Re: kern/57992: urtwn (and athn) driver lost network when WIFI router changes channel

2024-03-08 Thread Ramiro Aceves
El domingo, 3 de marzo de 2024, Michael van Elst 
escribió:
> The following reply was made to PR kern/57992; it has been noted by GNATS

Re: EXT MAIL : Re: USB install is slow

2024-03-08 Thread Martin Husemann
On Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 03:52:15PM +, Derrick Lobo wrote:
> I ended just untaring the sets and running etcupdate as that was much
> quicker

Huh? If that was much quicker (you were running the same kernel, from the
install image?) - where did the upgrade spend all the additional time?
Extracting sets should be the major part, plus a bit of "postinstall" where
it hashes all the (new with -10) SSL certificates (and the script doing so
is suboptimal). Neither should take even close to 10 minutes on amd64 hardware
from the last 10 years or so.

Martin


RE: EXT MAIL : Re: USB install is slow

2024-03-08 Thread Derrick Lobo
Most of the time was spent downloading the tarfile and extracting from the USB 
once the  files are download the install completes quickly


-Original Message-
From: Martin Husemann  
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2024 10:57 AM
To: Derrick Lobo 
Cc: netbsd-users@netbsd.org
Subject: Re: EXT MAIL : Re: USB install is slow

On Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 03:52:15PM +, Derrick Lobo wrote:
> I ended just untaring the sets and running etcupdate as that was much 
> quicker

Huh? If that was much quicker (you were running the same kernel, from the 
install image?) - where did the upgrade spend all the additional time?
Extracting sets should be the major part, plus a bit of "postinstall" where it 
hashes all the (new with -10) SSL certificates (and the script doing so is 
suboptimal). Neither should take even close to 10 minutes on amd64 hardware 
from the last 10 years or so.

Martin


Re: EXT MAIL : Re: USB install is slow

2024-03-08 Thread tlaronde
On Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 04:57:00PM +0100, Martin Husemann wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 03:52:15PM +, Derrick Lobo wrote:
> > I ended just untaring the sets and running etcupdate as that was much
> > quicker
> 
> Huh? If that was much quicker (you were running the same kernel, from the
> install image?) - where did the upgrade spend all the additional time?
> Extracting sets should be the major part, plus a bit of "postinstall" where
> it hashes all the (new with -10) SSL certificates (and the script doing so
> is suboptimal). Neither should take even close to 10 minutes on amd64 hardware
> from the last 10 years or so.

A shot in the dark: there is a problem report on pkgsrc mailing list
linked with tar and extended attributes.

In the 10.* series, extended attributes have been added to libc (man 3
acl).

Furthermore, modifications have been made, concerning extended
attributes, to UFS (with a problem of incompatibility).

Possible culprit: tar and extended attributes (libc, kernel,
filesystem), involving acrobatics costing a lot of time.
-- 
Thierry Laronde 
 http://www.kergis.com/
http://kertex.kergis.com/
Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89  250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C


RE: EXT MAIL : Re: USB install is slow

2024-03-08 Thread Derrick Lobo
Hi Thierry

Manual untar seems fine no issues at all. This seems more like copying the file 
between usb to the local drive as I see stalls when the file is copied over


I am hoping someone can reproduce this issue I have reproduced this on 6 
servers.. most of them supermicros 1 was a lanner device

-Original Message-
From: tlaro...@kergis.com 
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2024 2:43 PM
To: Martin Husemann 
Cc: Derrick Lobo ; netbsd-users@netbsd.org
Subject: Re: EXT MAIL : Re: USB install is slow

On Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 04:57:00PM +0100, Martin Husemann wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 03:52:15PM +, Derrick Lobo wrote:
> > I ended just untaring the sets and running etcupdate as that was
> > much quicker
>
> Huh? If that was much quicker (you were running the same kernel, from
> the install image?) - where did the upgrade spend all the additional time?
> Extracting sets should be the major part, plus a bit of "postinstall"
> where it hashes all the (new with -10) SSL certificates (and the
> script doing so is suboptimal). Neither should take even close to 10
> minutes on amd64 hardware from the last 10 years or so.

A shot in the dark: there is a problem report on pkgsrc mailing list linked 
with tar and extended attributes.

In the 10.* series, extended attributes have been added to libc (man 3 acl).

Furthermore, modifications have been made, concerning extended attributes, to 
UFS (with a problem of incompatibility).

