Re: NetBSD 10 Beta: Updating The Base System
Em ter, 2023-10-10 às 11:24 -0500, Jay F. Shachter escreveu: > Centuries ago, Nostradamus predicted that Michael van Elst would write on Thu > Sep 28 17:00:48 2023: > > > > > netbsd-10 got a second flag day, first when updating openssl, second > > when bumping versions of dependent libraries. > > > > The packages are being rebuilt and you should also update the base > > system. > > > > Please forgive my ignorance; how do I update my NetBSD 10 Beta system? > And does my PKG_PATH variable remain > http://ftp.NetBSD.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/amd64/10.0/All or > do I now change it to something else? Thank you in advance for any > and all replies. > > Jay F. Shachter > 6424 North Whipple Street > Chicago IL 60645-4111 > (1-773)7613784 landline > (1-410)9964737 GoogleVoice > http://m5.chicago.il.us > j...@m5.chicago.il.us > > "But when she traced the killer's IP address ... it was in the > 192.168/16 block!" > or you can update from my distribution... export PKG_PATH=http://netbsd.k1.com.br/NetBSD-x86_64-10.0/packages the X server used is modular-xorg it is built around the mate-desktop in my desktop it runs zfs... but for sure run ufs too.. there are about 1632 packages...from pkgsrc-2023Q2 that is about all you need to really use NetBSD... it is wise to delete all pkgs => pkg_delete -f '*' reboot, than install new packages => pkg_add -Uv mate-lzt edit /etc/rc.conf according... and reboot in /etc/rc.conf choose hostname & domainname flushroutes=NO smartd=YES sshd=YES ntpd=YES dbus=YES hal=YES gdm=YES xdm=NO ypbind=YES devpubd=YES lockd=YES statd=YES estd=YES rpcbind=YES pulseaudio=YES nfs_client=YES nfs_server=NO mountd=NO saslauthd=YES mixerctl=YES hostname="xx" domainname="" zfs="YES" wscons="YES" dhcpcd="YES" savecore=NO
Re: How to get some needed binaries for vintage NetBSD 1.5.3 installation (to prepare a system update to NetBSD 9.3)
Yeah. disklabel and newfs are the tools you are supposed to use. Still the case even on 9.3. fdisk and so on are additional tools needed for x86 (and some other) platforms. They are not relevant on VAX. You don't have PC style disk partitioning on a VAX. Johnny On 2023-10-10 20:46, David Brownlee wrote: On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 at 05:58, Dennis wrote: I am trying to update a MicroVAX 3100, running an old NetBSD 1.5.3. Idea was to add NetBSD 9.3 on another disk. So I attached an additional hard drive to the machine and wanted to partition that disk and create filesystems on it. On one partition I wanted to put the NetBSD installation and boot from that drive then. My problem now is, on that 1.5.3 installation, there is no fdisk, no mkfs, no bsdlabel. I checked the installations tgz files located here https://archive.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-archive/NetBSD-1.5.3/vax/binary/sets/, but these also do not contain these tools. But they are required to create the partitions and file systems I want to use for installation. From where can I get these files to continue my installation of NetBSD 9.3 ? I am restricted in my options for the installation, I have harddisk, cdrom and maybe floppy(not tested). With cdrom I've already failed, because MicroVAX console boot loader seems to have problems with either the drive or the ISO image containing NetBSD 9.3 I've used (ISO was downloaded from https://ftp.fau.de/netbsd/NetBSD-9.3/iso/NetBSD-9.3-vax.iso ) So my question is, from where can I get or compile 1.5.3 versions of fdisk and mkfs. I saw there is newfs, which may replace mkfs. But fdisk still seems missing. I saw also in doc a tool required named bsdlabel, but there is a tools called disklabel, which may be an older version of bsdlabel... Or is there an easier way to do it? Any help welcome gcc is present on the 1.5.3 installation, so I may be able to compile from sources, but I am NetBSD starter and do not even know where the source would come from. The tool pkgsrc is also not present on the 1.5.3 installation. (I am a NetBSD beginner. But using Linux for +30 years, so both newbie and old rabbit). (I believe other replies may have already directed you towards disklabel and newfs) Another option could be to download the miniroot, then use swapctl to disable the existing swap partition (or just reboot into single user), dd the miniroot to the swap partition and boot from it. Also, NetBSD is just in the process of updating gcc for the upcoming netbsd-10 release with a bunch of very useful fixes (many thanks to Kalvis), and the images at https://nyftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-10/latest/ should be showing up shortly (likely tomorrow) with the fixed gcc version Finally, have cc'ed in port-vax@ as there are likely to be any number of people more interested in any VAXness relating to the questions :-p David -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: b...@softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Re: NetBSD 10 Beta: Updating The Base System
On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 11:24:15AM -0500, Jay F. Shachter wrote: > Please forgive my ignorance; how do I update my NetBSD 10 Beta system? You can run sysinst to fetch sets from http://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-10/latest/amd64/ or download the sets and unpack them manually. There is also the sysupgrade tool in pkgsrc, but I never have used it. > And does my PKG_PATH variable remain > http://ftp.NetBSD.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/amd64/10.0/All or > do I now change it to something else? Thank you in advance for any > and all replies. The path stays the same. Greetings, -- Michael van Elst Internet: mlel...@serpens.de "A potential Snark may lurk in every tree."
