snipers


Likewise language users snipe and shoot with their own ammunituon i.e.  
words


"I come unarmed
I come in Peace"

Andreas Maria Jacobs

w: http://www.nictoglobe.com
w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl

On May 11, 2011, at 17:40, Michael Szpakowski  wrote:




Ah yes! now I understand! -that is why the Chinese government has  
detained him without trial or charge for a month and is rumored to  
be torturing him...

Thank you for explaining...
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Re: [NetBehaviour] free Ai Weiwei

2011-05-11 Thread Simon Biggs
I'm not sure we are in the position to judge AWW from here. As for
disrespect - I have a disrespect for the English aristocracy and all it
stands for and would be very happy to see all their palaces burn to the
ground and see them hanging from the lamp posts along the Mall. I support
what the student demonstrators did in Regent Street and elsewhere and think
it wrong they are being pursued by the Police and taken through the courts.
They were heroically silly, at worst.

However, at least their treatment is carried out in the public eye and
through legal routes. Nobody has been made to disappear. The way the Chinese
authorities operate is totally beyond the pale. No matter what you have done
(and I don't think AWW has done anything that bad) no authority can make you
disappear. That's what the paramilitaries did in Argentina and Chile. Having
friends who went through those times in those places I know they would not
tolerate such actions. I don't think China wants to be equated with that.

I think we, and our elected representatives (for what they are worth),
should be making it extremely clear to the Chinese that they cannot treat
people like that anymore. If they do then they will not gain the respect
they otherwise likely deserve and will be treated as pariahs. There
wonderful history will then be worth shit - which is the point I think AWW
was trying to make.

Best

Simon


On 11/05/2011 16:29, "martin mitchell"  wrote:

> What about the issue of human rights and freedom of expression?
> 
> martin.
> 
> On 11 May 2011, at 15:28, Andreas Maria Jacobs wrote:
> 
>> I cannot afford to waste my energy to get involved in
>> a power political game i.e. AW vs. China government
>> 
>> i think both sides are to blame and I think
>> it is a bit naive to fight for either of them
>> 
>> Ai Weiwei showed a grave disrespect for the
>> traditional chinese cultural values, smashing
>> age old artifacts to barrels to express his
>> conceptual megamalomaniac  - Andy Warhol like - attitude.
>> 
>> It is not strange that he will be in a conflictual situation
>> 
>> And... he is NOT a victim!!!
>> 
>> He is at best a selfchosen chinese multimilloniaire
>> who cleverly used the Western attention for
>> his extremistic and insane scaled 'artworks' to become
>> a well sought and extremely well paid, super
>> commercial 'artdealer', exploiting the rich chinese
>> culture for his own - and western artdealers - sake
>> 
>> Let's say he got what he deserved, do not be fooled
>> by the media hypes!
>> 
>> Andreas Maria Jacobs
>> 
>> w: http://www.nictoglobe.com
>> w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl
>> 
>> On May 11, 2011, at 15:54, Michael Szpakowski  wrote:
>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> I made a 'free Ai Weiwei' banner. I put it on my site and linked it to
>>>  
>>> http://www.freeaiweiwei.org/
>>>  
>>> There's a larger image, too, here:
>>>  
>>> http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/freeAiWeiwei/
>>>  
>>> Please feel free to use it, remix it or make your own.
>>>  
>>> cheers
>>> michael
>>>  
>>>  
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Human body parts donation

2011-05-11 Thread James Wallbank
Hi Heath,

In the UK I understand that people do not own their own body parts, and 
so may not be in a position to offer you parts for your project. Your 
new body may have to come from citizens of more liberal regimes.

I had an acquaintance whose heavily tattooed lower leg had to be 
amputated after an extended failure to recover from an accident. Before 
the operation he requested the leg, so he could have it embalmed as a 
curio. The surgeons refused, and he took legal advice. He was unable to 
compel the hospital to yield it up, even to a qualified embalmer.

In our genetically modified future, of course, human(oid)s may not own 
their bodies in even more pressing terms - their cellular structures may 
be the property of the corporation that engineered their genome. They'll 
be able to work off the debt incurred by being born in just a few 
decades, at which point they'll be able to live the remainder of their 
lives as free agents, able to do what they will with their remaining years.