Possible culprit: tar and extended attributes (libc, kernel, filesystem), 
involving acrobatics costing a lot of time.
--
Thierry Laronde 
 http://www.kergis.com/
http://kertex.kergis.com/
Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89  250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C


dmesg error "source can't be determined: dst=x.x.x.x" for aliased address

2024-03-08 Thread Derrick Lobo
Hi All

After upgrading to netbsd10 rc5 I see the following errors on dmesg all the ips 
listed are aliased address on the same device we never got these error as  same 
hardware was upgraded from 8 to 9.3 year/s ago and now to 10 rc5. The Aliased 
ip come through a startup script, they are not aliased on /etc/ifconfig.xxx

dmesg
[ 11871.345173] source can't be determined: dst=192.168.60.189
[ 11873.084999] source can't be determined: dst=192.168.60.194
[ 11895.972879] source can't be determined: dst=192.168.60.189
[ 11896.972799] source can't be determined: dst=192.168.60.189
[ 11897.972702] source can't be determined: dst=192.168.60.189
[ 11898.602649] source can't be determined: dst=192.168.60.194
[ 11941.628650] source can't be determined: dst=192.168.60.189
[ 11942.628556] source can't be determined: dst=192.168.60.189
[ 11943.628465] source can't be determined: dst=192.168.60.189
[ 11945.298311] source can't be determined: dst=192.168.60.194


-bash-5.2$ ifconfig -a
wm0: flags=0x8843 mtu 1500
capabilities=0x7ff80
capabilities=0x7ff80
capabilities=0x7ff80
enabled=0
ec_capabilities=0x7
ec_enabled=0x2
address: 0c:c4:7a:33:2c:6c
media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT 
full-duplex,flowcontrol,rxpause,txpause)
status: active
inet6 fe80::ec4:7aff:fe33:2c6c%wm0/64 flags 0 scopeid 0x1
inet 192.168.60.238/24 broadcast 192.168.60.255 flags 0
inet 192.168.60.189/24 broadcast 192.168.60.255 flags 0
inet 192.168.60.194/24 broadcast 192.168.60.255 flags 0
wm1: flags=0x8802 mtu 1500
capabilities=0x7ff80
capabilities=0x7ff80
capabilities=0x7ff80
enabled=0
ec_capabilities=0x7
ec_enabled=0x2
address: 0c:c4:7a:33:2c:6d
media: Ethernet autoselect (none)
status: no carrier
lo0: flags=0x8049 mtu 33624
status: active
inet6 ::1/128 flags 0x20
inet6 fe80::1%lo0/64 flags 0 scopeid 0x3
inet 127.0.0.1/8 flags 0


cat /etc/if*
192.168.60.238 netmask 0xff00 media autoselect






Re: EXT MAIL : Re: USB install is slow

2024-03-08 Thread Martin Husemann
On Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 08:18:14PM +, Derrick Lobo wrote:
> Hi Thierry
> 
> Manual untar seems fine no issues at all. This seems more like
> copying the file between usb to the local drive as I see stalls when
> the file is copied over

But you said the time was spent in the download mostly - and I am totally
confused what times you are comparing against which. The sets should be
on the install usb medium, so no download is necessary.

The download speed itself may vary widely and is totaly outside of our
controll.

When you say untarring the sets is fast, is that after copying them
from the USB stick to hard disk or untarring from the USB source directly?

Martin


Re: USB install is slow

2024-03-08 Thread pms-...@outlook.com

Derrick Lobo wrote:

Hi All
I have noticed the USB install taking way too long anyone else noticed it
Based on regular instructions I used the usb installer rawrite32 to 
create a usb install stick
The installs for all netbsd10-rcx have been taking roughly 25 minutes, 
when I do an upgrade from 9.. with version 9.3 and below the upgrade via 
usb used to be until 5 minutes.. is this a bug or am I doing something 
wrong.. and has anyone else noticed this..

Derrick


What kind of CPU do you have?



Re: dmesg error "source can't be determined: dst=x.x.x.x" for aliased address

2024-03-08 Thread Martin Husemann
On Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 03:59:10PM +, Derrick Lobo wrote:
> wm0: flags=0x8843 mtu 1500
[..]
> inet6 fe80::ec4:7aff:fe33:2c6c%wm0/64 flags 0 scopeid 0x1
> inet 192.168.60.238/24 broadcast 192.168.60.255 flags 0
> inet 192.168.60.189/24 broadcast 192.168.60.255 flags 0
> inet 192.168.60.194/24 broadcast 192.168.60.255 flags 0


I have a very similar network setup running RC5 and working just fine.

In my case the first address is added via "ifconfig $if $addr"
and the additional ones via "ifconfig $if inet alias $addr"

Martin