Re: framebuffer console on old ATI

2024-05-06 Thread Michael
Hello,

On Mon, 6 May 2024 23:17:12 +
Riccardo Mottola  wrote:

> X11, which appears to run fine, reports it as:
> [   646.096] (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 16320 kB
> [   646.096] (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 7500
> [   646.096] (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 1.0
> [   646.096] (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
> [   646.096] (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: P7
> [   646.096] (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: 01.00
> 
> 
> Linux has FB console on ever lower spec ATIs, but I have no direct
> comparison with this specific one, I admit.

Radeonfb should Just Work(tm) - it's used mainly on macppc and sparc64
but I'm pretty sure it's been run on at least some little endian hw
before.

have fun
Michael


framebuffer console on old ATI

2024-05-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi,

I notice that on 10.0 (but was the same on 9.x too) my old ThinkPad T30
runs in VGA text.
Is there a specific limitaiton for the embedded videocard? a choice? or
something I can try enabling?

dmesg reports it as:

[ 1.005536] acpivga0 at acpi0 (VID): ACPI Display Adapter
[ 1.005536] acpiout0 at acpivga0 (LCD0, 0x0110): ACPI Display Output
Device
[ 1.005536] acpiout1 at acpivga0 (CRT0, 0x0100): ACPI Display Output
Device
[ 1.005536] acpiout2 at acpivga0 (TV0, 0x0200): ACPI Display Output
Device
[ 1.005536] acpiout3 at acpivga0 (DVI0, 0x0210): ACPI Display Output
Device
[ 1.005536] acpivga0: connected output devices:
[ 1.005536] acpivga0:   0x0110 (acpiout0): LCD Panel, head 0
[ 1.005536] acpivga0:   0x0100 (acpiout1): Ext. Monitor, head 0
[ 1.005536] acpivga0:   0x0200 (acpiout2): TV, head 0
[ 1.005536] acpivga0:   0x0210 (acpiout3): Unknown Output Device, head 0
[ 1.005536] vga0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0: ATI Technologies Radeon
Mobility M7 LW (rev. 0x00)
[ 1.005536] wsdisplay0 at vga0 kbdmux 1: console (80x25, vt100
emulation), using wskbd0
[ 1.005536] drm at vga0 not configured

I suppose the last line is  the reason for FB console not working.

X11, which appears to run fine, reports it as:
[   646.096] (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 16320 kB
[   646.096] (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 7500
[   646.096] (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 1.0
[   646.096] (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
[   646.096] (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: P7
[   646.096] (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: 01.00


Linux has FB console on ever lower spec ATIs, but I have no direct
comparison with this specific one, I admit.

Riccardo


i386 - 10.0 gecko browsers

2024-05-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi,

no firefox and seamonkey as binbary packages for pkgin?

Is there any failure reason? At least seamonkey sure runs on 32bit and
on Linux Firefox does too...

Riccardo


Re: NetBSD i386 missing packages on 10.0 after upgrade - cairo gobject conflict

2024-05-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi,

Havard Eidnes wrote:
> Hmm, I think it's cairo-gobject which needs removing, if I recall
> correctly that functinality and files were integrated into the
> new version of the cairo package:

thanks, you recalled correctly. I removed it and was able to reinstall
windowmaker too. X11 starts up... so far 10.0 looks good on the trusty
T30! WiFi works too...

let me have it compile a little and test and see.

Riccardo


Re: NetBSD 10 and unreliable git

2024-05-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Martin and Aryabhata,

network is probably the issue. I was around this weekend and used
wireless in two different places, the connection was good. I know both
places and used them often with different computers (parent's house,
girlfriend home.. not some hotel or airport).

However, at my home today I launched on both repositories via wired
ethernet and it worked.


Martin Husemann wrote:
> I have never seen that (neither on 10.0 nor on -current). It is very
> hard to tell what causes the errors for you. Two potential reasons
> would be network issues (e.g. a bug in the driver for the network device
> you are using) or the limit of simultaneous open files.