All the best,

James
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> I have been working on building new lawful identities (data bodies) for
> some time now:
>
> http: //status.irational.org/identity_for_sale/
> http: //status.irational.org/
>
> Recently, I have made a new identity, but am seeking a physical body to
> bind to. I suspect this body will need to be made of parts.
>
> Would you be interested in passing legal ownership
> of one (or more) of your body parts to this new identity
> for physical delivery after your death or even during your life ?
>
> I can offer expenses, but not a fee.
>
> Thank you for your consideration.
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Re: [NetBehaviour] free Ai Weiwei

2011-05-11 Thread Michael Szpakowski

 
Ah yes! now I understand! -that is why the Chinese government has detained him 
without trial or charge for a month and is rumored to be torturing him...
Thank you for explaining...
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Re: [NetBehaviour] free Ai Weiwei

2011-05-11 Thread martin mitchell
What about the issue of human rights and freedom of expression?

martin.

On 11 May 2011, at 15:28, Andreas Maria Jacobs wrote:

> I cannot afford to waste my energy to get involved in
> a power political game i.e. AW vs. China government
> 
> i think both sides are to blame and I think 
> it is a bit naive to fight for either of them
> 
> Ai Weiwei showed a grave disrespect for the 
> traditional chinese cultural values, smashing
> age old artifacts to barrels to express his
> conceptual megamalomaniac  - Andy Warhol like - attitude. 
> 
> It is not strange that he will be in a conflictual situation
> 
> And... he is NOT a victim!!!
> 
> He is at best a selfchosen chinese multimilloniaire
> who cleverly used the Western attention for 
> his extremistic and insane scaled 'artworks' to become
> a well sought and extremely well paid, super
> commercial 'artdealer', exploiting the rich chinese
> culture for his own - and western artdealers - sake 
> 
> Let's say he got what he deserved, do not be fooled 
> by the media hypes! 
> 
> Andreas Maria Jacobs
> 
> w: http://www.nictoglobe.com
> w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl
> 
> On May 11, 2011, at 15:54, Michael Szpakowski  wrote:
> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi
>> I made a 'free Ai Weiwei' banner. I put it on my site and linked it to
>>  
>> http://www.freeaiweiwei.org/
>>  
>> There's a larger image, too, here:
>>  
>> http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/freeAiWeiwei/
>>  
>> Please feel free to use it, remix it or make your own.
>>  
>> cheers
>> michael
>>  
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Free the wives of Osama bin Laden!!

2011-05-11 Thread Rob Myers
On 11/05/11 15:41, Andreas Maria Jacobs wrote:
> 
> Let's live our own lives instead of wasting our energy to nonsensical  
> issues completely out of our control

Most of our lives consist of nonsensical issues completely out of our
control.

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[NetBehaviour] Free the wives of Osama bin Laden!!

2011-05-11 Thread Andreas Maria Jacobs
Let's start a petition

Let's occupy America!!!

Let's occupy China!!!

Let's occupy Tate Modern!!

Let's disgrace Andy

Let's forget about it all

Let's live our own lives instead of wasting our energy to nonsensical  
issues completely out of our control


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Re: [NetBehaviour] free Ai Weiwei

2011-05-11 Thread Andreas Maria Jacobs

I cannot afford to waste my energy to get involved in
a power political game i.e. AW vs. China government

i think both sides are to blame and I think
it is a bit naive to fight for either of them

Ai Weiwei showed a grave disrespect for the
traditional chinese cultural values, smashing
age old artifacts to barrels to express his
conceptual megamalomaniac  - Andy Warhol like - attitude.

It is not strange that he will be in a conflictual situation

And... he is NOT a victim!!!

He is at best a selfchosen chinese multimilloniaire
who cleverly used the Western attention for
his extremistic and insane scaled 'artworks' to become
a well sought and extremely well paid, super
commercial 'artdealer', exploiting the rich chinese
culture for his own - and western artdealers - sake

Let's say he got what he deserved, do not be fooled
by the media hypes!