Re: NetBSD 9.3 amd64 Intel Nuc 8i7BEH xorg problem (solved)
Hi On 10/8/23 01:41, RVP wrote: On Sat, 7 Oct 2023, Ramiro Aceves wrote: Just to be sure before breaking everyting ;-), is this right procedure to upgrade as The NetBSD Guide says? "When upgrading between major releases (e.g. between NetBSD 8.2 and 9.2), take care to first upgrade the kernel and modules: # sysupgrade fetch https://cdn.NetBSD.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-9.2/amd64 # sysupgrade kernel # sysupgrade modules # reboot # sysupgrade sets # sysupgrade etcupdate # sysupgrade postinstall # sysupgrade clean # reboot " Yes, that's the correct procedure, but, I've never tried an update like that using `sysupgrade'--I generally do a fresh install from scratch. And, unless you're fine with compiling your applications from source, I would hold off on the upgrade until the binary packages for 10.x arrive: https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/amd64/ but changing the URL to this?: http://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-10/latest/ Thank so much. sorry, this one: http://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-10/202310051300Z/amd64/ Use the URL with `latest' in it. -RVP Hello RVP Thanks for answering. Before you answered I could not wait and was so excited that I did a sysupgrade to NetBSD 10.0_BETA and I can say It has been a very good learning experience. Only the sysupgrade etcupdate was a bit boring but It went ok. Now I can use the modesetting driver in Xorg and everything is smooth watching videos. I did not realize that there were no precompiled packages ;-) I have been compiling XFCE, Firefox, Libreoffice. VLC, Vim, etca bit slow and boring but not problem. This is an experimental system just to learn the OS and practice. Many thanks for all. I will continue learning. Regards. Ramiro.
Re: How to get some needed binaries for vintage NetBSD 1.5.3 installation (to prepare a system update to NetBSD 9.3)
On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 at 05:58, Dennis wrote: > > I am trying to update a MicroVAX 3100, running an old NetBSD 1.5.3. Idea was > to add NetBSD 9.3 on another disk. > > So I attached an additional hard drive to the machine and wanted to partition > that disk and create filesystems on it. On one partition I wanted to put the > NetBSD installation and boot from that drive then. > > My problem now is, on that 1.5.3 installation, there is no fdisk, no mkfs, no > bsdlabel. I checked the installations tgz files located here > https://archive.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-archive/NetBSD-1.5.3/vax/binary/sets/, > but these also do not contain these tools. But they are required to create > the partitions and file systems I want to use for installation. > > From where can I get these files to continue my installation of NetBSD 9.3 ? > > I am restricted in my options for the installation, I have harddisk, cdrom > and maybe floppy(not tested). With cdrom I've already failed, because > MicroVAX console boot loader seems to have problems with either the drive or > the ISO image containing NetBSD 9.3 I've used (ISO was downloaded from > https://ftp.fau.de/netbsd/NetBSD-9.3/iso/NetBSD-9.3-vax.iso ) > > So my question is, from where can I get or compile 1.5.3 versions of fdisk > and mkfs. I saw there is newfs, which may replace mkfs. But fdisk still seems > missing. I saw also in doc a tool required named bsdlabel, but there is a > tools called disklabel, which may be an older version of bsdlabel... > > Or is there an easier way to do it? Any help welcome > > gcc is present on the 1.5.3 installation, so I may be able to compile from > sources, but I am NetBSD starter and do not even know where the source would > come from. The tool pkgsrc is also not present on the 1.5.3 installation. > > (I am a NetBSD beginner. But using Linux for +30 years, so both newbie and > old rabbit). (I believe other replies may have already directed you towards disklabel and newfs) Another option could be to download the miniroot, then use swapctl to disable the existing swap partition (or just reboot into single user), dd the miniroot to the swap partition and boot from it. Also, NetBSD is just in the process of updating gcc for the upcoming netbsd-10 release with a bunch of very useful fixes (many thanks to Kalvis), and the images at https://nyftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-10/latest/ should be showing up shortly (likely tomorrow) with the fixed gcc version Finally, have cc'ed in port-vax@ as there are likely to be any number of people more interested in any VAXness relating to the questions :-p David