I suppose network issues. Since cloning the same repository and updating
the other - both failed before also with reboots - now worked. I hope
git is deterministic.

Now that I write, I remember having seen this error on one of my old
SparcStations. There, just reuissing the command helped. It was however
on a much smaller repository.

> 
> If you are using /bin/sh (or bash) please tell us the output of "ulimit -a"
> [or for {t}csh: "limit").

sure:

sphere$ ulimit -a
time  (-t seconds)unlimited
file  (-f blocks )unlimited
data  (-d kbytes )   262144
stack (-s kbytes ) 4096
coredump  (-c blocks )unlimited
memory(-m kbytes )  7877324
locked memory (-l kbytes )  2625774
thread(-r threads) 3991
process   (-p processes  ) 1024
nofiles   (-n descriptors) 1024
vmemory   (-v kbytes )unlimited
sbsize(-b bytes  )unlimited


> What network device are you using? Can you show the relevant part of
> /var/run/dmesg.boot? Also the output of ifconfig for the device (sometimes
> checksum offload breaks things).

[ 1.048313] ral0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0: Ralink Technologies
RT3090 802.11b/g/n (rev. 0x00)
[ 1.048313] ral0: interrupting at ioapic0 pin 19
[ 1.048313] ral0: 802.11 address 70:f3:95:e2:36:11
[ 1.048313] ral0: MAC/BBP RT3090 (rev 0x3213), RF RT3020 (MIMO 1T1R)

Ifconfig in a non-connected status says:
ral0: flags=0x8802 mtu 1500
ssid ""
powersave off
address: 70:f3:95:e2:36:11
media: IEEE802.11 autoselect
status: no network

Do I need to connect?

Riccardo


Re: NetBSD i386 missing packages on 10.0 after upgrade - cairo gobject conflict

2024-05-06 Thread Pedro Pinho
cairo and caicairo-gobject are now one single package. You need to remove
these and install the new cairo package.

Eventually, you might need to remove everything depending on cairo, clean
and re-install.

Den mån 6 maj 2024 16:47Aryabhata  skrev:

> Did you also change pkgin repo?
>
> On Mon, 6 May, 2024, 7:54 pm Riccardo Mottola, 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I upgraded two of my classic ThinkPads (i386) from 9.3 to 10.0.
>> Upgrade went apparently smooth. Then I issue pkgin update & upgrade.
>>
>> However, shock... startx fails. windowmaker is missing!
>>
>> I explictely try to install it:
>> sudo pkgin install windowmaker
>> Password:
>> calculating dependencies...done.
>>
>> 1 package to upgrade:
>>   cairo-1.18.0nb1
>>
>> 2 packages to install:
>>   pango-1.52.1 windowmaker-0.96.0nb4
>>
>> 0 to remove, 0 to refresh, 1 to upgrade, 2 to install
>> 0B to download, 4265K of additional disk space will be used
>>
>> proceed ? [Y/n]
>>
>> [1/3] upgrading cairo-1.18.0nb1...
>> [2/3] installing pango-1.52.1...
>> [3/3] installing windowmaker-0.96.0nb4...
>> pkg_install warnings: 0, errors: 6
>> pkg_install error log can be found in /var/db/pkgin/pkg_install-err.log
>>
>> I get a strange cairo conflict:
>>
>>
>> pkg_add: Conflicting PLIST with cairo-gobject-1.16.0nb6:
>> include/cairo/cairo-gobject.h
>> pkg_add: 1 package addition failed
>> ---May 06 14:42:46: [2/3] installing pango-1.52.1...
>> pkg_add: Conflicting PLIST with cairo-gobject-1.16.0nb6:
>> include/cairo/cairo-gobject.h
>> pkg_add: Can't install dependency cairo>=1.18.0
>> pkg_add: Expected dependency cairo>=1.18.0 still missing
>> pkg_add: 1 package addition failed
>>
>>
>> Do I need to uninstall some package that "pking upgrade" didn't catch?
>> or are the packages inconsistent?
>>
>> Riccardo
>>
>


