Aw: Re: Aw: Xorg vs Wayland (and MIR?) - future for NetBSD X ?

[Carsten Kunze]

John Nemeth <jnem...@cue.bc.ca> wrote:

> On Dec 28,  6:36am, Carsten Kunze wrote:
> } already try to copy Linux (+ZFS) just to attract users.  Indeed,
> 
>  ZFS comes from Solaris, not Linux.  If you're going to talk
> smack, at least be accurate.  Also, there is nothing wrong with
> adopting good things from other sources.

If I say "Linux + something" this *maybe* means that this something is not from 
Linux ;-)

Aw: Xorg vs Wayland (and MIR?) - future for NetBSD X ?

[Carsten Kunze]

This will be the time to leave NetBSD and go to OpenBSD.  Or to Linux.  Why not 
using the original when NetBSD would try to copy Linux?  Will systemd on NetBSD 
be the next step?  FreeBSD does already try to copy Linux (+ZFS) just to 
attract users.  Indeed, Slackware is much more UNIX like than FreeBSD.  One of 
the reasons that users prefer NetBSD might be that it is UNIX and not like 
modern Linux.  If this will change I'm glad that there is still OpenBSD.

What is the suggested way to use a C compiler with sanitizers?

[Carsten Kunze]

Hello,

if one wants to use the sanitizer features of the C compiler, what is the 
suggested way?

If I e.g. compile and link with options

-O2  -g -O0 -fno-omit-frame-pointer -fno-optimize-sibling-calls -Wall -Wextra 
-Wsign-compare -Wcast-align -Wcast-qual -Wmissing-prototypes -Wunused-parameter 
-Wunused-function -Wshadow -fno-common -fsanitize=address -fsanitize=undefined 
-fsanitize=float-divide-by-zero -fsanitize=float-cast-overflow

(-O2 is from CFLAGS which should be reset by -O0)

I get something like

ui.c:2017:11: runtime error: member access within misaligned address 
0xbebebebebebebebe for type 'struct filediff', which requires 8 byte alignment
0xbebebebebebebebe: note: pointer points here   
 test 
  

ASAN:SIGSEGV

=   

==1372==ERROR: AddressSanitizer: SEGV on unknown address 0x72d42a8a5000 (pc 
0x004229c5 bp 0x7f7fff49c710 sp 0x7f7fff49c460 T0)
#0 0x4229c4  () 

#1 0x421dd7  () 

#2 0x44b9be  () 

#3 0x42a329  () 

#4 0x4488ad  () 

#5 0x413a90  () 

#6 0x410e02  () 

#7 0x4054ae  () 

#8 0x4044ba  () 



AddressSanitizer can not provide additional info.   

SUMMARY: AddressSanitizer: SEGV ??:0 ?? 

==1372==ABORTING

on errors.  What needs to be configured to make the symbolizer work?  (Binary 
is not stripped.)

Carsten

Re: Suspend to RAM failes

[Carsten Kunze]

co...@sdf.org wrote:

> ... as a really horrible and otherwise transparent hack, you could probably
> detach USB before & reattach (drvctl -r) after.

This did help again, thank you!

Now suspend works.  But it boots when I press the power button in suspended 
state (pressing a keyboard key did nothing).

dmesg now is:

nfiguration mode 1
pci0: i/o space, memory space enabled, rd/line, rd/mult, wr/inv ok
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0: vendor 8086 product 0c04 (rev. 0x06)
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0: vendor 8086 product 0c01 (rev. 0x06)
ppb0: PCI Express capability version 2  x16 @ 
8.0GT/s
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
pci1: i/o space, memory space enabled, rd/line, wr/inv ok
radeon0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0: vendor 1002 product 6606 (rev. 0x00)
i915drmkms0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0: vendor 8086 product 0416 (rev. 0x06)
drm: Memory usable by graphics device = 2048M
drm: Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 2 (21.10.2013).
drm: Driver supports precise vblank timestamp query.
i915drmkms0: interrupting at ioapic0 pin 16 (i915)
intelfb0 at i915drmkms0
i915drmkms0: info: registered panic notifier
intelfb0: framebuffer at 0x80008e5dd000, size 1920x1080, depth 32, stride 
7680
wsdisplay0 at intelfb0 kbdmux 1: console (default, vt100 emulation), using 
wskbd0
wsmux1: connecting to wsdisplay0
hdaudio0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0: HD Audio Controller
hdaudio0: interrupting at ioapic0 pin 16
hdaudio0: timeout leaving reset state
hdaudio0: device driver failed to attach
vendor 8086 product 8c3a (miscellaneous communications, revision 0x04) at pci0 
dev 22 function 0 not configured
puc0 at pci0 dev 22 function 3: Intel 8 Series KT (com)
com2 at puc0 port 0 (16550-compatible): ioaddr 0xf0e0, interrupting at ioapic0 
pin 19
com2: ns16550a, working fifo
wm0 at pci0 dev 25 function 0: I217 LM Ethernet Connection (rev. 0x04)
wm0: interrupting at msi0 vec 0
wm0: PCI-Express bus
wm0: 2048 words FLASH
wm0: Ethernet address f0:1f:af:4e:d5:85
ihphy0 at wm0 phy 2: i217 10/100/1000 media interface, rev. 4
ihphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 
1000baseT-FDX, auto
ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0: vendor 8086 product 8c2d (rev. 0x04)
ehci0: interrupting at ioapic0 pin 16
ehci0: BIOS has given up ownership
ehci0: EHCI version 1.0
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
hdaudio1 at pci0 dev 27 function 0: HD Audio Controller
hdaudio1: interrupting at ioapic0 pin 22
hdafg0 at hdaudio1: vendor 10ec product 0292
hdafg0: DAC00 2ch: Speaker [Built-In], HP Out [Jack]
hdafg0: DAC01 2ch: Speaker [Jack]
hdafg0: 2ch/0ch 32000Hz 44100Hz 48000Hz 88200Hz 96000Hz 192000Hz PCM16 PCM20 
PCM24 AC3
audio0 at hdafg0: full duplex, playback, capture, mmap, independent
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 0: vendor 8086 product 8c10 (rev. 0xd4)
ppb1: PCI Express capability version 2  x1 @ 
5.0GT/s
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
pci2: i/o space, memory space enabled, rd/line, wr/inv ok
ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 2: vendor 8086 product 8c14 (rev. 0xd4)
ppb2: PCI Express capability version 2  x1 @ 
5.0GT/s
ppb2: link is x1 @ 2.5GT/s
pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
pci3: i/o space, memory space enabled, rd/line, wr/inv ok
iwn0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0: vendor 8086 product 088e (rev. 0x24)
iwn0: interrupting at ioapic0 pin 18
iwn0: MIMO 2T2R, AGN, address b4:b6:76:df:7f:00
iwn0: 11a rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps
iwn0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps
iwn0: 11g rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 
36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps
ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 4: vendor 8086 product 8c18 (rev. 0xd4)
ppb3: PCI Express capability version 2  x1 @ 
5.0GT/s
pci4 at ppb3 bus 4
pci4: i/o space, memory space enabled, rd/line, wr/inv ok
ppb4 at pci0 dev 28 function 5: vendor 8086 product 8c1a (rev. 0xd4)
ppb4: PCI Express capability version 2  x1 @ 
5.0GT/s
pci5 at ppb4 bus 5
pci5: i/o space, memory space enabled, rd/line, wr/inv ok
ppb5 at pci0 dev 28 function 6: vendor 8086 product 8c1c (rev. 0xd4)
ppb5: PCI Express capability version 2  x1 @ 
5.0GT/s
pci6 at ppb5 bus 6
pci6: i/o space, memory space enabled, rd/line, wr/inv ok
ppb6 at pci0 dev 28 function 7: vendor 8086 product 8c1e (rev. 0xd4)
ppb6: PCI Express capability version 2  x1 @ 
5.0GT/s
ppb6: link is x1 @ 2.5GT/s
pci7 at ppb6 bus 14
pci7: i/o space, memory space enabled, rd/line, wr/inv ok
sdhc0 at pci7 dev 0 function 0: vendor 1217 product 8520 (rev. 0x01)
sdhc0: interrupting at ioapic0 pin 19
sdhc0: SDHC 4.0, rev 6, SDMA, 5 kHz, HS SDR50 DDR50 SDR104 HS200 1.8V 3.3V, 
re-tuning mode 1, 2048 byte blocks
sdmmc0 at sdhc0 slot 0
ehci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 0: vendor 8086 product 8c26 (rev. 0x04)
ehci1: interrupting at ioapic0 pin 21
ehci1: BIOS has given up ownership
ehci1: EHCI version 1.0
usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0
ichlpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0: vendor 8086 product 8c4f (rev. 0x04)
timecounter: Timecounter "ichlpcib0" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
ichlpcib0: 24-bit timer
tco0 at ichlpcib0: TCO (watchdog) timer configured.
tco0: Min/Max interval 1/367 