NetBSD 10 Beta: Updating The Base System
Centuries ago, Nostradamus predicted that Michael van Elst would write on Thu Sep 28 17:00:48 2023: > > netbsd-10 got a second flag day, first when updating openssl, second > when bumping versions of dependent libraries. > > The packages are being rebuilt and you should also update the base > system. > Please forgive my ignorance; how do I update my NetBSD 10 Beta system? And does my PKG_PATH variable remain http://ftp.NetBSD.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/amd64/10.0/All or do I now change it to something else? Thank you in advance for any and all replies. Jay F. Shachter 6424 North Whipple Street Chicago IL 60645-4111 (1-773)7613784 landline (1-410)9964737 GoogleVoice http://m5.chicago.il.us j...@m5.chicago.il.us "But when she traced the killer's IP address ... it was in the 192.168/16 block!"
NetBSD 10 Beta: Updating The Base System
Centuries ago, Nostradamus predicted that Michael van Elst would write on Thu Sep 28 17:00:48 2023: > > netbsd-10 got a second flag day, first when updating openssl, second > when bumping versions of dependent libraries. > > The packages are being rebuilt and you should also update the base > system. > Please forgive my ignorance; how do I update my NetBSD 10 Beta system? And does my PKG_PATH variable remain http://ftp.NetBSD.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/amd64/10.0/All or do I now change it to something else? Thank you in advance for any and all replies. Jay F. Shachter 6424 North Whipple Street Chicago IL 60645-4111 (1-773)7613784 landline (1-410)9964737 GoogleVoice http://m5.chicago.il.us j...@m5.chicago.il.us "But when she traced the killer's IP address ... it was in the 192.168/16 block!"
Re: How to get some needed binaries for an old installation (to do a system update to NetBSD 9.3)
On Mon, 9 Oct 2023, Dennis Dingeldein wrote: > I am trying to update a MicroVAX 3100, running an old NetBSD 1.5.3. > > My idea was to add NetBSD 9.3 on another disk. So I attached an additional > hard drive to the machine and wanted to partition that disk and partition it. > > On one partition I wanted to put the NetBSD installation and boot from that > drive then. > > My problem now is, on that 1.5.3 installation, there is no fdisk and no mkfs. > I checked the installations tgz files located here > https://archive.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-archive/NetBSD-1.5.3/vax/binary/sets/, > but these also do not contain mkfs and fdisk. > > From where can I get these files to continue my installation of NetBSD 9.3. ? > > I am very restricted in my options for the installation, I have harddisk, > cdrom and maybe floppy(not tested). With cdrom I've already failed, > > because MicroVAX console boot loader seems to have problems with either the > drive or the ISO image containing NerttBSD 9.3 I've used > > (downloaded from https://ftp.fau.de/netbsd/NetBSD-9.3/iso/NetBSD-9.3-vax.iso ) > > So my question is > > from where can I get 1.5.3 versions of fdisk and mkfs. I saw there is newfs, > which may replace mkfs. But fdisk still seems missing. > > Or is there an easier way to do it? Any help welcome > > (I am a NetBSD new user. But using Linux for +30 years, so both newbie and old > rabbit). > You use "disklabel" (instead of fdisk) and "newfs" (instead of mkfs). regards, chris
Re: How to get some needed binaries for an old installation (to do a system update to NetBSD 9.3)
On Mon, Oct 09, 2023 at 07:09:25PM +0200, Dennis Dingeldein wrote: > My problem now is, on that 1.5.3 installation, there is no fdisk and no > mkfs. I checked the installations tgz files located here > https://archive.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-archive/NetBSD-1.5.3/vax/binary/sets/, > but these also do not contain mkfs and fdisk. You need disklabel, newfs and tar for a manual installation. But probably easier would be to get into the installer somehow. Can you try an ISO image from a newer netbsd-9 build (or even 10.0 BETA)? You can download them from https://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-9/latest/ or https://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-10/latest/ Martin