Re: NetBSD i386 missing packages on 10.0 after upgrade - cairo gobject conflict

2024-05-06 Thread Havard Eidnes
> Also if repository is pointing to 10.0 and packages available on repo.
>
> Remove Cairo and install windowmaker

Hmm, I think it's cairo-gobject which needs removing, if I recall
correctly that functinality and files were integrated into the
new version of the cairo package:

>> I get a strange cairo conflict:
>>
>>
>> pkg_add: Conflicting PLIST with cairo-gobject-1.16.0nb6:
>> include/cairo/cairo-gobject.h
>> pkg_add: 1 package addition failed
>> ---May 06 14:42:46: [2/3] installing pango-1.52.1...
>> pkg_add: Conflicting PLIST with cairo-gobject-1.16.0nb6:
>> include/cairo/cairo-gobject.h
>> pkg_add: Can't install dependency cairo>=1.18.0
>> pkg_add: Expected dependency cairo>=1.18.0 still missing
>> pkg_add: 1 package addition failed

Regards,

- Håvard


Re: NetBSD i386 missing packages on 10.0 after upgrade - cairo gobject conflict

2024-05-06 Thread Aryabhata
Also if repository is pointing to 10.0 and packages available on repo.

Remove Cairo and install windowmaker

On Mon, 6 May, 2024, 7:54 pm Riccardo Mottola, 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I upgraded two of my classic ThinkPads (i386) from 9.3 to 10.0.
> Upgrade went apparently smooth. Then I issue pkgin update & upgrade.
>
> However, shock... startx fails. windowmaker is missing!
>
> I explictely try to install it:
> sudo pkgin install windowmaker
> Password:
> calculating dependencies...done.
>
> 1 package to upgrade:
>   cairo-1.18.0nb1
>
> 2 packages to install:
>   pango-1.52.1 windowmaker-0.96.0nb4
>
> 0 to remove, 0 to refresh, 1 to upgrade, 2 to install
> 0B to download, 4265K of additional disk space will be used
>
> proceed ? [Y/n]
>
> [1/3] upgrading cairo-1.18.0nb1...
> [2/3] installing pango-1.52.1...
> [3/3] installing windowmaker-0.96.0nb4...
> pkg_install warnings: 0, errors: 6
> pkg_install error log can be found in /var/db/pkgin/pkg_install-err.log
>
> I get a strange cairo conflict:
>
>
> pkg_add: Conflicting PLIST with cairo-gobject-1.16.0nb6:
> include/cairo/cairo-gobject.h
> pkg_add: 1 package addition failed
> ---May 06 14:42:46: [2/3] installing pango-1.52.1...
> pkg_add: Conflicting PLIST with cairo-gobject-1.16.0nb6:
> include/cairo/cairo-gobject.h
> pkg_add: Can't install dependency cairo>=1.18.0
> pkg_add: Expected dependency cairo>=1.18.0 still missing
> pkg_add: 1 package addition failed
>
>
> Do I need to uninstall some package that "pking upgrade" didn't catch?
> or are the packages inconsistent?
>
> Riccardo
>


Re: NetBSD i386 missing packages on 10.0 after upgrade - cairo gobject conflict

2024-05-06 Thread Aryabhata
Did you also change pkgin repo?