Suspend to RAM failes

[Carsten Kunze]

Hello,

sysctl -w hw.acpi.sleep.state=3

failes with

acpi0: entering state S3
Devices without power management support: hdaudio0
acpi0: aborting suspend

Above in dmesg is found:

hdaudio0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0: HD Audio Controller
hdaudio0: interrupting at ioapic0 pin 16
hdaudio0: timeout leaving reset state
hdaudio0: device driver failed to attach

A similar problem was discussed in 
https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2011/12/07/msg009717.html

Is it somehow possible to handle this without compiling the kernel?  E.g. by 
manually remove hdaudio0 or force the suspend somehow?

--Carsten

dmesg:

Copyright (c) 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005,
2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
The NetBSD Foundation, Inc.  All rights reserved.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.

NetBSD 7.99.42 (GENERIC.201611250700Z)
total memory = 8097 MB
avail memory = 7842 MB
cpu_rng: RDRAND
rnd: seeded with 128 bits
timecounter: Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec
Kernelized RAIDframe activated
timecounter: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100
Dell Inc. Latitude E6540 (01)
mainbus0 (root)
ACPI: RSDP 0x000EF980 24 (v02 DELL  )
ACPI: XSDT 0xC8FD3098 B4 (v01 DELL   CBX3 01072009 AMI  
00010013)
ACPI: FACP 0xC8FE4AF0 00010C (v05 DELL   CBX3 01072009 AMI  
00010013)
ACPI: DSDT 0xC8FD31E0 01190D (v02 DELL   CBX3 0014 INTL 
20120711)
ACPI: FACS 0xCA7ED080 40
ACPI: APIC 0xC8FE4C00 72 (v03 DELL   CBX3 01072009 AMI  
00010013)
ACPI: FPDT 0xC8FE4C78 44 (v01 DELL   CBX3 01072009 AMI  
00010013)
ACPI: SLIC 0xC8FE4CC0 000176 (v03 DELL   CBX3 01072009 MSFT 
00010013)
ACPI: LPIT 0xC8FE4E38 5C (v01 DELL   CBX3  AMI. 
0005)
ACPI: SSDT 0xC8FE4E98 000228 (v01 INTEL  sensrhub  INTL 
20120711)
ACPI: SSDT 0xC8FE50C0 000160 (v01 Intel  zpodd1000 INTL 
20120711)
ACPI: SSDT 0xC8FE5220 00051F (v01 PmRef  Cpu0Ist  3000 INTL 
20120711)
ACPI: SSDT 0xC8FE5740 000AD8 (v01 PmRef  CpuPm3000 INTL 
20120711)
ACPI: HPET 0xC8FE6218 38 (v01 DELL   CBX3 01072009 AMI. 
0005)
ACPI: SSDT 0xC8FE6250 0003D2 (v01 SataRe SataTabl 1000 INTL 
20120711)
ACPI: MCFG 0xC8FE6628 3C (v01 DELL   CBX3 01072009 MSFT 
0097)
ACPI: SSDT 0xC8FE6668 001044 (v01 SgRef  SgPeg1000 INTL 
20120711)
ACPI: ASF! 0xC8FE76B0 A5 (v32 INTEL   HCG 0001 TFSM 
000F4240)
ACPI: SSDT 0xC8FE7758 000589 (v01 AMITCG PROC 0001 INTL 
20120711)
ACPI: DMAR 0xC8FE7CE8 B0 (v01 INTEL  HSW  0001 INTL 
0001)
ACPI: SSDT 0xC8FE7D98 00109B (v01 AmdRef AmdTabl  1000 INTL 
20120711)
ACPI: TCPA 0xC8FE8E38 32 (v02 APTIO4 NAPAASF  0001 MSFT 
0113)
ACPI: Executed 1 blocks of module-level executable AML code
ACPI: Executed 1 blocks of module-level executable AML code
ACPI: 9 ACPI AML tables successfully acquired and loaded
ioapic0 at mainbus0 apid 8: pa 0xfec0, version 0x20, 24 pins
cpu0 at mainbus0 apid 0
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4300M CPU @ 2.60GHz, id 0x306c3
cpu1 at mainbus0 apid 2
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4300M CPU @ 2.60GHz, id 0x306c3
cpu2 at mainbus0 apid 1
cpu2: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4300M CPU @ 2.60GHz, id 0x306c3
cpu3 at mainbus0 apid 3
cpu3: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4300M CPU @ 2.60GHz, id 0x306c3
acpi0 at mainbus0: Intel ACPICA 20160930
acpi0: X/RSDT: OemId , AslId 
acpi0: MCFG: segment 0, bus 0-63, address 0xf800
ACPI: Dynamic OEM Table Load:
ACPI: SSDT 0xFE822CC32810 0003D3 (v01 PmRef  Cpu0Cst  3001 INTL 
20120711)
ACPI: Dynamic OEM Table Load:
ACPI: SSDT 0xFE810E7DA810 0005AA (v01 PmRef  ApIst3000 INTL 
20120711)
ACPI: Dynamic OEM Table Load:
ACPI: SSDT 0xFE810E727A50 000119 (v01 PmRef  ApCst3000 INTL 
20120711)
acpi0: SCI interrupting at int 9
timecounter: Timecounter "ACPI-Fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
hpet0 at acpi0: high precision event timer (mem 0xfed0-0xfed00400)
timecounter: Timecounter "hpet0" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 2000
acpiec0 at acpi0 (ECDV, PNP0C09-0)
: io 0x930,0x934
FWHD (INT0800) at acpi0 not configured
LDRC (PNP0C02) at acpi0 not configured
attimer1 at acpi0 (TIMR, PNP0100): io 0x40-0x43,0x50-0x53 irq 0
CWDT (INT3F0D) at acpi0 not configured
RMSC (PNP0C02) at acpi0 not configured
pckbc1 at acpi0 (PS2K, DLLK05BE) (kbd port): io 0x60,0x64 irq 1
pckbc2 at acpi0 (PS2M, DLL05BE) (aux port): irq 12
UAR1 (PNP0501) at acpi0 not configured
LPTE (PNP0401) at acpi0 not configured
ACD0 (INT33CA) at acpi0 not configured
DFUD (INT33D7) at acpi0 not configured
acpivga0 at acpi0 (PEGP): ACPI Display Adapter
acpivga0: connected output devices:
acpivga0:   0x0100: Ext. Monitor, head 0
acpivga0:   0x0400: Unknown Output Device, head 0