Andreas Maria Jacobs

w: http://www.nictoglobe.com
w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl

On May 11, 2011, at 15:54, Michael Szpakowski  wrote:




Hi
I made a 'free Ai Weiwei' banner. I put it on my site and linked it to

http://www.freeaiweiwei.org/

There's a larger image, too, here:

http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/freeAiWeiwei/

Please feel free to use it, remix it or make your own.

cheers
michael


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Re: [NetBehaviour] Human body parts donation

2011-05-11 Thread Rob Myers
On 11/05/11 15:11, info wrote:
> 
> Would you be interested in passing legal ownership
> of one (or more) of your body parts to this new identity
> for physical delivery after your death or even during your life ?

A friend of mine is signing up for this. :-) / :-O

- Rob.



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[NetBehaviour] Human body parts donation

2011-05-11 Thread info
I have been working on building new lawful identities (data bodies) for 
some time now:

http: //status.irational.org/identity_for_sale/
http: //status.irational.org/

Recently, I have made a new identity, but am seeking a physical body to 
bind to. I suspect this body will need to be made of parts.

Would you be interested in passing legal ownership
of one (or more) of your body parts to this new identity
for physical delivery after your death or even during your life ?

I can offer expenses, but not a fee.

Thank you for your consideration.

Heath Bunting
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[NetBehaviour] free Ai Weiwei

2011-05-11 Thread Michael Szpakowski
 

Hi
I made a 'free Ai Weiwei' banner. I put it on my site and linked it to 
 
http://www.freeaiweiwei.org/
 
There's a larger image, too, here:
 
http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/freeAiWeiwei/
 
Please feel free to use it, remix it or make your own.
 
cheers
michael
 
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[NetBehaviour] Probe 05#11 Finnegans Wake

2011-05-11 Thread emmanuel guez
For 36 hours, 25 minutes and 41 seconds (the time it takes a machine to 
realize the same performance), to the rhythm of the Carthusian monks, 
ten students of different nationalities will take turns to read aloud 
the entire text of "Finnegans Wake" by James Joyce !

This exceptional reading experience, broadcast in live stream, will be 
the occasion of many public meetings to be held at the Chartreuse's CNES 
(Villeneuve lez Avignon, France), with Net.artists, researchers, 
choregraphers, stage directors, performers and translators. The 
countdown has begun...

Here is the programme : http://sondes.chartreuse.org (in fr.)

Best
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[NetBehaviour] Current: Digtial Art debate

2011-05-11 Thread Steph Fletcher
Apologies for any cross-postings...

I hope some of you will like to join us for a day of debate about how digital 
art can be collected, and the future of the field; with the aim to produce a 
manifesto of action points to strengthen the perception and position of digital 
art. Details below..

best wishes,
Steph



Current: An Experiment in Collecting Digital Art
www.current-experiment.org.uk

The 'Current' Experiment involves an exhibition, acquisition and debate, acting 
as a practical case study for the collection of digital art into museums and 
galleries.

Having selected an artwork by Thomson & Craighead for acquisition, we will be 
hosting an event to discuss the issues and challenges that arise from the 
project on: 24th May 2011, at University of Central Lancashire, Preston. 
Through the debate we aim to challenge the current climate of collecting new 
media, and the fact that very few museums are collecting and exhibiting artists 
that work with this art form.
The half day morning event will discuss the background, short-listing and 
acquisitions processes, and the realisation and installation of the exhibition 
- along with our findings from the experiment. 
The optional afternoon session is aimed mainly at sector professionals; to 
debate the role of digital art with in the wider visual arts sector, and the 
roles both the museum and education sector can play in this.
This debate will be developed with experts from CRUMB (Curatorial Resource for 
Upstart Media Bliss – University of Sunderland); and chaired by Sarah Cook - 
Co-editor of Crumb and Research Fellow at the University.
Tickets are £10 with a limited number of free places for UCLan students.
Those interested in purchasing a ticket for this event should contact Project 
Co-Ordinator Steph Fletcher in the first instance: steph.fletc...@folly.co.uk.

For more information, visit: http://www.current-experiment.org.uk/debate

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Steph Fletcher
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'Current' and 'Podcamp' projects
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Re: [NetBehaviour] 7

2011-05-11 Thread wendy keenan
grim gives me a rash made invisible here:
http://collativelearning.com/big%20lebowski%20analysis.html

wendy
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