On Mon, 6 May, 2024, 7:54 pm Riccardo Mottola, 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I upgraded two of my classic ThinkPads (i386) from 9.3 to 10.0.
> Upgrade went apparently smooth. Then I issue pkgin update & upgrade.
>
> However, shock... startx fails. windowmaker is missing!
>
> I explictely try to install it:
> sudo pkgin install windowmaker
> Password:
> calculating dependencies...done.
>
> 1 package to upgrade:
>   cairo-1.18.0nb1
>
> 2 packages to install:
>   pango-1.52.1 windowmaker-0.96.0nb4
>
> 0 to remove, 0 to refresh, 1 to upgrade, 2 to install
> 0B to download, 4265K of additional disk space will be used
>
> proceed ? [Y/n]
>
> [1/3] upgrading cairo-1.18.0nb1...
> [2/3] installing pango-1.52.1...
> [3/3] installing windowmaker-0.96.0nb4...
> pkg_install warnings: 0, errors: 6
> pkg_install error log can be found in /var/db/pkgin/pkg_install-err.log
>
> I get a strange cairo conflict:
>
>
> pkg_add: Conflicting PLIST with cairo-gobject-1.16.0nb6:
> include/cairo/cairo-gobject.h
> pkg_add: 1 package addition failed
> ---May 06 14:42:46: [2/3] installing pango-1.52.1...
> pkg_add: Conflicting PLIST with cairo-gobject-1.16.0nb6:
> include/cairo/cairo-gobject.h
> pkg_add: Can't install dependency cairo>=1.18.0
> pkg_add: Expected dependency cairo>=1.18.0 still missing
> pkg_add: 1 package addition failed
>
>
> Do I need to uninstall some package that "pking upgrade" didn't catch?
> or are the packages inconsistent?
>
> Riccardo
>


NetBSD i386 missing packages on 10.0 after upgrade - cairo gobject conflict

2024-05-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi,

I upgraded two of my classic ThinkPads (i386) from 9.3 to 10.0.
Upgrade went apparently smooth. Then I issue pkgin update & upgrade.

However, shock... startx fails. windowmaker is missing!

I explictely try to install it:
sudo pkgin install windowmaker
Password:
calculating dependencies...done.

1 package to upgrade:
  cairo-1.18.0nb1

2 packages to install:
  pango-1.52.1 windowmaker-0.96.0nb4

0 to remove, 0 to refresh, 1 to upgrade, 2 to install
0B to download, 4265K of additional disk space will be used

proceed ? [Y/n]

[1/3] upgrading cairo-1.18.0nb1...
[2/3] installing pango-1.52.1...
[3/3] installing windowmaker-0.96.0nb4...
pkg_install warnings: 0, errors: 6
pkg_install error log can be found in /var/db/pkgin/pkg_install-err.log

I get a strange cairo conflict:


pkg_add: Conflicting PLIST with cairo-gobject-1.16.0nb6:
include/cairo/cairo-gobject.h
pkg_add: 1 package addition failed
---May 06 14:42:46: [2/3] installing pango-1.52.1...
pkg_add: Conflicting PLIST with cairo-gobject-1.16.0nb6:
include/cairo/cairo-gobject.h
pkg_add: Can't install dependency cairo>=1.18.0
pkg_add: Expected dependency cairo>=1.18.0 still missing
pkg_add: 1 package addition failed


Do I need to uninstall some package that "pking upgrade" didn't catch?
or are the packages inconsistent?

Riccardo


Re: NetBSD 10 and unreliable git

2024-05-06 Thread Martin Husemann
On Mon, May 06, 2024 at 12:51:19PM +, Riccardo Mottola wrote:
> I'just doing a git clone or a git pull... so don't blame "me".
> At most git.. or its NetBSD compilation.

I have never seen that (neither on 10.0 nor on -current). It is very
hard to tell what causes the errors for you. Two potential reasons
would be network issues (e.g. a bug in the driver for the network device
you are using) or the limit of simultaneous open files.

If you are using /bin/sh (or bash) please tell us the output of "ulimit -a"
[or for {t}csh: "limit").

What network device are you using? Can you show the relevant part of
/var/run/dmesg.boot? Also the output of ifconfig for the device (sometimes
checksum offload breaks things).

Martin


Re: NetBSD 10 and unreliable git

2024-05-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi,

Lucifer wrote:
> you guys are using too many resources...


I'just doing a git clone or a git pull... so don't blame "me".
At most git.. or its NetBSD compilation.

I am able to perform the same actions on the same repository on slower
or less performing systems with other OSs though.

Riccardo