Aw: Re: ext2fs mount issue maybe just a temporary problem

[Carsten Kunze]

Swift Griggs  wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, since I also use ext2fs somewhat often, did you 
> create the file system with NetBSD or with Linux? I've noticed a lot more 
> problems when I create the file system under Linux.

I always created them on Linux since I did expect fewer problems then.  
Actually I never had problems beside severe performance issues.  But this may 
now have changed significantly because of disabling the atime update.

But thanks for the tip, I'll create them on NetBSD next time.  Maybe this also 
improves performance.

--Carsten

Unexpected error while trying to mount ext2fs

[Carsten Kunze]

Hello,

I have a USB flash drive with ext2fs as second and third MBR slice (no slice 1 
and 4 exists).  Slice 2 and 3 are mapped to partition sd0e and sd0f.  When I 
try to mount partition sd0e I get an unexpected error:

# disklabel sd0 
# /dev/rsd0d:
type: SCSI
disk: DataTraveler 2.0
label: fictitious
flags: removable
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 32
tracks/cylinder: 255
sectors/cylinder: 8160
cylinders: 7531
total sectors: 61457664
rpm: 3600
interleave: 1
trackskew: 0
cylinderskew: 0
headswitch: 0   # microseconds
track-to-track seek: 0  # microseconds
drivedata: 0 

6 partitions:
#sizeoffset fstype [fsize bsize cpg/sgs]
 d:  61457664 0 unused  0 0# (Cyl.  0 -   7531*)
 e:   9026816  52430848 Linux Ext2  0 0# (Cyl.   6425*-   7531*)
 f:  31457280  20973568 Linux Ext2  0 0# (Cyl.   2570*-   6425*)
disklabel: boot block size 0
disklabel: super block size 0

# mount /dev/sd0e /mnt/usb  
mount: no match for `sd0e': No such process

What does "no match" and "no such process" mean?  It did work when there had 
only been sd0e.  Now sd0f is added "below" (note the offset) sd0e.  Maybe this 
causes issues?

--Carsten

Aw: Re: mount_ext2fs: -o atime: option not supported

[Carsten Kunze]

Eric Haszlakiewicz  wrote:

> The noatime flag looks like it's handled in the ext2fs kernel code, with
> "atime" as the default.  Do you get the same error when you try to pass "-o
> noatime" on the command line?  Perhaps the mount_ext2fs program just needs a
> slight tweak to handle it.

I have already send a second mail to the topic but my mails arive with 
hours...days delay.

I've seen that the kernel seems to handle the option.

What I have tested is

# mount -o noatime /dev/sd0e /mnt

Which gives the error for an unsupported option.

Indeed it looks like just a change to mount_ext2fs(8) should fix it.

--Carsten

Ext2fs and noatime

[Carsten Kunze]

Hello,

mount_ext2fs(8) says that it doesn't support option "noatime":

# mount_ext2fs -o atime
mount_ext2fs: -o atime: option not supported

Unfortunately the manpage of mount_ext2fs(8) doesn't specify which mount 
options are available.

Looking at the code at 
http://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-current/src/sys/ufs/ext2fs/ext2fs_readwrite.c
 shows that options relatime and noatime seems to be processed.  So why does 
the mount tool not support these options?

BTW:  Why is directory src/sys not downloaded with the kernel code when doing

$ export CVSROOT="anon...@anoncvs.netbsd.org:/cvsroot"
$ cd /usr
$ cvs checkout -A -P src

?

--Carsten

mount_ext2fs: -o atime: option not supported

[Carsten Kunze]

Hello,

does

mount_ext2fs: -o atime: option not supported

that access time is never set or always set?

If it is always set, is there any chance to implement option "noatime"?  (Or 
disabling atime update for ext2fs?)

--Carsten

Aw: Re: Use of encfs failed

[carsten . kunze]

Hi,

with encfs on NetBSD 7.99.19 (GENERIC.201506211200Z) I have errors again:

encfs: perfuse_open: setsockopt SO_SNDBUF to 540672 failed: No buffer space 
available
encfs: perfuse_open: setsockopt SO_RCVBUF to 540672 failed: No buffer space 
available
encfs: perfuse_open: setsockopt SO_SNDBUF to 540672 failed: No buffer space 
available
encfs: perfuse_open: setsockopt SO_RCVBUF to 540672 failed: No buffer space 
available
perfused: puffs_mount: cannot open /dev/puffs
perfuse_fs_init: puffs_mount failed: Permission deniedfuse failed.  Common 
problems:
 - fuse kernel module not installed (modprobe fuse)
 - invalid options -- see usage message

--Carsten

Aw: Aw: Re: Use of encfs failed

[carsten . kunze]

 perfused: puffs_mount: cannot open /dev/puffs
 perfuse_fs_init: puffs_mount failed: Permission deniedfuse failed.  Common
 problems:

This needs to be done as root of course. Sorry for the noise.

Use of encfs failed

[carsten . kunze]

Hello,

I tried to use encfs (compiled from https://github.com/vgough/encfs) but it did 
not work for me:

$ encfs /mnt/usb /tmp/usb   

  
The directory /tmp/usb does not exist. Should it be created? (y,n) y
EncFS Password: 
encfs: perfuse_open: setsockopt SO_SNDBUF to 540672 failed: No buffer space 
available
encfs: perfuse_open: setsockopt SO_RCVBUF to 540672 failed: No buffer space 
available
encfs: perfuse_open: setsockopt SO_SNDBUF to 540672 failed: No buffer space 
available
encfs: perfuse_open: setsockopt SO_RCVBUF to 540672 failed: No buffer space 
available
perfuse_init: setrlimit failed: Operation not permitted: Operation not 
permittedfuse failed.  Common problems:
 - fuse kernel module not installed (modprobe fuse)
 - invalid options -- see usage message

Does one have an idea how this could be solved?

(It did work on Linux. My system here is a three weeks old NetBSD-Current 
(amd64) with pkgsrc-current.)

--Carsten

Aw: Re: Aw: Re: No option -p for make?

[carsten . kunze]

chris...@astron.com (Christos Zoulas) wrote:

 The question is what should -p do?

It does output the internally defined macros (like what is defined for e.g. 
${CC}) and e.g. suffix rules (like what is defined for .c.o).  Of course one 
can redefine everything he uses, then these internally definitions don't matter 
but using them keeps the files short and makes it possible to use system 
depending settings (which makes sense for e.g. ${CFLAGS}).  Of course using 
tool internal information doesn't help portability but on debugging make issues 
it can help.

I just searched for the 4.xBSD manual pages--it looks like 4.xBSD didn't 
support -p neither ... That would explain and justify it ... Then sorry for the 
noise!

Carsten

Aw: Re: No option -p for make?

[carsten . kunze]

Dan LaBell dan4l-nos...@verizon.net wrote:

 Because, it's Berkeley not UNIX ;-)

... but BSD started out of UNIX (Edition 6 I think)

 Before, Berkeley and UNIX got together, that's not that, much, that's  
 great
 about UNIX.  NO TCP/IP, and a line editor as the STANDARD editor.  
 Neat-oh,
 so you don't have to enter your scripts into the system with a punch  
 card reader
 is what, I feel most people in software development should think at  
 the time.
 
 Before POSIX, and X/OPEN, etc, UNIX vendors would copy in Bell's  
 Sys Five
 features with their own little nuances, and 'creature features'.

This may be all true.  But having some standard for portability (hey, we are on 
NetBSD!) isn't a bad thing.  Before POSIX there had been the UNIX wars and 
divergence...  It is good to use a UNIX standard to have portability without 
much configuring.

Maybe having option -p for make is not really important but it can be a 
debugging aid.

No option -p for make?

[carsten . kunze]

Hello,

why doesn't the NetBSD make(1)s have a -p option? Is'nt that option suggested 
by posix? (Compare e.g. 
http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/make.html)

Although it doesn't help portability to use this internal information it would 
at least help to check that the internal rules are POSIX.

Carsten

Aw: Re: File system encryption which is compatible to Linux

[carsten . kunze]

 http://pkgsrc.se/filesystems/fuse-encfs for a live system.

The package in pkgsrc-current is unfortunately very outdated (1.2.0 vs 1.7.5) 
and does not compile (at least under NetBSD amd64 7.99.15) :(

Aw: Re: File system encryption which is compatible to Linux

[carsten . kunze]

Julian Suschlik julian.susch...@gmail.com wrote:

 I use tar + openssl enc -aes-256-cbc for backups and
 http://pkgsrc.se/filesystems/fuse-encfs for a live system.

It need to be a live system.  I had found encfs too, but when I read at the 
homepage that it stores number of files and length of filename information as 
clear text I asked if there is something better.  But maybe I should try it.

Thanx,
Carsten

Aw: Re: Re: Request to reconsider removal of groff from base system

[carsten . kunze]

Thor Lancelot Simon t...@panix.com wrote:

 mandoc(1) does not process roff.

Very simplified described it acts somehow like nroff -mandoc ... or troff 
-mandoc 
There it understands a large subset of the nroff/troff language.
(Only a few useres need real nroff/troff for typesetting other documents than 
manpages.)

Carsten

Aw: RE: Re: Re: Request to reconsider removal of groff from base system

[carsten . kunze]

 Again this is an enhancement? Can mandoc handle tbl and pic input?

It can handle tbl input. I'm not shure about pic but there may not be many 
manpages using pic.

 UNIX has had the *roff tool suite for a long time. A text formatter is how
 they
 got support from management to continue work on UNIX. I doubt we would be
 talking about UNIX today if it wasn't for the suite.

This is all true. And no one intends to remove groff. But it should not make a 
difference
if groff is in the base or you need just a simple pkgin install groff to get 
it, so the
situation would not change much from now.

NetBSD 6.1.5: firefox24 crashes

[Carsten Kunze]

Hello,

I have just upgraded 6.1.4 - 6.1.5, now firefox24 immediately crashes at start 
with Memory fault.  This did not happen on 6.1.4.  I have a amd64 system 
(actually qemu-kvm on Linux, but that should not matter).

I did pkgin update and full-upgrade but that did not help.

(Is there any ongoing work on a newer firefox version?  An outdated firefox may 
be one of the biggest security issues ...)

Carsten

Aw: Re: problem with mount_psshfs

[Carsten Kunze]

 What's the full command you use to launch your guest? Is it a a raw
 file or a real partition? Have you enabled tunnels? Are you using
 bridges, tun/tap, etc.

It's a raw file, did not know that partition also would work ;)

I use a bridge.  Don't know about tunnels.

I hav really big problems with perl operating on this sshfs.
(Memory fault and other unexpected internal errors I never
saw before.)
Maybe this has also to do with that.

qemu-kvm\
-m 2048\
-hda /mnt/qemu/nbsd614.qemu\
-netdev bridge,id=hn0\
-device virtio-net-pci,netdev=hn0,id=nic1,mac=52:54:00:12:34:57\
-vga std\
-sdl -no-frame\
-usb -usbdevice mouse\
-name NetBSD\
-alt-grab\
-soundhw all

Aw: Re: Re: problem with mount_psshfs

[Carsten Kunze]

 Have you started qemu as root or standard user?

I start it as root.

 And, just to make sure the problem is not in the bridge, could you
 start qemu with user mode networking and enable redirection (check the
 manual for the -redir argument).

Long time ago I used user mode networking but now I don't get it working.  The 
-redir option seems not to be well documented--maybe it's obsoltete?  (I use 
qemu 1.2.0.)

I think I use Linux to mount a NetBSD filesystem for the time being...

Thank you all...

Aw: Re: problem with mount_psshfs

[Carsten Kunze]

 My guess is that if mount_psshfs is even sort of working, and it's about
 ro vs rw files, then the OP is not having a networking problem.

That makes sense.

What is strange is that cp(1) does not work when the target file is not present 
(in a 700 dir).
It does only work if a writeable file is present.

Unfortunately I can't use it anyway at the moment.  My backup system uses p5-Tk
which seems to cause random memory faults which I saw when testing with 
ktrace(1).

Aw: Re: Aw: Re: problem with mount_psshfs

[Carsten Kunze]

 That does not sound so odd to me.  cp likely has different code paths to
 open
 an existing file for writing vs a new file.
 
 If the directory is 755, or some other mode, did this not happen?

When I copy a file (NetBSD) with 644 perms and owner 1000:0 into a dir (Linux)
with 700 perms and owner 1000:1000 I get:

$ ls -al  
total 36028797018963967
drwx--  2 carsten carsten  60 Aug  7 17:38 ./
drwxrwxrwt  8 rootwheel   180 Aug  7 17:36 ../
-rw-r--r--  1 4294967295  42949672956 Aug  7 17:43 a

This scares me... (the number after total and the senseless owner ids)

When I now change the local file to 400 I get:

$ cp /tmp/a .   
cp: ./a: Operation not permitted

But the file is created *empty* (dir had been empty):

$ ls -la
total 0
drwx--  2 carsten  carsten   60 Aug  7 17:43 ./
drwxrwxrwt  8 root wheel180 Aug  7 17:36 ../
-r  1 carsten  carsten0 Aug  7 17:44 a

If the dir has 755 it is the same.  The problem is the 400 of the source
file.  If the source file is 600 it works.

After some tests also the owner ids are ok.  Not very reliable...

p5-Tk crashes

[Carsten Kunze]

Hello,

I have very often crashes on using p5-Tk.  On error message is Memory fault a 
others is:

7f7ff5340a98 is not a hash at 
/usr/pkg/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.20.0/x86_64-netbsd-thread-multi/Tk/MainWindow.pm
 line 53.
Abort

(The address changes, but it is always MainWindow.pm line 53)

ktrace on the Memory fault crash says:

...
  1429  1 perl CALL  read(4,0x7f7ff4fab000,0x4000)
  1429  1 perl GIO   fd 4 read 1723 bytes
   /*\n * (c) Copyright 1990 1991 Tektronix Inc.\n *   All Rights 
Reserved\n *\n * Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software 
and its\n * docum\
entation for any purpose and without fee is hereby granted,\n * 
provided that the above copyright notice appear in all copies and that\n * both 
that copyright noti\
ce and this permission notice appear in\n * supporting documentation, 
and that the name of Tektronix not be used\n * in advertising or publicity 
pertaining to dist\
ribution of the software\n * without specific, written prior 
permission.\n *\n * Tektronix disclaims all warranties with regard to this 
software, including\n * all\
 implied warranties of merchantability and fitness, in no event shall\n 
* Tektronix be liable for any special, indirect or consequential damages or\n * 
any damages\
 whatsoever resulting from loss of use, data or profits,\n * whether in 
an action of contract, negligence or other tortious action,\n * arising out of 
or in connec\
tion with the use or performance of this\n * software.\n *\n *\n *  
NAME\n *Xcms.txt\n *\n *DESCRIPTION\n * Sample 
Color Name D\
atabase\n *\n */\n\n\nThis device-independent color name database is 
provided just as an example.\nThere are no claims that these color 
specifications are or shoul\
d be bound\nto the corresponding color name.\n\nAs you can see, the 
start of the database is indicated by \XCMS_COLORDB_START\.\nAnything before 
this is assumed \
to be comments.  The \0.1\ indicates the\nversion number of the 
format/syntax used in this file.  The color name is\ndelimited from the color 
specification by on\
e or more tabs.\n\nXCMS_COLORDB_START 0.1\ncms red  
CIEXYZ:0.3811/0.2073/0.0213\ncms green  
CIEXYZ:0.3203/0.6805/0.1430\ncms blue   \
CIEXYZ:0.2483/0.1122/1.2417\nXCMS_COLORDB_END\n
  1429  1 perl RET   read 1723/0x6bb
  1429  1 perl CALL  lseek(4,0,0,1)
  1429  1 perl RET   lseek 1723/0x6bb
  1429  1 perl CALL  close(4)
  1429  1 perl RET   close 0
  1429  1 perl CALL  poll(0x7f7fd280,1,0x)
  1429  1 perl RET   poll 1
  1429  1 perl CALL  writev(3,0x7f7fd350,3)
  1429  1 perl GIO   fd 3 wrote 20 bytes
   U\^A\^E\0 \0\0\0\^E\0CCBlack\0\0\0
  1429  1 perl RET   writev 20/0x14
  1429  1 perl CALL  poll(0x7f7fd260,1,0x)
  1429  1 perl RET   poll 1
  1429  1 perl CALL  read(3,0x7f7ff4f60074,0x1000)
  1429  1 perl GIO   fd 3 read 32 bytes
   \^A\0\^U\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\^?\^?\0\0
  1429  1 perl RET   read 32/0x20
  1429  1 perl CALL  read(3,0x7f7ff4f60074,0x1000)
  1429  1 perl RET   read -1 errno 35 Resource temporarily unavailable
  1429  1 perl CALL  read(3,0x7f7ff4f60074,0x1000)
  1429  1 perl RET   read -1 errno 35 Resource temporarily unavailable
  1429  1 perl PSIG  SIGSEGV SIG_DFL: code=SEGV_MAPERR, addr=0xc, 
trap=6)

File descriptor 3 could be something like /tmp/.X11-unix/X0.

Does anyone has an idea?

--Carsten

Aw: Re: pkgin: mplayer-1.1.1nb1 is not available on the repository

[Carsten Kunze]

  Are not all packages available for all amd64 NetBSD releases? And if
 yes--why did pkgin not know this?
 
 You cannot distribute useful binary package for MPlayer for legal reasons.

I know that from Linux, but had not expected it on NetBSD.

But if that's the reason why does pkgin avail list it? Or do I have do setup 
an alternative server path to be able to install it?

Aw: Re: pkgin: mplayer-1.1.1nb1 is not available on the repository

[Carsten Kunze]

 Did you do a
 
 pkgin up

The system had been installed 3 days ago. I did not made an update, but if I do 
it does not change anything.

 by any chance?  When I do a
 
 pkgin av
 
 it shows that
 
 mplayer-1.1.1nb3  Fast, cross-platform movie player
 
 is available.

Exactly what I am saying. It thinks it is available but it is not (I get the 
same output like you, but if I do the install it is not there.)

Aw: Re: Using USB stick in a qemu NetBSD guest on a Linux host

[Carsten Kunze]

 FYI, remember that disks and partitions within disks are named differently
 in
 NetBSD than in Linux. /dev/sda in Linux is like saying /dev/sd0 in
 NetBSD.
 Maybe that's why you can't see the USB stick inside the NetBSD VM.

I could attach the device with qemu monitor with

usb_add host:VendorID:ProductID

but then mouse and keyboard does not work anymore.
If I use

-usbdevice host:VendorID:ProductID

the device is not recognized ...

Aw: Re: Using USB stick in a qemu NetBSD guest on a Linux host

[Carsten Kunze]

 FYI, remember that disks and partitions within disks are named differently
 in
 NetBSD than in Linux. /dev/sda in Linux is like saying /dev/sd0 in
 NetBSD.
 Maybe that's why you can't see the USB stick inside the NetBSD VM.

The USB device is /dev/sde, there is only one primary partition /dev/sde1. I 
use the option -hdb /dev/sde1. There is nothing in dmesg and usbdevs reports 
only the mouse. What would be the correct option?

  Carsten

Aw: Re: Using USB stick in a qemu NetBSD guest on a Linux host

[Carsten Kunze]

 FYI, remember that disks and partitions within disks are named differently
 in
 NetBSD than in Linux. /dev/sda in Linux is like saying /dev/sd0 in
 NetBSD.
 Maybe that's why you can't see the USB stick inside the NetBSD VM.

Thank you, it has been a problem with a script I use. It works indeed with 
-hdb /dev/sde1.

Using USB stick in a qemu NetBSD guest on a Linux host

[Carsten Kunze]

Hello,

I am using NetBSD as a qemu guest on a Linux host. I'd like to use a USB stick 
and tried e.b. -hdb /dev/sdb or -usbdevice disk::/dev/sdb but nothing 
works. Has anyone done this successfully?

--Carsten